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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 10:37 PM
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The situation sounds dire in Libya
These are the two most recent posts on the Al Jazeera-Libya live blog

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-east/2011/02/17/live-blog-libya

February 20

1:14am Ahmed, a Benghazi resident, told us: "Right now, the situation is even worse than earlier today. Shooting is going on until now. And at a nearby hospital, at least 150 people have been admitted, those injured and dead. As far as African mercenaries being seen in Benghazi, I have not seen any. But the military is all over the place."

1:03am: Mariam, a doctor speaking from a hospital in Benghazi, Libya tells Al Jazeera: "It's a massacre here. The military is shooting at all the protesters with live bullets, I've seen it happen with my own eyes. The military forces are everywhere, even from the hospital I work, we are not safe. There was an 8-year-old boy who died the other day from a gunshot to the head - what did he do to deserve this?"


My heart goes out to the Libyans fighting for their freedom from the brutal tyrant Gaddafi. They'll be in my constant thoughts until their victory over the tyrant (I hope).

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 10:42 PM
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1. Anybody who doubts a country's military will follow orders
and attack the civilian population needs to keep up with this one.

Military conditioning is intense. They will follow orders. If the orders are to hold back, they will hold back.

If the orders are to kill friends, family, neighbors, and other fellow countrymen, they will kill them.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 10:48 PM
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4. Different countries have different militaries indeed. Poor Libyans.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 11:19 PM
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10. And in this case they also have mercenary troops
which makes it that much easier.

This is according to BBC
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:54 AM
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13. That has been reported on Twitter
but not confirmed by people on the street, who report only a large military presence everywhere.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 02:10 AM
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16. It's been confirmed with film via twitter. Several films of dead African mercenaries n/t
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 10:45 PM
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2. So much chaos made worse when they are shooting children...
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 10:45 PM
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3. Gaddafi trying to score points as keeping his country in check, just kill em all...
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 10:50 PM
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5. Horrifying. I don't know what those people can do. Even if they stop protesting,
there will be retribution. :cry:

So may brave people are taking up the fight all over the world. At times like these I wish we COULD swoop in and just pluck the dictators out and let the people live in freedom and peace.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 11:04 PM
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6. kick
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 11:11 PM
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7. There are snipers in trees. Terrible.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 11:17 PM
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8. and the silence from the rest of the world is deafening.
Where are the heads of state that speak up about this dictator killing his own people?

What has the US said about this? Is oil & power more important than so many lives?
(Yeah, I know...stupid question.)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 11:18 PM
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9. It is, and I am following for it to truly spread to Tripoli
he has no control fo the East, but once it gets to the capital, it is bad nooz.

Also many of the units are mercs from outside.
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 11:21 PM
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11. I read a tweet earlier that Gadaffi was executing some of his senior military
to try and prevent a coup. That was about the time he ordered the military to start shooting civilians. I bet the ones who said no were the ones he killed, to keep the rest in line.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x457955
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lunasun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:04 AM
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12. Bush made Gaddafi a friend of the USA
circa 2006 Condi Rice
The Bush Administration has been quick to stress Libya's comeback as a model that Iran and North Korea should now follow

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1194766,00.html#ixzz1ETLTvvGz
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:01 AM
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15. There isn't a tyrannical oil king that Bush hasn't
made his friend, is there?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:00 AM
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14. Didn't we bomb Gaddafi at one time and even killed one
of his children? Also, wasn't there a suspicion that the Lockerbie airplane bombing came from him? There's a lot of murky back story here that maybe we need to bring to the fore again.
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