Has anyone else had a feeling of foreboding these last few days?

[Drale]

I don't know what it is but since like thursday, I've had this feeling like something really bad is about to happen.

EDIT: I'm not sure if it has something to do with Wisconsin or whats going on elsewhere

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Something bad always does happen

but I don't feel any more doomed than usual.

[Horse with no Name]

2. Not at all

In fact, quite the opposite.
Lead the way, Wisconsin!

[liberal N proud]

3. Something bad is happening

The fascist are taking hard fought rights away from people in Wisconsin only to be followed by several other states.

[grasswire]

4. no

You asked. I don't. Not this week, anyway. I had more foreboding when W. was in office. I think the awakening of labor here in the U.S. is a good thing. Progressives now have an opening to gain some ground with the American people.

[MedleyMisty]

5. Actually the total extreme opposite

This is the most faith and hope I've felt for the human species since November of 2000.

[philly_bob]

38. Me too. Those who control have lost control.

Of course, I can find dark undertones too.

[rucky]

6. The thing about Wisconsin is that the unions organized quickly

and the thugs didn't really have time to react. I'll be in Columbus on Tuesday, and I do not expect it to be a party.

I think you're right to feel this in your gut. It's nice to see everybody here so hopeful, but this isn't going to be easy.

[BuelahWitch]

7. No, I feel better than I have in months n/t

[kentuck]

8. There is a sense of something unknown..

but not necessarily foreboding. We fear the unknown. What might happen?

[HockeyMom]

9. The exact opposite

Wisconsin is showing the country that we the people will not roll over and play dead for our corporate overlords.

March 8th will be Florida's turn. You see, these Republicans, are all alike.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

10. Nope.

But here's hopin'!
:woohoo:



/s

[roxiejules]

11. Yes...

[Curmudgeoness]

12. Your feeling may be like mine. I have yet to see the powers not react

to people's uprisings in a bad way. I hope this is one time that they do not over-react.

[WinkyDink]

21. OF COURSE TPTB will "react", and even harshly. Power rarely departs as a thief in the night.

[babsbunny]

13. I think the People of the World are on their way...........

to making it a better place.

[roamer65]

14. I would worry greatly. The final destination of this unrest will be Riyadh.

The US will not let the House of Saud fall.

In 1973, we were ready to invade to break the Arab oil embargo...so we would do it now.

We will invade to prop them up and that will be the beginnings of World War III.

[WinkyDink]

16. Bwah! The Saudi Royals will never countenance our troops there! This isn't Kuwait.

[roamer65]

19. They will have no choice of the matter.

[WinkyDink]

The 1973 Nixon idea of seizing the oil fields is NOT the same as "propping up" the House of Saud.

Quite the opposite.

[roamer65]

23. We will invade if Saudi Arabia becomes unstable.

Get ready for it. I have no doubt the US military is discussing contingency plans as we speak.

I hate to say it, but it will happen in order to stabilize the oil markets.

[Ikonoklast]

36. They will no longer be there.

We will not let the control of those oil fields fall into the hands of any faction that seems even remotely hostile to the interests of Big Oil.

And in case you forgot, we had a massive presence there in Gulf War I. We built one of the largest, most modern airbases in the world there.

That's what enraged the Islamic Fundamentalists, that Infidels were on Holy Ground.

Riyadh is The Prize, and the Saudis know it.

[Jackpine Radical]

39. If we go in, it will be under circumstances in which the Royals no longer matter.

Their regime is already terribly unstable, and when they begin their irreversible topple, we will find some pretext to go in and secure our oil supply.

[WinkyDink]

15. No. I think it is the Time of the Poor.

[Donnachaidh]

17. full moon doesn't help

Agitation is going on all over. And the crazies comr out during the full moon.

[WinkyDink]

18. And the "crazies" would be?

[InvisibleTouch]

20. Not foreboding, exactly...

...but a sense that many changes are coming this year. Some we may like and some we may not, but we will definitely be in a different place from where we started.

[undeterred]

22. No. When I was on the Capitol Square in Madison yesterday

I was standing next to a lifelong socialist watching thousands of ordinary workers march for their rights and I asked her "did you ever think you would see this day?" And she said "I always knew this day was coming, but I wasn't sure it would be in my lifetime". She works at a tire company in Iowa and has been in the socialist workers movement for over 30 years.

I was a little nervous about violence but there was lots of security yesterday and not a single arrest. Its a very exciting time to be alive.

[bhikkhu]

24. Something in the air, perhaps

as in "the air we breath", which is an expression describing something so common and taken for granted that we don't realize its there, until its gone. "Good government" is one example, where a peaceful society abides by the rule of law, contracts are honored, trust is implicit, and everyone knows pretty much what to expect from everyone else.

To some extent, there is a real problem in the size and complexity of society, which is manageable not just by "good government" but by a heavy strata of corporate activity - both businesses related to individuals and businesses related cooperatively with other businesses. Needless to say, all the necessities, comforts and luxuries we take for granted, as well as the majority of our gainful employments are inextricably tied to both government and corporate continued functioning.

Of course the system is rotten, but there is no other system that can sustain 7 billion people on the planet.

[nadinbrzezinski]

25. Yes, the other shoe and all that

but I am also hopeful... contradictory feelings and all that

[lunatica]

26. I'm sure there will be a backlash which could turn ugly

But so far the violence hasn't gotten the upper hand anywhere in the world.

When the police thugs turned the Egyptian demonstrations violent I was sure the violence would continue, but the demonstrators took control (with the help of the military) and the demonstrations stayed peaceful. So it's possible that peaceful demonstrations will prevail.

but the people in power will fight to keep their power. And they will get ugly about it.

I wonder if they can convince the Teabag Party to get really violent for them. Somehow I don't think Teabaggers will go for getting physically violent though. This seems to be the first time that busing them in has been in vain. They're outnumbered and ignored and made to look foolish. They probably fell into utter confusion that they couldn't out-scream everyone. It's not the same as going to Democratic Town Hall meetings and yelling continuously.

[robdogbucky]

40. Everything is relative and they are still using live ammo in Bahrain and Lybia

Political unrest continues in Middle East•Death toll now almost 600
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Written by Edekyn Ilofuan, with Agency Report
Friday, 18 February 2011

POLITICAL turmoil across the Middle East, which was triggered by protests in Tunisia last December and later in Egypt in January, where both leaders were forced to step down after decades in office, is gaining more momentum by the day.

Close to 600 protesters have lost their lives since the anti-government upheavals gripped the region. Eighteen more people were reported killed, on Thursday, in three countries: four protesters each were killed in Bahrain and Libya, where Colonel Muammar Ghadaffi has been in power since 1969.

About two hundred people were also wounded in Bahrain, when security forces stormed the capital, Manama, reports said. Al-Jazeera reported that 10 protesters were killed on the sixth day of anti-government protests in Yemen.

About 365 people were killed in Egypt during the anti-President Hosni Mubarak protests and the United Nations said over 200 lives were lost in Tunisia, although the opposition said the figure was higher. Yet there were those who committed suicide in acts of protest...

http://www.tribune.com.ng/index.php/news/17739-political-unrest-continues-in-middle-eastdeath-toll-now-almost-600



The Revolution will not be televised but it will be on Twitter

[ThatsMyBarack]

27. Yes....

I think Chicago will have another "snowmegeddon" (sp?) before winter is over for the year. :hide:

[Chorophyll]

28. Nope. Bad things happen all the time but

right now I feel as the Repugs' overreaching (and the terrific response in Wisconsin) has awakened a lot of Americans from their complacency. We were feeling too beaten down to protest, but no more. So actually, I feel like something good is going to happen. :)

[CoffeeCat]

29. You may find this interesting...

The Global Consciousness Project

I find it fascinating, although I admittedly don't understand the entire thing (would love
to hear any/all scientific/nonscientific opinions on this!

http://noosphere.princeton.edu/

It's a random number generator, and supposedly--if people on Earth are all exposed to the
same things (Sept 11 for example), this affects the numbers that are generated. Thus, they
become not so random--and some suggest, proof of a global consciousness. Or, possibly that
shared experiences affect us on some level(s).

I like the page that has the GCP real-timecolored dot, which gives a "color" or read out for the day. Interesting
to note that Sept 11 and the day that Princess Diana died--showed very strong activity.

You can access a link to the colored dot on the left side of the front page.

[RainDog]

30. LOL. ummmm... no.

if you're looking at the thousands who are standing up around the world - this is a beautiful moment in history. It's life-affirming.

unfortunately, the merchants of death are also out there trying to stop the progress of happiness because of their fetish - but that's always the case.

but the last few weeks have been wonderfully affirming of the power of people to change the world - and to fight against the power of greed. No matter what the outcome in these various situations - these moments affirm that people have the power to create positive change - it may take time, but it's possible.

[Skip_In_Boulder]

I have had a bad feeling about things for several years

And justifiable so.

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[Drale]

32. I will once I get my tax refund

[lonestarnot]

33. But the dot is green!

http://viewzone2.com/future/indexx.html

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[sandyj999]

34. I have had the feeling since the November elections, and it's coming true.

[Raine]

35. I always feel that way ... it's just normal for me. nt

[BobbyBoring]

37. I've had a feeling of impending doom

Ever since the SCOTUS installed JR Bush in to the presidency.

As far as now goes, there's a lot of REALLY BAD shit than can and might happen. Our money, repeat, OUR MONEY is one big house of cards. The dollar could collapse at any moment. I'm not saying that in a Glen Beck go out and buy .35 worth of gold for $25.00 at Gold Line sort of way or anything like that. It's just something that could happen and is more likely due to QE2, where we are buying T bonds from Goldman Sachs instead of the Treasury. We want to make sure G/S gets their vig.

It's also likely the government will shut down March 4th. The rethugs will refuse to raise the debt ceiling. That said, we could eventually default on our debt. IF the government shuts down, that means no SS checks, no Medicaid or Medicare, no a whole bunch of stuff we rely on in the course of our lives.

OTOH, I do feel more optimistic than I have in quite some time. People around the world are standing up to the PTB and saying NO MORE! The Egyptians have lit a fire under the asses of the oppress all across the ME. That fire has spread to America. Public service workers in Wisconsin have taken the ball and are running with it. I'm also encouraged that the Tea Party ass fucks could only muster a few to go to Wisconsin and try to disrupt people that are fighting for the survival of all of us.

There are more battles coming up and I plan on starting a few more. We could have a small scale civil war but i would welcome it. We will prevail because justice is on our side~

[snot]

41. I think we're at a critical point, and we need to be doing all we can to make sure

things go the right way.

Because the powers that be are constantly working to shore up and expand their power; and to the extent any vulnerability's been exposed, at least some of them are plenty smart enough to recognize it and respond appropriately and rapidly.

We must think more than one move ahead, and anticipate their countering efforts.