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TalkingDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:21 AM Original message |
Tata & MIT energy breakthrough: 1.5 bottles of water, including wastewater, can power a small house |
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plumbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
1. Wow! Going to keep track of this! |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
2. It's about time someone cracked the first law of thermodynamics. |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Care to explain precisely how this defies the first law? |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:36 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. What conversion of matter to energy. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. He's speaking of... |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. I wasn't suggesting that this water is being directly converted to energy. |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:41 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Energy potential at the fusion level, not at the chemical level. |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. So are you suggesting this violates the laws of thermodynamics? |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:36 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. If you could convert all of the matter in that glass... |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. There is NO conversion of matter to energy. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. I wasn't arguing that, either |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #12 |
29. I don't think it's quite that much. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #29 |
40. Roughly correct. 1 gram of antimatter would produce yield equivalent to a 42 kiloton nuclear bomb. |
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Thav (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Possibly a failure of science |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
51. I won't press so hard when erasing anything the next time! |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Considering that... |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #9 |
23. This has been around for a while. |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #23 |
32. it claims to be more efficient than solar panels |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. If I understand it correctly, there's no electrolysis involved |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. . |
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bigmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
57. It actually is electrolysis, as I understand it from his presentation. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 06:36 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. It's different |
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bigmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Frankly, you could be right. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
41. Care to recheck your stats? |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. You are correct... |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. No problem. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Me neither :) |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
3. Through funds from the stimulus package? |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. AMMO! |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
5. Exxon, BP, Conoco, Shell, Chevron will be buying up water |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. no they won't. |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
7. What is artificial cobalt? |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. I think it is an artificial leaf of cobalt and........ |
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Terry in Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
11. Keep in mind, it's not the water |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
13. What's the catch? |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #13 |
36. The catch is that they're not generating power from water. |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Yes, that's right |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
14. I think some of this is misleading. In the video the guy says "fuel" not "power" |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
20. bullshit alert: |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #20 |
30. it does look like whoever wrote the article doesn't understand the technology |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 12:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
48. ah, c'mon...it made us all feel so hopeful! nt |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Nice catch. Whoever wrote that was a very poor marketer/propagandist. |
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Ratty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 01:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
55. How big is the bottle? How long will it power a house for? |
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dkofos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
21. If it cannot be scaled up to industrial scale for sale by the power companies, |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #21 |
34. and don't forget monthly leasing aas well as planned obsolescence |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
25. PLEASE come and turn our swimming pool into a power plant!!! |
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Gold Metal Flake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
26. Start saving your urine, folks! |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Urine explodes. |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 12:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
44. I wondered about that when they said wastewater |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
28. Here's to all those tinkering |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
33. This looks good. I don't see any flaws, like the "Air Car" |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
38. great news... thank for sharing nt |
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toddwv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
43. Sounds great but... |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
45. There isn't that much hydrogen in water.... |
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n2doc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. And nothing is said about the light to H conversion efficiency |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. It doesn't have to run it for a day, just overnight |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
49. Uh, water does not provide the power. Sunlight provides the power. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
50. Pretty cool, but |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
53. Pfft! I'm going to use Brawndo: It's got electrolytes which my generator craves. |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
59. I would really like to see a block diagram of this |
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