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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 07:30 PM Original message |
23 percent can't pass military exam |
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Kennah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
1. See the movie "Idiocracy" |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. Just lower the bar, problem solved. |
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Bobbieo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 07:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. That is exactly what is going to happen, too. We can't go to war without soldiers. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. and bullet catching does not require a degree |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 08:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. Wellington said... |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 08:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. They will. They lowered the bar to accept people with criminal records, so why wouldn't they lower |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
34. There is no problem. The military is meeting its goals despite this. There are plenty of applicants |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
44. I don't have a link but that is exactly what has happened in the past. |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
3. This is the education system certain segments of our society wanted |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
4. Hubby once said the days of the uneducated fighting wars is over |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 07:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. War is only going to become more technologically driven. |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:20 AM Response to Reply #16 |
47. I'm sorry, but you're wrong. Have you ever talked to a modern-day Marine? |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:27 AM Response to Reply #47 |
53. This is an unfair generalization. n/t |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:40 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Agreed. I was being obtuse. |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 08:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. You can't educate them too much |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. A high percentage of the enlisted force has at least two years of college nowadays |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:08 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Nor are they isolated. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:25 AM Response to Reply #41 |
51. There are way too many ignorant comments in this thread. Those who know nothing about the military |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 01:31 AM Response to Reply #35 |
58. You should see some of the ignorant morons with more education than that |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 07:25 AM Response to Reply #58 |
64. We call them politicians |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
5. Why do people need to be able to read, write or add and subtract to get a job? |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 09:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
31. :( |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
7. This is nothing new. My dad was assigned to give tests |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. yep. nothing to do specifically with today's education system whatsoever. |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
8. I guess this is what happens you put more money and effort |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
50. I guess so... THAN (not then). |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
9. & the same was true 30 & 60 years ago, & the same hand-wringing editorializing. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
11. idiotic & propagandistic article. five minutes thought will explain why. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
12. How well do you need to read to be cannon fodder? n/t |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 07:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. The idea is to make the enemy cannon fodder, not your own troops. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 07:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Combat troops are cannon fodder. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
33. No, they are not, just as the poster who responded to you said. n/t |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
14. "Nearly 40 percent of black students and 30 percent of Hispanics don't pass,.. |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:12 AM Response to Reply #14 |
42. -1 |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
70. The info I posted deserves a negative. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
18. If you need to be in the 31st percentile to pass, then 30% will fail |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:28 AM Response to Reply #18 |
69. Congratulations! |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
22. Oh and I'm sure Arne thinks firing more experienced teachers is the solution to our national |
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revolution breeze (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
23. The test has never been about intelligence |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 08:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I scored well. Recruiter talked me into Advanced Electronics Field. |
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revolution breeze (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 08:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Thank you for your service to our country. |
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cpwm17 (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
26. Test is design to eliminate lower scoring applicants |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
27. It would be very nice to see a gender breakdown of those who fail the test. |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:45 AM Response to Reply #27 |
55. Male educational failure? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 01:27 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Yeah. I hear that a lot. |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 01:40 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Did you ever think it might be because they're lazy? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 01:56 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Uh huh. |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 07:34 AM Response to Reply #55 |
65. Global warming? |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 01:36 AM Response to Reply #27 |
59. Maybe it tried to mirror the population that enlists, 75% male or so? n.t |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 01:58 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. I'm not curious about the relative sample size. I'm curious about the relative failure rate. n/t |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:03 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Ok. I do wonder how many were dropouts. I know I dropped out |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
28. too stupid even for the military?? |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. The idea of the dumb grunt is passe. Most enlistees have some college under their belts. |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 01:31 AM Response to Reply #28 |
57. Not all edumacated like you... |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
29. What an incredibly depressing report this was to hear, on NPR |
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 11:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. uhhhhh.....x squared? |
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Zanzobar (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:20 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. x = x squared? |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:18 AM Response to Reply #29 |
45. Go to Military.com and take the sample test |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:26 AM Response to Reply #45 |
52. I'll do it. Where do I go on the site to find it? |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 08:26 AM Response to Reply #52 |
68. It's the ASV...whatever link on the side |
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Phentex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 07:48 AM Response to Reply #29 |
66. On our news, she said "If 2 x 2 = 4, what is the value of x?" |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 08:09 AM Response to Reply #29 |
67. I prefer this simple math question. What is 2 + 2 x 2 x 2? |
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Zywiec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
30. A larger percentage can't get in because they are fat. n/t |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
32. I tried to fail my entrance exam and the Army still took me. |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
37. My first thought is |
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cemaphonic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Yeah, I noticed that too |
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davidthegnome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
39. A few years ago |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:20 AM Response to Reply #39 |
48. Note well that nuclear technician and public relations |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
43. Wow-- so the people who want to dismantle our schools think the schools suck? |
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Nevernose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
49. Absolutely ridiculous to blame that on a "failed education system" |
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