The mindset of Republicans from the wife of one for 36 years

[HockeyMom]

He watches Fox News and agrees with EVERYTHING they say. You have to understand that there is NO compromise with them. Why? It is because they think everyone should be just like them. There is no room for compromise, or diversity. They are all BUSINESS oriented. If you don't want to start your own business, or work in business, you are a stupid and a lazy individual. The world revolves around business and profits. You want to work in labor, or helping others? You are lazy, stupid, and worthless. Profits mean more than PEOPLE.

My Republican, business/corporate for profit oriented, husband will vote blindly for his party even if it will have negative repercussions in his own family, as in ME. I work in education. My husband has voted for Republicans who are very anti education and non profits. I have told him that he cutting off his nose to spite his face in doing this. What affects MY JOB, will affect HIS finances. He cannot and refuses to see this. His answer to this? I should start MY own business, or work for one. It matters not that I have no desire to do this. SHEEP have to follow the Party Line, even if it affects them NEGATIVELY.

This is the major difference between "them and us". We accept diversity and all aspects of this. We don't think that everyone should be just like us. WE are the ones with the "big tent". We are the ones who put PEOPLE above profits.

Until we as a Party, and people, fully understand their mindset, we are going to LOSE.

[WinkyDink]

1. He? Is lucky.

[polichick]

2. Scary but helpful - thanks for your very insightful post! k&r

[Thunderstruck]

3. I have a brother in law who despite having only worked 3 years out of the 11

I've known him, the last time he worked being 2 years ago (he lives off his wife's income,) was literally screaming at me inside a car last night that HIS taxes are going to pay the WI teachers and they should be showing up for work and not walking out on the children. He lives in Texas, not WI. Teachers unions are prohibited in Texas. He also watches Fox and told me, a 12-year union journeyman, that I "don't know nothing about unions and that union members are lazy deadbeats".

I couldn't get out of that car fast enough.

[Puregonzo1188]

30. Interesting, I have a Republican Aunt who has worked very little her entire life.

Currently she has a daughter who she home schools, but for a good ten years before the daughter was born she didn't work and all of the jobs she did have she quit because she couldn't get along with her co-workers.

Yet, she's all into the Republican pull-yourself-up-by the bootstraps mentality. She says things like "Africa's problem isn't colonialism, its too many social programs, people never learned to work," "I didn't get to read the Great Books I had to go to school for a career," and "all government employees are lazy" (note this is at Thanksgiving where two of her siblings both work for the government, as does my father--and one of the only 3 jobs she had was with the government, which my mom helped find in order to get her out of her parents house).

She has come up with numerous get-rich schemes--from starting a franchise (Huntington Learning Center type thing--no she has no background in education), to a vineyard, to a tobacco plantation. None of them have ever gone anywhere of course.

She also tried to get my grandmother to move to the Cayman Islands she her husband's business could avoid taxes. My grandmother told her no.

[Marnie]

36. My mother was a teacher in Texas all her adult life.

And the TSA was unionized still in the mid 70's or so when she retired. Asfar as I know it was still unionized when I left Texas in 2006.
Maybe Perry has managed to break up that union but was under, I think CIO, but it was under one of the major labor unions, not a civil service union.

[Thunderstruck]

49. Yeah, Marnie, I mispoke and it was too late to edit that comment out

of my post. Funny thing is, I actually knew TX teachers were unionized but had a brain fart when I made that post.

Thank you for your comment.

[proud2BlibKansan]

44. Teachers unions aren't prohibited in Texas. Where did you get that idea?

http://www.tsta.org/

[Thunderstruck]

48. I stand corrected. I mispoke on that point. I went to vet that point and realized,

too late to edit my post, that it's not that teachers are prohibited from unionizing, indeed they are unionized in Texas, it's actually that they cannot legally go on strike.

Thank you for the correction, proud2BlibKansan.

[proud2BlibKansan]

50. You're welcome

Most states ban teachers from striking. That's not at all unusual.

[RainDog]

4. he sounds like a gem...

cough

[Doctor_J]

5. Actually, until we start

actively undermining their ability to broadcast propaganda on every radio station and cable "news" station 24/7, they will hold sway. This is going to get bloody before it's over, unless we just roll over and die.

[abq e streeter]

9. A nervous, apprehensive, +1

[lunatica]

6. There must be something that keeps you with him

I divorced from my Republican husband after 15 years. It's hurt me financially even after another 15 years because I was a stay at home housewife, but not emotionally or psychologically. Please don't think I'm judging. Marriage is definitely between those who are married. I just wanted to tell about mine, and state a kind of admiration for a DUer who hangs in there.

[senseandsensibility]

7. My sympathies. But how does that explain

the government employees and government pensioners who still swallow this FAUX disinformation without any hesitation? I know several like that. They just have NO self awareness and are desperate to be on what they consider the "strong" side.

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. Yes, it is a religion,

and it has articles of faith, why he is cutting his nose and all that.

[Cleita]

10. I could not be married to some one like him so

I have to applaud you for your fortitude. I have turned away men who show some interest in me because of their Republican views. I can't stomach them anymore.

[Sonoman]

15. A while back....

I finally asked this woman out for dinner. We had met some months before and there was definitely a mutual interest.

When I pulled up in front of her house, there was a McCain sign.

I kept on going and simply called her and told her how it was(or, more properly, wasn't).

There is no sense even trying with those people.

Sonoman

[Cleita]

16. McCain, ugh!

Yes, you would be concerned about the bats flying around in that woman's belfry and I don't blame you for not wanting to find out.

[drokhole]

11. I'd say I was surprised, but...

...that's the EXACT SAME shit my mom has to put up with when it comes to my dad - me too when I was younger. My sympathies go out to you, there is entirely no way to get through to those people. Logic completely escapes them. Trust me, every single other member of my family - a brother and two sisters - have tried, but have never made any progress. FOX prides itself in keeping them in a state of drooling arrested development. Add in talk radio, and those vile, baseless chain emails they get from their friends, and they're as good as lost.

[AsahinaKimi]

12. I wonder when Republicans will adapt

the Rules of Acquisition?
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Rules_of_Acquisition

[malmapus]

21. Get out of my head!!

My first thought as well.

[Blue_In_AK]

13. You must be a saint. n/t

[lib2DaBone]

14. Republicans have been allowed to go away unchallenged...

.. they set the agenda and determine the talking points in the media.

The time has come.. this has to stop... America IS NOT Center Right...

We DON'T love Ronnie Raygun, George Will is an ass and David Brooks is delusional.

[MadMaddie]

37. Until we get a BBC type media in this country

and we get more radio share this is an uphill battle.

I want one of our liberal billionaires to purchase a news organziation and make it happen.

[HockeyMom]

17. He is a couple of years away from SS and Medicare

His job was offshored to India TWICE. He makes under $100,000. Years ago, I went to Planned Parenthood for free BC pills when he was out of work, had no money/health insurance. His daughter and son-in-law are teachers also. We even have a LESBIAN daugther.

Why is this man voting Republians and AGAINST his own interests? Turn off Faux News and THINK for yourself!

[U4ikLefty]

18. I used to be a fundie Rethug back in the 80's & your assessment is correct

There is NO talking to most of these freaks.

Hell, I went back to visit the folks last year & pulled out my old "Crusader" comics & my Bircher tracts like "Secular Humanism"...fucking scary stuff!!!

I can't believe I bought that shit, but I was an angry white-boy who had no concept of anyone's world but my own.

Hell, when they were busting my dad's union I voted for Reagan...what the fuck was I thinking?!?

[Initech]

28. Same here - I ditched my church when they became part of the Fux News cult.

And I haven't looked back. There is no reasoning with these people. It's literally one way or the other with them.

[BanzaiBonnie]

29. So what was the turning point for you?

I was never a fundamentalist, but I was ALL Republican fiscally. Reagan was the last Repub I voted for.

It was Rush Limbaugh who changed my mind. I was a faithful listener in the early 90s. I could not stand the Clinton's, but when RL started in on Chelsea, I began to question everything he said. To pick on a child and say the ugly things he did was far beyond the pale.

And when I got more into history and started to piece some things together, I woke up.

[U4ikLefty]

52. I grew up & lived life

and found that injustice, poverty, and social dislocation in the world of the Republican must be explained away be demonization of "the other" & they offer no REAL solutions.

It is easy for an angry young man like I was to be attracted to the Conservative side, because they offer EASY ANSWERS. No need to think deeply if you're a Republican...they have it all mapped out for you, including snappy comebacks. Lazy-man's politics.

I finally turned to the progressive side for good at the time of the first Gulf War. It was then I found myself alone in my objection to that war & was lucky enough to discover Pacifica 90.7 fm and the wonderful people of the real left.

That's when I actually began thinking for myself politically.

[LiberalAndProud]

51. Why did you stop buying it?

What was your one lie too far?

[Matariki]

19. Fox News is the mind-control division of the plutocracy.

would there a way to defeat them.

[Ilsa]

20. I wonder how you manage given the differences in your personalities,

But i also realize that love has no boundaries. Good luck.

[AndyTiedye]

22. How Will Understanding the Mindset of those Brainwashed by the Tee Vee Help Us Win?

Until we as a Party, and people, fully understand their mindset,

"How can anyone live in something so small?"
  Douglas Adams, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

…we are going to LOSE.

So if we do understand it, we at least know why we're losing, but what can we do about it?

[JI7]

23. what are his opinions on issues like abortion rights, gay rights, gun control ?

[JI7]

24. what are his opinions on issues like abortion rights, gay rights, gun control ?

[demigoddess]

25. people like him are all over the place

used to have a neighbor so much like that. Hated that his taxes were helping the 'lazy' but most of his many children were on the dole, collecting much more in tax dollars than he ever paid in taxes. He even broke the rules to collect workers comp and thought it was cute!! no shame whatsoever!!! and broke the homeowners association rules and refused to comply or pay a fine. Threatened my daughter when he thought it was me who turned him in. I daily hope he rots in hell, and soon!!!

[Lydia Leftcoast]

26. One thing I've noticed in online discussions with Republicanites

is that they think we're as lockstep as they are.

They think we all like everything Obama does.

They think we all like everything Al Gore does.

They think we all love George Soros.

They can't believe that we're not as worshipful as they are of GW Bush and Ronald Reagan.

[white_wolf]

41. Clearly

they have never been on DU if they think we all like everything Obama,Gore, or Clintion did/does.

[proud2BlibKansan]

45. I notice that as well. They think everyone is just like THEM.

Our Dem congressman retired last year and his wife ran for his seat. The online comments from the wingnuts were unreal. They also wrote several LTTEs. They all assumed he had told her to run so the seat could stay in the family. I happen to know both the rep and his wife personally and know that it was HER decision to run and he respected her wishes.

But the thought of a woman making a decision without her husband telling her what to do was just beyond our local right wingers.

And it still just blows my mind. I can't even imagine not making a decision on my own and constantly needing my husband to guide my life. That is bizarro world to me.

[Initech]

27. Fox News is the worst thing to happen to America. I hate it so much.

[felinetta]

31. Republican mindset is expressed perfectly in this photo link:

http://www.care2.com/c2c/photos/view/83/651927880/My_favorite_Shrubisms___/bush_sheep.jpg.html

[Evasporque]

leave him...

and he can enjoy his fox news and politics alone....

[Liberal Veteran]

33. Amen. I couldn't stay married to someone who showed me that kind of disrespect.

My husband and I are celebrating our 20th this year (even though we can't legal marry in this state), and I couldn't stay with someone who was a Fox News Zombie.

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[reformist2]

34. That only explains 25% of Republican voters.

The other 75% vote Republican because of social issues like abortion or gay rights, or because they're afraid Obama is a Muslim, or that all democrats are secretly Communists. Usually all three.

[Marnie]

35. I think we are all pretty much in agreemt with that o the basis of

what we have been seeing at least since Reagan. It is nice to have a first person real life confirmation.

I was having my car worked on. Fox on the TV in the waiting room, naturally, and one loud mouth customer trying to engage the rest of us in conversation saying exactly what Fox says and the Republican PR says,talking point by talking point, as though they were his own toughs.

[happysunday]

38. Your husband should read Frank Bailey's book about Sarah Palin - here it is

He will learn something.

Download the pdf:

http://www.myfileupload.net/download.php?file=1544ef14a8705018648113ab99be1b3d

[LLStarks]

39. Conservatives are incapable of being happy for others outside of their close-knit circle. nt

[jillan]

40. Oh Hockey mom, I feel your pain. I have one of those too. Except mine

is retired from the Post Office. Wore Union made clothing. Had the Union come save his ass on more than one occassion, and now enjoys a nice retirement check.

And yet, he is on the side of people like Walker. Brainwashed with hatred from Rush, Beck, Hannity and the rest of the hate mongers.

They are brainwashed and their minds are closed.

Pm me anytime you want to vent - I understand :pals:

[Darth_Kitten]

42. Well, you married him.

Sorry, but I couldn't be with a man with so little regard and respect for me as a human being. :(

[proud2BlibKansan]

43. I have never understood how anyone could stay married to someone like this

I admire your patience.

My hubby is a good liberal. Thank God.

[deaniac21]

46. You'd NEVER find a Democrat like that!

[HockeyMom]

47. My daughters, and son-in-law, are all Dems

We all gang up on Dad when we are together. lol He is far outnumbered in this family, so I guess something good came from raising my two kids. I have to say I have a great relationship with my son-in-law. He is a HS Science Teacher and IM's me regularly when something is happening negatively towards teachers, or Dems, in the news. We sometimes spend hours online talking to each other. My daughter doesn't know how fortunate she is being married to someone who is so on the same page as her.