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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 08:08 AM Original message |
The Selfish Rich Are Killing Retired People |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
1. Get used to this - it's only going to get worse, far worse |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 08:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. It will continue until the day the starving peasants appear at the palace gates |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 09:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Unfortunately, then TPTB and the peasantry were equal, weapons-wise, but are not so, now. |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 09:11 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. what happens when the army join the revolution. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. In some instances, the government does not call out the army because |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. It was that the Aristocracy and the church rigged the system |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 02:01 AM Response to Reply #27 |
52. and the church rigged the system... So they didn't have to pay taxes. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. The church in many parts of Europe including France |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 03:57 AM Response to Reply #27 |
54. Right, Confusious. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 03:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
30. The biggest obstacles to winning over the military are Fox and Big Pharma. |
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Golden Raisin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
36. That's what Blackwater/Xe is for. |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 07:00 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. from Flowers Of The Night |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. consider this. There are 350 m people in america and if only |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Guns? Who said anything about mere GUNS?! Hello, Afghanistan! |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 03:41 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Me, if it gets cold enough. It's -18 up here and our natural gas |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. They have better weapons: predator drones & those microwave projecting crowd control vehicles |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. They have Blackwater/Xe Services on the payroll...(paid for by, um, us!) |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #34 |
64. Those things will do no good to stop an economy from crumbling |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 07:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. Hence my arguably insane position on personal weapons control |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. And when you figure out that holding that attitude is why you need that attitude... |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 12:07 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. What the fuck do taxes have to do with gun control? |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #45 |
58. I am beginning to think you arent really mad. We Americans used to have a dream to have a good famil... |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 12:07 AM Response to Reply #58 |
72. OH FUCKING PLEASE! The Great American Dream is half the problem. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Well, EXCUSE ME. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. We need a lot more than deer rifles to be a "match". nm |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 12:09 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. My point exactly |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 02:11 AM Response to Reply #46 |
53. We need a lot more than deer rifles to be a "match". |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. I don't think he wrong but I have no idea what the response has to do with my post |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 07:12 PM Response to Reply #22 |
42. +1 |
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briteleaf (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 12:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
66. POCKET CHANGE - The only change you can count on. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
2. recommend |
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The Wielding Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
4. They want to dismantle the government and chew on the bones. |
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samplegirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
5. Happy to rec. |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
6. K&R nt |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
7. Disregarding the wealthy and what many consider their "fair share", stopping |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 12:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
65. Obamanaut, you are so right. Close down the military sites |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
8. The rich will kill everyone unless stopped. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 09:02 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. +1 nt |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
9. It wasn't all rich folks who were out buying imported and scab built cars when I was laid off |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 09:07 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Please. You refer to a blip on the financial landscape. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 09:59 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. No, but... |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 10:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. I do - and it was the "Trade Negotiators" that betrade you |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 10:16 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. It makes me sick to see US truck drivers hauling loads of foreign |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. American automakers stuck with making gas guzzlers that ordinary |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 07:39 AM Response to Reply #20 |
55. When did all this happen? Back in the 1960s and 70s? Actually |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Me. And the Unions, not the predatory capitalists, corrupt politicians, |
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tpsbmam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
26. Actually, I purposely bought American-made cars for many, many years. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. But you leave out what goods or services you produce so we can do ... |
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tpsbmam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #35 |
48. I don't provide any goods. That doesn't negate my critique of the cars I |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 08:48 AM Response to Reply #48 |
56. You avoided the question |
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tpsbmam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 11:44 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. I don't provide any service. Here. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Well let me ask you something then |
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badtoworse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #26 |
51. I completely agree about American cars |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 08:57 AM Response to Reply #51 |
57. There is no problem wanting world class quality |
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tpsbmam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 11:46 AM Response to Reply #51 |
60. Nope. Pretty much where I got on the issue. Make equivalent quality or even |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 07:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
38. So you're giving the rich a pass then? |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 07:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
39. So you're giving the rich a pass then? |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
68. Your neighbors were most likely just trying to get the most quality |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. About 10% of those neighbors are unemployed themselves now |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
18. most people don't have pensions, i would rather focus on getting social security to all |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Social Security is the bigger problem, but you must remember that |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. not just small town employees at risk. state, city too. it's a lot of people. |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 04:04 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. how about we ALL have pensions |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #31 |
74. Have you considered becoming unionized and negotiating a pension plan from your employer? |
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radhika (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
25. and the non-rich are sitting back and ... |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
32. K&R- Add to this health insurance companies dropping coverage to the mentally ill and |
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sirthomas66 (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
33. And what are you going to do about it? My wife and I will help bring |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
37. He was "too proud" to ask for help because needing help is the worst sin any |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 07:05 PM Response to Reply #37 |
70. Kick, |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
43. A Big 'Ol K&R! |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
44. Total capitulation to the RW tax agenda is making the RW's wet dream get so much wetter and dreamier |
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Optimistic (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
47. I am telling you |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
67. Here's Mario Cuomo's 1984 speech about the Reaganite "Shining City on the Hill" |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
71. Top NY state income tax bracket is 8.97% |
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