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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 03:44 PM
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75 years later, the 'real' reason for Social Security is slowly coming to light
Edited on Sun Dec-26-10 03:44 PM by Sheepshank
....or not.

It's absolutely dizzying what the Freepers like to assign to a conspiracy.

Taitz’s investigation into the origins of Barack Obama’s Social Security Number, which was originally issued in the State of Connecticut to a man who was born in the late 1890s, includes an affidavit of the facts prepared by former Scotland Yard officer Neil Sankey. There is no record of Obama ever having lived in Connecticut. The original holder of the number is presumed dead. Land dismissed Taitz’s investigation as frivolous and refused to hear the evidence.
Boy, I should think that the court would want that lead pursued. When they originally issued that Social Security number to the fellow born in the 1890's, did they know that Obama would need to use it a few decades later? This trail goes back to FDR and may provide a whole new interpretation about why they created the Social Security system.


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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 03:48 PM
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1. so many mysteries to solve, so little time.
So many batshit insane clues.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 03:52 PM
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2. There were SSNs assigned in the 1890s? FDR was prez back then?
:rofl: :rofl: :spray: :rofl:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 03:55 PM
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4. That's really, really funny.
:rofl: You almost feel sorry for the freepers they're so stupid.
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 03:59 PM
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5. I would, except I feel sorrier that the stupid is part of "us"...
how much lower can the lowest common denominator go? It's mind-boggling. But I do get your point, and it is funny!
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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 04:05 PM
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6. ahhh point of clarification
the guy was born in the 1890's...not necessarily when the number was assigned. Still, the point here is the FDR collusion of preparing a number that Obama will ahve to one day use.

Then there's the whole newspaper birth annoucement too. Gawd the Left is deviously clever years and years in advance!!!!
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 05:00 PM
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13. Ahhhhhh...Collusion! Yeah! That's the ticket!
;)



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egoclothes Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 05:49 PM
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17. Seems lots of us have the same SS number. I had heard of
this a few years back. That said, I have not really looked into the issue (nor this link).



http://www.walletpop.com/2010/08/12/your-social-security-number-may-not-be-unique-to-you/
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 04:05 PM
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9. No, but a 45 yr old in 1935 would have gotten a number.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 05:22 PM
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15. It's possible.
My dad was born in 1896 and acquired a SS # when FDR created the program. With it, he was able to collect SS when he retired and when LBJ created Medicare was able to benefit from that as well.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 03:54 PM
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3. Oh, I have no doubt that it is true!
See, there was a conspiracy to put the first black man in the White House (as president, not a servant) after the Civil War, started by former abolitionists in CT, well known for it's advocacy to take away rights from white men. Harriet Beecher Stowe herself was part of the cadre that cooked it up. She had been thinking about it ever since she wrote "Uncle Tom's Cabin." In anticipation of Social Security, they plotted to have this happen by the 1930's, when they heard from their relatives, the Roosevelts, that there would be such a system in place and young Franklin was designated to do it.

Clever and fiendish...and it was working until now. Curse you, Orly Taitz!!!

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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 04:11 PM
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10. this is great :)
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 04:05 PM
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7. Great comment on social security.
It is an information system. I think better then social security should be social safety nets, and the need to track money earned is not needed.

Basically the tracking part is the problem.

But not having a social safety net is a bigger problem.

If people want to get rid of social security, then it should be done by having elderly retirement not fixed based on 'money earned' and the records of where people worked over life would not need to be stored.

The storing of information can destroy society as much as poverty if used in secret.

And if you don't like some that worked less getting retirement, then go after the rich that do not work.


So you don't solve the problem by getting rid of social security, you first set up state sponsored safety nets for retirees (since people with money have shown they wont do that) then after setting up that, social security would not be needed.

I disagree with information gathering like the supermarket cards, or walmart systems, and store shopping cards.

Some think they can control society by data storage.

Think about it, any college student that shows resistance to marketing could be targeted, just as an example.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 04:05 PM
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8. This sort of reminds me of the person holding a set of
Correspondence supposedly written by John F Kennedy, complete with the envelope that was used to send the writing, and also the Kennedy signature.

Too bad for the owner of it all - the envelope contained a zip code for that section of New York City.

Unfortunately, zip codes had not been in existence until several years past the time of the letter's supposed being sent.

As many have said - the devil is in the details.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 04:25 PM
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11. Taitz? are they actually using Orly Taitz as a reference?????????
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 04:50 PM
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12. FYI
SSN's were based on where the applicant applied for the SSN. If one lived near another state they could easily apply in another state even though they lived in the neighboring state. The nearest SS office might be closer across the border.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 05:20 PM
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14. More to the point,
Social Security does not re-use numbers. So whatever SSN Obama has, it did not originally belong to someone else.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 05:43 PM
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16. Where does this crazy woman come up with her ideas? She should
try writing sifi.
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