Just what is wrong with Unions? people don't like guarenteed safety?

[demtenjeep]

Vacations?

Lunch and breaks?

Regular work days not 14 hour days for 8 hours pay?

Taking care of our own?

[Poboy]

1. Propaganda. It works. The right has full spectrum dominance.

[Whisp]

3. plus the basic stupdity of people

I have a few stories. man o man.

family member worked public service for many years. bitching all the time about union dues, and wife pitches in, yeh, what they ever do for YOU?

now he is retired and collects a very nice pension, one I wish everyone could get. Not rich, but sure the hell not scrambling.

That good union gave them all that. stupid assholes still talk anti-union

[MorningGlow]

2. I wondered that too

Near as I can tell, anti-union folks fixate on corruption of union bosses. If some have been corrupt, they reason, then every union and every member is corrupt. They also latch onto that "freeloader" image, of people sitting around collecting huge salaries while saying it's "not their job" to do whatever it is that needs to be done, or a dozen burly men assigned to change one light bulb, laughing all the way to the bank. Or something.

I don't really get it, myself, but that seems to be the crux of it.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

4. Their Communist beginnings.

Communists essentially start the Union movement here in our country. That wasn't too big an issue until the Red scare of the 40's/50's when everything associated with Communism was declared bad and "un-American".

Lore has it they are the original "Red Necks", named for the red bandanas they wore around their necks while organizing.

[Enrique]

5. the Bible says unions are bad

right next to the part that says segregation is good.

edit: thought I was kidding? nope! (and check out the one about the runaway slave!)

http://www.prca.org/pamphlets/pamphlet_86.html

(...)

These passages, among others, are the Word of God regulating the life of the Christian workingman in the sphere of labor:

- Ephesians 6:5-8: “Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh.”
- Colossians 3:22-25: “Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh.”
- I Timothy 6:1ff.: “Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honor.”
- Titus 2:9ff.: “Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters.”
- Philemon: the run-away slave, Onesimus, is sent back to his master, to serve him again.
- I Peter 2:18ff.: “Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear”; the apostle adds: “not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward.”
- James 5:1-11, where the description of the godly conduct of the worker is, “he doth not resist you.”

[pulledpork]

6. CEO's don't like the competition for capital

When criticized for the avaricious ways, corporate bigwigs and their apologists like to say, "They have the right to make as much money as they want! The free market decides!! It's what we call FREEDOM! You're just envious and lazy!" Etc. Message: It is not right to question the ways and methods of CEO's and how they acquire their fortunes. So shut up and do your drudgery for as little as possible, peasant.

But if you are a worker, and you want a little more money for your labor in YOUR pocket, you are just being greedy, selfish, and corrupt. Message: Always demonize the worker and the means by which he or she secures some capital for THEIR labor, and idolize the CEO at the top. He gave you that job, so you should be lucky he pays you at all! There was a time people were owned or indentured! Be glad you aren't that way now, due to the goodness and generosity of your corporate benefactor. Ingrate.

[Davis_X_Machina]

7. If my job sucks...

...your job has to suck, too. If I spend my working life in a permanent defensive crouch, not knowing from whence the next blow may come, you should too. If I lose my job altogether, you must also. If my 401(k) went down the toilet, you can't have anything to retire on either.

This is America, dammit. That's how we roll.

[endless october]

8. enjoy having a weekend?

thank a union.

some of these people won't be happy until working conditions are back to pre-Sinclair.

[fascisthunter]

9. They don't Like any Org that gives common folks power

anything to divide us and keep us from banding together. They know what they are doing is wrong, that's why they need to destroy all things created for "We the People".

[arbusto_baboso]

10. It's the myth of American Rugged Individualism.

Many Americans WANT to believe the anti-union narrative because it feeds their belief in that myth. Everyone successful obviously got that way SOLELY through their own efforts, and unions threaten that cherished myth, because they challenge the basic assumptions.

[whistler162]

11. Problem with unions is often the officials!

history is always a problem.

[Davis_X_Machina]

12. Same is true in every institution...

...I ever belonged to, that was too big to meet in a phone booth.

Somehow, though, doing away with the Maine state Democratic party, the United States Chess Federation, the New England Province of the Society of Jesus, and the American Philological Association in response never occurred to me...

[Cirque du So-What]

13. When workers at WKRP in Cincinnati were trying to organize

Five-time winner of the Buckeye Newshawk Award and the coveted Silver Sow Award Les Nessman admitted, when pressed on the issue, that he objected to unions because they were vaguely 'Slavic.'