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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 12:04 PM
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Fair Game Director Doug Liman Responds to Judith Miller


Fair Game Director Doug Liman Responds to Judith Miller

“She’s got it wrong.”

By Doug Liman


Editor’s note: Last Thursday, Judith Miller penned a column for The Wall Street Journal in which she accused the new film Fair Game of pushing “untruths” in its telling of the outing of former CIA agent Valerie Plame. Miller described the film, which focuses on the relationship of Plame and husband Joe Wilson, as “brilliantly acted,” but a “gross distortion of a complicated political saga.” She challenges seven of what she calls the film’s “untruths”; among them, claims that Plame played a “key role” in the CIA’s counterproliferation division, charged with gathering evidence on Iraq’s WMD programs, and that Plame was involved in missions to provide safe havens to Iraqi scientists. Miller also takes issue with a subplot in the film in which Plame, played by Naomi Watts, recruits an Iraqi-American woman to visit her scientist brother in Iraq, where is working on the country’s WMD program. CJR approached Fair Game director Doug Liman (Swingers, Mr and Mrs Smith, The Bourne Identity) for comment. He wrote back with this response to Miller’s piece.


Judith Miller demonstrated in her recent WSJ story about my film, Fair Game, the same cavalier attitude towards the facts that led to her departure from The New York Times in disgrace. And we should never forget that Scooter Libby outed Valerie Plame to Miller in June 2003—more than two weeks before Richard Armitage outed Plame to Novak. Somehow Miller neglected to mention that in her op-ed piece. But she also forgot about that before—in her early grand jury testimony—until she was forced to come clean about it in a subsequent grand jury appearance and under oath at Libby’s trial. Miller’s belated testimony helped convict her “source” Libby, but not until she did everything she could, as a forceful proponent of the war in Iraq, to avoid telling the truth to the American public.

And so here we go again.

Judith Miller writes that her supposed anonymous sources told her that Valerie Plame did not play a “key role” in the CIA’s effort to penetrate Iraq’s presumed WMD program. In truth, Valerie Plame was head of operations for the CIA’s Joint Task Force on Iraq (JTFI). My sources: former Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet and U.S. attorney Pat Fitzgerald.

Valerie’s specific actions as head of operations for the JTFI were and still are classified. Valerie Plame, a loyal intelligence officer from a military family, has always honored and continues to honor the secrecy agreement she signed when she joined the Agency more than twenty-five years ago. As filmmakers, we did the best job we could to piece together her activities in covert CIA operations specializing in nuclear counter-proliferation. This is not easy, especially since Valerie was a NOC, a form of deep cover operative with no official ties to the U.S. government. To be drawn into debating what this deep cover operative may or may not have done is to miss the big picture—this was no “glorified secretary” who was outed by the White House. Far from it.

...

Obviously WMDs remain a sore subject for Miller, who wrote many erroneous stories that badly misled the American public about their existence in Iraq in 2003. Fair Game doesn’t much focus on the WMDs, except to recount an episode showing the dangers of politicized intelligence, which is now common wisdom on both sides of the political aisle. Indeed, Fair Game doesn’t even state an opinion about the war itself, however disastrous its consequences are in hindsight. Rather, Fair Game is about the president of the United States lying to the American people, and what happened to the people who challenged him. The wagons were circled around the president of the United States on the trust issue.

...

So although neither Miller nor Armitage are in the film Fair Game, both of them were involved in the whole sorry episode up to their eyeballs. Actually, I would have loved to have included Richard Armitage, Cheney, and others in Fair Game, had Scooter Libby not obstructed the investigation, for which a unanimous jury convicted him on five serious counts with jail sentences.

So was there a conspiracy in the White House to punish Joe Wilson for speaking out? The film leaves that up to the viewer to decide. Pat Fitzgerald did say “there’s a cloud over the Vice-President, a cloud over the White House.” People can go see Fair Game this holiday and decide for themselves who was naughty and who was nice.


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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 12:09 PM
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1. Recommended.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 12:12 PM
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2. K&R! nt
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 12:28 PM
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3. I'd love to go see it, but it's not playing in my area.
:-(
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 12:43 PM
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4. Been waiting for this movie
Naomi Watts is one of my favorite actresses. She'll do Plame justice.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 01:04 PM
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5. miller is a water carrying ego maniac half wit.
her main concern appears to be that she got no mention in the movie.

She is an ugly individual.
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PRETZEL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 02:49 PM
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6. k & r
it will always amaze me that people like Judy still want to feel the need to want any publicity in this.

Yeah, Judy, get you name back out there. People would love to revisit your role in this. This time around, you can't hide.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 03:07 PM
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7. This movie should have had a wider distribution than it got.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 10:58 PM
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18. I think it got a wider distribution than it initially was targeted to have...
Edited on Mon Dec-20-10 10:59 PM by cascadiance
I saw it at the only place in town here in Portland when it first opened up, but it subsequently went to other theaters later. The theater was packed when I saw it.

I also find it perhaps not too coincidental that the week that it expanded in to other theaters was when Leonardo DeCaprio (along with Thom Hartmann) announced publicly their plans to later do a full blown film with DeCaprio in it documenting the JFK assassination based on the book that Hartmann co-authored that really goes in deep to information that hasn't been talked about much about this event.

Perhaps DeCaprio's studio saw how well Fair Game did where it was released and used that to help them go through with announcing DeCaprio's film plans officially at that time. If so, that's a good sign that we can still have films made that can make a difference in the sea of corporate media propaganda that governs America's television and other "news" media landscape.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 03:11 PM
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8. For someone who wasn't even portrayed in the movie
Judith certainly seems to purport to possess a lot of first-hand knowledge about everything. I wonder how the queen of all fucking Iraq would fare under oath about some of her reportage that appeared in the New York Times? But then, being a journalist and stuff, she's probably not at liberty to reveal the identity of the man in the baseball cap, who allegedly pointed at the ground to the places where those weapons of mass destruction had been. A man who was dozens of yards away, to whom Miller never spoke, but whose indisputably valuable actions provided the pretext for so much of what followed, but who has never quite been identified since then.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 03:13 PM
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9. See it if you can
We saw Fair Game at one of the indi theatres here a couple of weeks ago. Catch it on netflix or DVD if you can. It is well worth seeing.

I think it was wise on the film makers' part to just focus on what was happening to Plame and Wilson in their respective roles in a much wider rogue administration playing fast and loose with the truth.

It saddens me we may never know what happened to all of Valerie Plame's contacts in the ME after she was outed.

If the movie is even 1/2 accurate, "Scooter" is an even bigger asshole than he lets on.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 03:31 PM
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10. K&R
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 07:12 PM
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11. Miller is in the film.
She's played by a cockroach that can be seen scuttling accross the floor in one scene. The actress was thought to be a good match, but it wasn't felt that a larger scale appearance was necessary.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 07:44 PM
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14. here she is....I snuck a camera into the theater>>>her typically shy, retiring self:
Edited on Mon Dec-20-10 07:46 PM by Gabi Hayes
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 11:00 PM
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19. What a diva.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 07:14 PM
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12. Link
http://www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/fair_game_director_doug_liman.php

A great movie by the way, though depressing by default.
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PRETZEL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 09:11 AM
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25. Thanks for the link,
I was hoping that the full article would show up,

One thing I find interesting and maybe I'm wrong, but I remember during all this talk about Armitage being the one telling Novak first was the relationship between these two. From what I remember Armitage had no relationship with Novak at all. I found it odd that he would seek him out when he had much more friendlier relationships with others like Novak. That was in stark contrast to the relationship between Novak and Rove, who Novak had used as a source on many occaisons. To me, therein lies the true nature of the conspiracy. Novak knew (and Rove knew) that the Bush Administration had it's cover by having Rove being only a corraborating source for Armitage. If Fitz could have braoched this relationship and been able to corraborate these dots, I think we would have had a completely different outcome.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 07:30 PM
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13. Judith Miller sure does exhibit sociopathic tendencies
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 09:33 PM
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15. It is mindboggling that people like Miller have no compunctions about publishing bald face lies,
and think that no one will find out the truth.

Arrogance....stupidity....an unbelievable combination of the two.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 10:52 PM
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16. And everyone seems to be avoiding that Marc Grossman likely outed Brewster Jennings WAY earlier...
Edited on Mon Dec-20-10 10:53 PM by cascadiance
... than Armitage or Scooter Libby were involved in outing Valerie Plame later.

My guess is that factored in to their being cavalier about outing her then, even though they are trying to cover up Grossman's leaks to Turkish and Israeli contacts about what Brewster Jennings was doing.

Now you can say that it was only Sibel Edmonds that has made this assertion. But she had access to the raw data (at least the Turkish contacts) and subsequently she testified that this happened in a court case later (where she finally didn't get muzzled by State Secrets Privilege). If she really was fabricating that, why doesn't the government take her to court and try her on perjury? Maybe because its true and their just hiding what really went on earlier. The whole Valerie Plame case may be an outgrowth of that original incident. And if that incident were exposed, that could be shown to be a real treasonous conspiracy with capital punishment involved for a number of individuals for leaking WMD info, etc. that Grossman was alleged to have done then that may have ultimately wound up in Pakistan's hands (and subsequently to North Korea, Iran, and/or Al Queda too from there). Valerie Plame incident in my book is likely a proverbial tip of the iceberg. It's probably also why people like David Kelly have wound up dead in a likely coverup of these events too.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 08:15 AM
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24. Hey cascadiance,
I often wonder about Kelley's last communication to Miller. To me, it was haunting. He seemingly didn't know she was with the bad guys.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 10:55 PM
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17. Is Miller a sociopath? She sure behaves like one. K&R n/t
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 07:08 AM
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20. Nope - she's too stupid
Hypocritical, lying sycophant - probably. Sociopath - she doesn't seem to have the human relation smarts to qualify.

“She’s got it wrong.”
When has she NOT got it wrong about some significant piece of news?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 05:59 AM
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27. Maybe people get so tied up in trying to attach themselves to power groups ....
Edited on Wed Dec-22-10 05:59 AM by defendandprotect
that what they're really doing is selling their souls?

When that happens all you're left with is a lying shell --
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yellowwood Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 07:25 AM
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21. She Will Be Remembered
I will always remember her for being the mouthpiece for Chalabi who is, by the way, doing quite well these days. These guys pushed us into a war that has been a disaster for so many people and has cost us our economic stability.
She should hide in her basement and never show her shameful face.
But if she had been in the movie, what actress could do her justice?
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 07:36 AM
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22. As bad as Miller is, it's more that a tad disturbing that anybody would even print her bullshit.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 06:01 AM
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28. Agree ... sad to see there even had to be a response... but there did have to be.....
Edited on Wed Dec-22-10 06:01 AM by defendandprotect
Glad that the response included the FULL record of Miller's history -- !!

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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 08:09 AM
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23. It's a great movie
and all the more impressive because it's based on fact.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 05:58 AM
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26. Valerie Plame was obviously problem for anyone claiming WMD in Iraq .....
Also seems clear that she would have been a huge hindrance

re Bushco's effort to PLANT WMD in Iraq --

There were no Iraq WMD as the UN inspectors repeatedly told us --

and evidently Valerie Plame wasn't going to lie for them --

nor would she have helped cover any PLANTING of WMD ... !!

Wilson was also quite an opponent simply by reason of his comments in NYT

based on FACT!!

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