Seems like we're pretty seriously fucked

[MannyGoldstein]

I spent two hours driving today, listening to the radio. Everything seemed to be about attacking the poor, slashing out-of-control "entitlements ", permanently-high unemployment, and all sorts of fantasy presented as truth. And that was on NPR.

Damn.

[Brickbat]

1. Why don't you just wait and see if it actually happens or not, hmmmm?

You know, a budget is just a proposal, and it's not like it's going to happen, and it's certainly better than what the Republicans might put together, and you should just wait and see if any of it passes at all before you get all jumpy like this.

Ahem.

ETA, because clearly I'm too good: This response was sarcastic; I'm actually very tired of this response to every bad idea Obama comes up with.

[villager]

3. you're right -- once the Repubs get to Obama's budget, it'll be even worse

n/t

[county worker]

9. And some people should get the scales out of their eyes.

[MannyGoldstein]

17. First is was wait to see if Obama proposed it...

I know! Let's wait until after it's passed to do something. After all, only then we'll know if it's for real.

[Brickbat]

27. Exactly! Now you're talkin'!

No sense getting ahead of the game, here.

[dixiegrrrrl]

39. Yeah!! Like the Health Care "Reform" bill.

That's the ticket!

[fascisthunter]

18. after all this time

go ahead, wait

[Dappleganger]

21. So we get to decide if we prefer it with lube or without?

Wow, what a deal!!

:sarcasm:

[MrMickeysMom]

22. Jumpy?

Jumpy?

Bailing out the banking cartels is getting JUMPY? Publicizing debt run up by corporate financial terrorists (bail us out, or else!) is JUMPY?

Treating the American people to "getting a little more in your paycheck" because Congress is once again illegally raiding the Social Security fund IS JUMPY?

If you've got that much phlegm in your throat, I suggest getting it suctioned out and JUMPING INTO REALITY.

WAKE UP!

[Brickbat]

31. My response was sarcasm.

Having had my fill of waiting and seeing advocated by others, I let my annoyance get the better of me.

[MrMickeysMom]

33. Sarcasm well taken, Brickbat...

... Goodness knows we're all tired of it. :hi: (hang in there)

[Forkboy]

43. These are tough days for fans of sarcasm and satire.

:)

[rucky]

24. A dialogue is supposed to be happening now

that isn't. It's all one-sided.

Waiting to see what happens is what screwed us on HCR and the Tax Deal. This is the time to raise a stink - not after they shove more crap down our throats.

[Brickbat]

29. Apparently, I'm too good for my own good.

My response was sarcasm.

[grahamhgreen]

30. Because we are through waiting. This is the same BS line we've been fed for 2 years.

It's the wrong policy, the wrong direction, and not a solution at all.

The solution is to increase taxes on the wealthy and wealthy corporations, end the wars and so forth.

It's so simple, everyone understands it. Even those trying to sell us more of the same.

Oh crap! - Were you being sarcastic??? Oops!

[True_Blue]

41. You had me.

I've seen that response too many times here.

[villager]

2. it's the last run-up of completely untethered, hysterical delusion, before the final collapse

n/t

[Avant Guardian]

4. Move over Hoover

...

[MannyGoldstein]

15. Barack Hoover Obama

Harper's called it just months after Obama's inauguration:

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2009/07/0082562

[grahamhgreen]

34. Amen to that!

[Ramulux]

38. Damn

That article is fucking spot on.

[dixiegrrrrl]

40. Wow...I never knew all this about Hoover

and that there was a version of TARP in the '30s.

Thanks for the link. Fantastic article.

[MannyGoldstein]

42. Amazing, isn't it?

You'd think that someone in the WH would read some history!

[polichick]

5. It doesn't help when Dems tell the same lies about "entitlements" - it's stunning...

...how few Dem guests on msnbc even attempt to challenge the lies.

[county worker]

6. How did we get here from the euphoria of November 2008?

A little over 2 years and I feel like Bush and his gang never left.

[DJ13]

11. We were sold a dream by a skilled salesman

Sadly he is a salesman who works for the same crooks that owned the last guy.

[RKP5637]

20. And tells people what they want to hear to get elected. I just don't

think people are coming out of the woodwork to support him in 2012. That concerns me as I do wonder about the outcome of the 2012 election.

[Fumesucker]

12. Well, it started with Rick Warren giving the invocation at Obama's Inaugural..

And kind of slid down that invisible slippery slope from there.

[RKP5637]

16. Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. The wind is always being tested for

when to move toward and appease the right. I can't recall who was discussing this today, maybe Cenk Uygur, but the end result was the right still doesn't agree with him, they don't vote with his interests and do what they damn well please anyway.

[WingDinger]

26. We got here by being the party in charge of pres, house and senate.

People would like to avoid that just out of general principle, so they gave the repubs the batshit crazy house. This has been conflated by repubs to contain a mandate, that allows them to turn back the clock to whatever time they deem useful. The time they choose, is coincidentally, right before Obama took the oath. They are speaking way too loud about cutting all the old and poor, working class and minorities, women and non-corporate persons. It is getting ripe for an egyptian moment, within their party. They will lose, with spitting at all those constituencies, unless they go fascist. That is what we must watch.

[SammyWinstonJack]

36. Because they never did leave. Same old same old still in charge.

[yourout]

7. Bottom line.....if we dont get out of Iraq and Afganistan in the next 2-3 years and....

raise the tax rate on the rich we are looking at a rapid decline on many fronts.

[Chipper Chat]

8. I was on a 1000-mile trip and have been listening to Rush.

It's unbelievable how he is attacking Obama with the nastiest and over-the-top rhetoric. I guess his mouth-breathers love it though. I finally turned him off but could not find any liberal station. Hannity, however, was everywhere on the dial (Georgia-Tennessee).

[spanone]

10. yea i heard all that shit. the media has accepted and pushed the ss is broke bullshit

[Lint Head]

13. All this while the fascist corporations make record profits quarter to quarter.

[Curmudgeoness]

14. And what is worse, the state and local governments will have to

pick up the pieces. And this will mean tax increases on those levels to compensate for lost federal money. It is this, or we will have to step over old people, families, vets, and every downtrodden group when we walk down the sidewalks.

[MrMickeysMom]

19. Could you hear me screaming all the way from where I was?

The audacity of slashing programs for heating and food and even calling what we pay into as an "entitlement".

How dare we accept bailing out banks who are "too big to fail", which is the most outlandish form of public taking on debt or socialism for the corporate banksters. When, in fact, WE are to big to fail.

We ARE the country... and I am SICK of it being the other way around.

FUCK THIS SHIT.

[RKP5637]

25. Our gov. supports and blesses Corporate Welfare and then blames finances on seniors,

unemployed, the poor and the down and out. This is clearly a fascist nation or damn close to it and the citizens for the most part are too willfully stupid to get what's going on. This place has become one bad dream and it seems to be moving toward a nightmare.

[MrMickeysMom]

32. ... and another thing...

I do NOT care if anyone thinks this is an over-reaction.

In fact, we have been for so long UNDER reacting.

In a very short time, I believe this will come to a thunderous head because we can not afford to keep "taking it up the ass" anymore than the Arab nations have lived with the little dictators who were our little dictators.

[RKP5637]

35. Agree!!! I think a lot of people have been hoping for the best, but I think

that is going to wear out sooner than later. The difference IMO is the Arab nations know they are being fucked, here, many people have their heads in the sand or up their butts.

[GReedDiamond]

46. This is where I kick and rec (if I could)...

...your particular comment.

How could I improve upon what you said?

[nashville_brook]

23. yes, I heard this as well. i was composing my email comments as I drove...

which, probably isn't too safe :evilgrin:

[markpkessinger]

28. NPR is now carrying the right wing's flag, hoping to avoid having its funding cut! n/t

[pa28]

37. Maybe it's a last ditch effort by NPR to preserve funding.

Too late IMO.

They've been bending over backwards for years now to be "fair and balanced". Despite the editorial appeasement it looks like the Republicans are going to push for CPB funding elimination anyway.

Who knows? They might go back to their crusading roots if the need to pander was eliminated.

[QC]

44. This is why I don't really care if the goopers defund NPR.

It's been nothing but Nice Polite Republicans for years now.

[Hello_Kitty]

45. NPR = Nice Polite Republicans

I think that accurately describes the Democratic Party too.