Arizona jury sentences border activist to death

[The Straight Story]

Arizona jury sentences border activist to death

TUCSON - An Arizona jury has sentenced a border activist to death in the 2009 murder of a young girl and her father.

The Pima County Attorney's Office said Tuesday the Tucson jury returned the death penalty verdict against 43-year-old Shawna Forde. She now becomes the third woman on Arizona's death row.

Forde was convicted of first-degree murder and other charges in the May 2009 home invasion in Arivaca, a desert community about 10 miles north of Mexico.

Twenty-nine-year-old Raul Flores and his 9-year-old daughter, Brisenia, were killed in the robbery.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/02/22/20110222arizona-border-activist-forde-death-penalty.html#ixzz1EjHwfOMW

[Joanne98]

1. YAY

[cali]

50. I will never cheer anyone being sentenced to death

I am an anti-dp absolutist.

[27inCali]

64. I wish they could feed her to lions

maybe it's because I'm a dad.

[cali]

72. yeah? well I'm a mom and I'm still anti-dp with no exceptions.

[sadbear]

2. We'll have our own USA brand of martyrs pretty soon

Just let her rot in prison.

[geek tragedy]

49. The martyr argument isn't born out by actual events.

Tim McVeigh's execution did not inspire further terrorist events.

Neither will putting down this person.

[notadmblnd]

3. What can you say about a person like her?

She allowed her sense of self righteousness and hate to kill and destroy lives including her own.

[lonestarnot]

6. Scum comes to mind. Shitbag comes to mind.

[notadmblnd]

10. but even those words aren't strong enough

[lonestarnot]

34. Yes.

[lonestarnot]

4. Eee gads. I knew they would.

[Danger Mouse]

5. I almost never support the death penalty...especially for filth like this...

it only makes her into a martyr for her disgusting cause.

I would have far preferred her to get life in prison. But no question, she's an awful person, less than gutter slime.

[blondeatlast]

27. What you said, DM. for a moment, I succumbed to my all-too human emotion

but I'd really rather she rot in prison and wake up in the arms of the demon that spawned her.

[Jokinomx]

67. I disagree....

She isn't going to be a martyr for anyone. If someone condones murdering a 9 year old girl, they won't have very many followers.

I am generally against the death penalty also... but you know .. I am not losing sleep over this one. No cheers... just sadness for all involved.

peace

[soleiri]

7. boarder activist?

Is that a polite way of saying psychopathic, racist, child killing piece of shit who deserves eternal torment in deepest pit of the helliest hell imaginable?

[Travelman]

16. I guess so

Apparently, murder is the new kind of "activism." I suppose that we can call Klan members who lynched people "cultural activists" rather than just plain old "murderers."

[gratuitous]

17. "Border activist"

Yeah, and Charlie Manson was just a counterculture commune founder.

Still not interested in the death penalty, even for Ms. Forde. Considering the ethnic make-up of the Arizona prison population, perhaps it would be more just for her to spend the rest of her days in close confinement with people she despises so much. She could learn something or resist the lesson and increase the severity of her punishment by her own volition.

[Crabby Appleton]

103. ?

WTF

[aikoaiko]

8. I can live with the sentence.

[OwnedByFerrets]

9. Even for scum like this, I dont believe in the death penalty

[Posteritatis]

11. I can live with this, which is more than I can say for either Forde or her victims. (nt)

[timo]

12. her wiki bio, nuckin fut job deluxe!!!

Biography
Forde has asserted that she had formerly been the promoter of a grunge rock band; she has also worked as a prostitute, petty thief, youth counselor, aircraft factory worker, and as a licensed cosmetologist and esthetician.<6> Forde ran unsuccessfully for a seat on the Everett City Council in 2007.<6><7>
Forde had several run-ins with the law before her arrest for double murder. Court records show that she served time in juvenile lock-ups for repeated convictions involving theft, burglary and prostitution. Forde married four times. In 1989, her future husband sought court protection from Forde claiming that she had physically attacked him and threatened to hurt herself with a knife. In 2007, she was charged with stealing a small container of chocolate milk from an Everett grocery store, which Forde described as a misunderstanding. While running for the Everett City Council, her son was convicted of assaulting the owner of the beauty salon at which she was employed. In January 2008, Forde accused members of a drug cartel of sexually assaulting and shooting her, however, she later suggested the alleged culprits were actually criminal associates of her son. Forde's brother alleges she fabricated the story, and authorities closed the case due to insufficient evidence.<8> In 2007, she first became involved in the anti-illegal immigration activities and later joined the Minutemen Civil Defense Corps. However, she was asked to leave the organization in February 2007 after members described her as being "unstable". Forde later founded a splinter group, the Minutemen American Defense organization, which had 14 members at the time of the attack on the Flores family.<6><9>
On February 14, 2011, Shawna Forde was found guilty of all 8 counts that she was being prosecuted for<10>: two counts of first degree murder for Raul and Brisenia, one count of attempted first degree murder for Brisenia's mother Gina Gonzalez, two counts of aggravated assault and one count each of burglary, armed robbery and aggravated robbery.<11> Forde was convicted of first-degree murder and other charges in the May 2009 home invasion in Arivaca (ayr-uh-VAH'-kuh), a desert community about 10 miles north of Mexico. She is the 3rd female on Arizona death row. <12>
Gunny Bush

[MilesColtrane]

21. The most frightening thing about her "resume":

She had 14 followers.

[timo]

59. too true

who are still out free roaming around!!

[Jmaxfie1]

60. the funny thing is

It says she was basically kicked out of the Minutemen and had to found her own organization. How batshit do you have to be to get kicked out of the minutemen? That's one freakshow.

[Javaman]

93. Sounds like someone who...

was never diagnosed for a mental disorder and may or may not have come from a abusive home.

But, hey, she was still able to buy guns!

[no limit]

13. Amazing how quick DU can go from being against state-sanctioned murder

to actively cheering it on.

[The Straight Story]

18. I have some thoughts on that, but just going to keep my mouth shut

Learned some time ago that keeping to principles can be a damning thing :)

[Bandit]

19. Amazing how some here smear with a very wide brush

I would venture a bet that the very great majority here do not go along with the Death Penalty but because one poster does you smear the whole board with it..

[no limit]

24. One poster? Far more than that

but you are right, I shouldn't have painted with such a wide brush (was not my intention). It's not all of DU, just a fairly significant number of individuals here.

[blondeatlast]

29. +111. nt

[devilgrrl]

20. Eff off

eom

[blondeatlast]

28. I'm still completey anti-DP, but I'll admit to my human frailty. Will you? nt

[blondeatlast]

30. Three-five people are indicative of all of DU? I had no idea we were so unified.

:eyes:

[no limit]

33. Out of the people that actually commented on the sentence a large portion are for it.

you don't see anything wrong with that?

[tkmorris]

77. I'm not for it. So write it on your score card

It's the nature of a thread like this. The ones motivated to post tend to be the ones who want to cheer such a sentence. I don't, and wouldn't have posted at all except for the rather incorrect conclusions you were drawing from those that did.

[madinmaryland]

32. Sickening, isn't it.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

36. DU is not really solid on this or other issues

just vist the Gungeon...

[no limit]

39. You may be right. But at times like this I'm willing to bet a significant amount of people here

conveniently forget where they stand on the issue.

You have every right to believe that a form of punishiment that just about every free and modern country on this planet has long abolished is okay, it is a free country after all. I just don't understand that kind of barbaric thinking.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

55. I am being consistent in my views

I remember a Nightline show over the Milk shooting/verdict. A person being interviewed was calling for the death penalty and when the host pointed out that that person was previously against the death penalty, the instant reply was "Well this one is different"

[blueamy66]

38. I've always supported the death penalty....

especially like things like her.

[no limit]

40. So did Saudi Arabia...

[blueamy66]

68. Good answer.

You are allowed your beliefs and I am allowed mine.

Well, at least, the last time I checked....

[no limit]

85. You are free to have your beliefs. As I am free to point out that Saudi Arabia shares your beliefs.

If you think the state killing people to show killing people makes sense then you have that right. I'm just pointing out that just about every country in the modern free world disagrees with you. While oppressive dictators in countries such as Saudi Arabia share your view.

Take that as you will.

[blueamy66]

86. I never stated that I think that the state killing of people makes

sense.

I stated that the death penalty is a punishment.

I don't care what every other country believes. I live in the US.

If you don't want to pay the ultimate price, don't commit murder.

[no limit]

88. So you don't think the death penalty makes sense but you are for it anyway?

[blueamy66]

96. I stated that I never stated that it makes sense.

You stated that.

I am for it as a punishment...not a deterrent, but a punishment.

If someone killed one of my beloved family members, especially in the way this whack job did, I would scream for their head.

I bet you would too.

[Upton]

41. I support the death penalty..

to quote President Obama, some crimes are "so heinous, so beyond the pale, that the community is justified in expressing the full measure of its outrage by meting out the ultimate punishment"

This case is one of them...

[no limit]

44. Why is death harsher than the rest of your life in a small cell locked up for 23 hours a day?

[Upton]

48. Why do those sentenced to die fight for stays of execution..

if life inside that cell is so much worse than being put to death?

[no limit]

52. Let them spend 15 years in solitary confinement and then ask them again

[Javaman]

91. wrong spot.nt

[blueamy66]

69. Doesn't matter.

The death penalty is much easier on the tax payers though.

Don't murder anyone...you won't have to worry about the death penalty or imprisonment. :-)

[no limit]

83. The death penalty is not easier on the tax payers, its actually more expensive

costing around 2 million dollars for all the legal fights that need to take place.

[blueamy66]

87. I propse we only offer one appeal

and when that is denied, go thru with the lethal injection.

[no limit]

99. Yup, that makes total sense. How many innocent people have been wrongfully killed?

Obviously the right answer is to give them even less options to appeal.

Jesus, I can't beleive this shit is being spewed here.

[Upton]

101. Some cases are no doubters..

the Petit family case and this one come immediately to mind. In these instances, not only should the condemned murderers be limited to one appeal, but it should be fast tracked. The sentence should be carried out as quickly as possible.

[no limit]

102. And who gets to decide what is certain and not certain?

Does the judge or jury that convicted all those innocent people put to death get to decide whether they can appeal or not?

[NYC Liberal]

66. No crime warrants us, as a society, lowering ourselves to

killing people who have already been removed from society and put behind bars.

It's not about them, it's about us.

[cleanhippie]

43. In certain, well-defined circumstances, I strongly approve. This is one of those circumstances.

[lapislzi]

54. It's very difficult, even for a person staunchly against the DP

not to see justice in this sentence. I'll say this, and take it as you will: if anyone "deserves" the death penalty, it is this person. That being said, I could not bring myself to take a life in cold blood.

It's a harsh world. Ethics are thorny.

[fishwax]

73. well, DU is made up of individuals

and there have always been plenty here who favor the death penalty.

[Lyric]

74. Not all of us. Killing people to prove that killing people is wrong is just insanity.

She's a scumbag piece of shit, but killing her won't change that. It won't bring back the dead, or make the pain of their loss any less. Shove her into a prison cell and let her rot there for the rest of her life. Don't make her a martyr to their bigoted, bullshit "cause".

[WinkyDink]

75. Cold-blooded child-murders sometimes have that effect.

[donheld]

79. I did not know DU had an official position on the Death Penalty

Is that in the rules?

[HEyHEY]

80. How dare you point out the hypocrisy of these human merri-go-rounds of ideals!

[Sonoman]

14. Go directly to Hell, *itch.

I hope it is even worse than I was led to believe, as a child in a Southern Baptist church in rural E Texas.

Sonoman

[11 Bravo]

15. Enjoy that needle ride, Shawna!

Maybe they'll use a low dose in order to drag it out. You can spend that extra time pleading with your executioners not to kill you. Just like 9 year old Brisenia Flores.

[cwydro]

46. Wow.

"Enjoy that needle ride..." ???

No matter anyone's feelings on the death penalty, I can't believe a member of DU (or the human race for that matter) would make such a statement.

Good grief.

[11 Bravo]

57. I've got two kids of my own. Both of them were 9 years old once.

If anyone had looked either of them in the eye as they begged for their lives, and then shot them in the face, I would have moved Heaven and Earth to ensure that the sub-human bastards responsible for their death were removed from the population; preferably in the same manner that the innocent angel Brisenia Flores ended her too short life.
Sorry I don't meet your standards for inclusion in the human race.

[cwydro]

58. Lol.

Good luck.

Point missed. Typical of DU these days.

[11 Bravo]

65. LOL in response to a thread regarding the murder of a 9 year old girl ...

tells me all I need to know about you. (Poorly played, although it's always nice when someone unintentionally reveals their true self.)

[blueamy66]

70. What, are you the DU police?

We all have to adhere to your standards and/or beliefs?

[Puregonzo1188]

22. I'm not gloating because I don't support the death penalty. And those who are gleeful at the death

of another, whether an anti-immigrant bigot or a so-called progressive, really make me stomach It's hard to believe such people exist int he 21st century.

[Modern_Matthew]

47. +1

There's nothing "progressive" about the death penalty.

[blueamy66]

71. Who's gleeful?

It's a punishment.

If you murder another human being in a state that has the death penalty,then you run the risk of losing your life as well.

simple enough

[Name removed]

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[left is right]

25. I know you are using the headline as printed

but I didn’t recognize this as the sentencing of Forde. Before I started to read the article, I thought it was about an individual that advocated for aliens crossing the border. I thought perhaps the person had been framed because I couldn’t imagine such an activist killing anyone.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

26. Good. Fuck her.

[Upton]

31. Good...execute her

but first give Forde the same consideration she gave to her 9 year old victim...make her beg for her life.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

35. I am mildly pro death penalty

It is not a popular stance with some, but the human race is better off without certain members. This is one of those we can do without.

My standard is "scientific certainty" coupled with a high level of heinousness. This case qualifies.

[Curmudgeoness]

63. Interesting description of your views. I suppose

than I am also "mildly pro death penalty". I never considered that way, but that says it all for me.

As a civil society, there really are some members of society who we cannot allow to get away with their actions.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

37. A right-wing entity turns around and bites a right-winger in the ass.

Poetic justice, one could call it. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HoistByHisOwnPetard

[Jmaxfie1]

61. Although I don't support the Death Penalty.

There is so much poetic justice to this verdict. Maybe right-wingers will stop and think about the DP now that it is when of their own. Probably not though.

[cleanhippie]

42. Excellent! But what is with the descriptor of "border activist"?

Border terrorist seems more apt.

[Modern_Matthew]

45. Not going to cheer for the death penalty, regardless of the crime. n/t

[cali]

51. I'm with you.

and welcome to DU.

[Agony]

53. Capital punishment is not civilized full stop

[Bake]

56. I don't believe in the DP, but for a childkiller, I'll make an exception.

Bake

[southernyankeebelle]

62. Good riddens to her. She took away a innocent child's life. She deserves to die. Hope it won't

be a long wait.

[Swede]

76. I am against the death penalty,even for this person.

State sanctioned murder is still murder.

[backscatter712]

78. She shot a 9-year-old girl in cold blood. DIE, BITCH!!! n/t

[vercetti2021]

81. HELL YES!!!

Enjoy hell bitch!!! You'll be standing right next to Hitler and Reagan!!!

[ehrnst]

82. I'd rather she spend 40 years in a prison with Latinas, and die miserable and forgotten.

Now she's a martyr.

[blueamy66]

89. I could go with that.

There's alot of Latina gangs in the AZ prisons.

I don't wish for her to be hurt or maimed....just scared to death, just like her little victim.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

95. +1

[Little Star]

84. Death is too easy for scum like her.

[Mad_Dem_X]

90. Good riddence. n/t

[Javaman]

92. killing someone to show killing someone is wrong.

that works how?

[Iggo]

94. I'm always against the death penalty.

Ironically, I'm sure Ms Forde is all for it.

[Desertrose]

97. Horrible horrible crime...still against death penalty.

Somehow doing the same thing to another person that you condemned them for doing, never made any sense to me.

[jpljr77]

98. Great. More death....that'll teach her.

:eyes:

[WCGreen]

100. I am an opponent of the death penalty and so I can not cheer the result...

But the fact that the good people of AZ can determine his guilt is a huge nail in these self appointed vigilantes cause.