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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 07:41 PM
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This one's for you, Malaise: YAF kicks out Ron Paul (Young Americans for Freedom)



By BYRON TAU | 2/12/11 7:10 PM EST

A prominent conservative activist group has given Ron Paul the boot.

The Young Americans for Freedom has voted the Texas congressman off its national advisory board in the aftermath of his straw poll win at CPAC over his positions on national security issues.
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"It's a sad day in American history when a one-time conservative/libertarian stalwart has fallen more out of touch with America's needs for national security then our current socialist presidential regime," said the group's national director Jordan Marks.

The dispute between Paul and the the group seems to stem from Paul's anti-war activities and the prominence of his supporters at conservative events like CPAC.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49412.html#ixzz1DnLue6AE
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 07:45 PM
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1. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaah hahahahaha
The day is coming when RETHUGS will devour one another on live TV. Get the popcorn!! :rofl:

If Obama is a socialist then Nixon was Fidel Castro.
These fuggers are batshit crazy.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 09:43 PM
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16. but our media will not report it
Edited on Sat Feb-12-11 09:43 PM by rurallib
maybe a brief mention on NPR if they still exist.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 07:51 PM
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2. LOL, is it just me or do all Authoritarians in this country call themselves "Freedom"-something?
America's needs for national security

:eyes:
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 09:33 PM
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14. Hear that all the time from Libertarian friends.
They think people need the "freedom" to be homeless and starve in the streets. Otherwise they would be giving up their "liberties."

I say, "Can you understand that sometimes freedom is a tampon?"

--imm
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 07:52 PM
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3. This food fight will include everything but the kitchen sink
I'm thoroughly looking forward to it.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 07:53 PM
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4. They can't even maintain a consistent ideology
And they call themselves a movement?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 07:58 PM
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5. Read Thomas Franks "The Wreaking Crew" about the YAFFis
they thought Apartheid was the best system ever
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 08:09 PM
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6. It's a sad day in American history when "Young Americans for FREEDOM"
ousts an advocate for more or less unrestricted freedom.

I don't think the young americans are smart enough to get the irony of their actions.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 08:37 PM
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7. YAF was instituted as a CIA front group:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=11614

from:


Clendenin J. Ryan - Baltimore millionaire and CIA funder Ulius S. Amoss, IIS, American Mercury, YAF and Doug Caddy
Posted 18 November 2007 - 09:14 PM

From a previous posting by Paul Rigby:

p.142: "Who, Amoss wondered, might be willing to invest in such a scheme? He found the answer through a complicated chain of contacts, beginning with Mrs. Mary Vaughan King, who runs the Baltimore public relations firm, Counsel Services, of which the colonel is a client. It led to Clendenin Ryan, a somewhat quixotic multi-millionaire, who once served as an assistant to Mayor La Guardia, ran for the New York mayoralty himself on an independent ticket and the governorship of New Jersey, published a semi-political magazine, and sent large sums abroad to break communist-inspired strikes and influence voters in favor of anti-communist candidates for high office."

Amoss ran International Services of Information and worked for Frank Wisner of the CIA. Even Carleton S. Coon worked for Amoss at the OSS as a Major under the Colonel. Coon and Amoss later worked with Robert Emmett Johnson in Baltimore at ISI. So now we have Amoss and Coon linked through Clendenin Ryan right into The Richard Condon Manchurian Candidate crowd like Brig Gen Bonner Fellers who was an ISI patron (Fighting Frank Bollinger), and "...that fascinating young man who wrote about man and God at Yale." (William F. Buckley, Jr. founder of YAF which was funded by Clendenin Ryan) and Ray S. Cline who was John Yerkes Iselin himself in Manchurian Candidate. Cline later took over control of R. E. Johnson when Cline ran WACL and murdered Archbishop Romero.

What was the magazine Clendenin Ryan published? The American Mercury from 1950-1952, the Buckley years.

What other groups did he help to start later in his career, perhaps using his son Clendenin Ryan, Jr., as a go between and contact point with Doug Caddy, his college roommate? The Young Americans for Freedom, started at the Sharon estate of William F. Buckley, Jr.

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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 09:03 PM
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11. Buckley himself was CIA, of course
http://www.nndb.com/people/149/000023080/

He was drafted into the Army in 1944, and upon his discharge in 1946 worked for the Central Intelligence Agency, where three of his siblings have also been employed. Buckley's immediate supervisor at CIA was E. Howard Hunt, who sent him to Mexico City, where he was charged with undermining the Mexican government.

At Yale, Buckley was the star of the debating team, and earned his bachelor's degree in 1950. Upon graduation, Buckley promptly wrote God and Man at Yale, a book criticizing his alma mater for straying from its original, Christian mission. He was an editor at The American Mercury for several years, before his aggravation at the liberal policies of the Eisenhower administration led him to start his conservative magazine, National Review.

National Review quickly found its audience, making Buckley a political force. It was cited as influential by conservative leaders such as Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan. In 1960, Young Americans for Freedom (or YAF, as it was widely known through the 1960s) was founded in a meeting at Buckley's Connecticut estate. During the Watergate scandal, Buckley underwrote his former CIA boss Hunt's legal defense.

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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 08:42 PM
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8. Sounds familiar..
""Rep. Paul is clearly off his meds and must be purged from public office. YAF is starting the process by removing him from our national advisory board. Good riddance and he won't be missed," added Marks."

Maybe he should be drug tested for his fucking retarded ideas?

Corporatists in the Republican and Democratic party seem to share the same playbook.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 08:52 PM
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9. Young American Fascists, you mean.
That's what we called them back in the 60's.
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ReggieVeggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 08:59 PM
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10. anyone who calls Obama a socialist has zero cedibility
of course, politico seems to give him a lot of it
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 09:06 PM
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12. +1
eom
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FreeMarketAnarchist Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 10:37 PM
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21. Interestingly...
I do believe Ron Paul was one of the few politicians that rightly said Obama ISN'T a Socialist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FLCQuuHn9o
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 09:24 PM
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13. someone who claims to be a libertarian and in the same sentence whines about the need for
greater 'national security' isn't a libertarian at all.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 09:37 PM
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15. Most people that call themselves "Libertarians" are not Libertarians at all.
They are Authoritarian Social Dominators who think "freedom" means the freedom for the Strong to exploit the Weak. Most truly consistent libertarians are left-wing Anarchists.
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 09:54 PM
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17. They kicked him out because one of Paul's supporters called Cheney a war criminal
last Thursday at a YAF convention.
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FreeMarketAnarchist Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 09:57 PM
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18. Actually...
CPAC is not the YAF convention. IIRC, YAF boycotted this year because of GOProud, The John Birch Society and Ron Paul supporters being at CPAC. But yes, it was a Ron Pauler who called Cheney a War Criminal and boo'd Rumsfeld when he got the misnamed Defender of the Constitution Award.
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 10:07 PM
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19. You're right, not CPAC. But Cheney spoke at a YAF convention last week
and i think that was the reason YAF booted Paul.
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FreeMarketAnarchist Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 10:11 PM
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20. Oh....
Okay.
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