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Thunderstruck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:22 PM
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HO-LY SHIT! Look at this tsunami video:
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:26 PM
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1. The person who filmed that certainly is brave.
WOW
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:40 PM
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8. I don't think brave is the right word
Scared shitless would be more appropriate. Imagine how it must have felt, watching the waters continue to rise, wondering if you were high enough, or if the building you were standing on would survive the onslaught.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:32 PM
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2. You know what's even scarier?
If a certain volcano in the Canary Islands collapses into the Atlantic Ocean, the resulting tsunami will create the same horrifying visuals on the American eastern coast - only this time, it'll be 30 miles inland.

Don't get me started on the coastal cities. They could very well be wiped off the face of the earth.

That said, this is truly horrifying footage, and one brave cameraman.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:39 PM
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7. One of the few mega-disasters that could cripple the US
I've seen a few documentaries about the Canary Islands, and how a collapse there would mean doom for the entire East Coast. We're talking about a tsunami possibly hundreds of feet high washing over the entire coast. Imagine the gridlock on the highways as tens of millions of people try to flee inland. We'd be talking about a massive loss of life, something that could make the Sumatra tsunami pale in comparison. And that's just the US - the entire Caribbean, Central America, and parts of South America would be in jeopardy as well.

Then there's the Yellowstone supervolcano. If that goes off, it's another event that could spell the end of the US as we know it.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:22 PM
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26. Yup.
I was really interested in the structures that managed to survive. I want to know why. And how.

As for the extreme loss of life from the Canary Volcano, you better hope it kills us. Try and figure out how you'd house and feed the refugees from just one coastal city, never mind all. Katrina would be a kindergarten lesson.

My sister says she's checked out the possibilities and she thinks her little hilltop in San Diego might be the only place left standing in the world.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 12:03 AM
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61. Wow. Her little hilltop in San Diego
would survive even if, oh, say New Mexico (somewhat farther inland from San Diego the last time I looked at a map) doesn't? Or is she someone who thinks everything not within thirty miles of either coast doesn't actually exist?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 01:19 AM
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66. She had to evacuate during the Witch fire.
If she believes her home will be fine after Yellowstone explodes and the East Coast vanishes, who am I to disagree? I'll be fish food by then.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 01:29 AM
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67. So she does not realize that there is anything else
in the country besides the east and west coasts, with Yellowstone in between? Maybe someone should send her a map.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 01:43 AM
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68. She has 155 IQ. I'm guessing she's seen a map.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 01:45 AM
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70. Then I am guessing you've failed to adequately relay her intent.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 01:58 PM
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118. And she STILL thinks there's nothing in this country
outside of Yellowstone, San Diego, and the east coast?

Walks away, shaking her head at the denseness of some people.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 07:54 AM
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81. You wouldn't hope it would kill anyone. You wouldn't have to.
Refugees would just be spread out over the remaining US and we'd figure it out. And since we're not talking about one city, with majority of the people who are poverty stricken, I'm sure most of the people who survived would be fine. The government hates the poor, not affluent people, remember? It'll work itself out.
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pasto76 Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 01:35 PM
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117. my thought was also about the buildings - "hope they built those to code"
thats just nutty
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 10:18 PM
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54. I don't think there would even be time for gridlock
I couldn't believe how fast the water rose in that video. Those poor people.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 11:13 PM
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60. I saw video of the Japanese tsunami...
...and I was shocked at how high the waters rose. I had NO idea that is how
a tsunami behaved. One minute, the water trickled in, and was an inch deep--less
than five minutes later---houses were submerged and cars were floating by.

If you are standing in the initial trickle, all you can do is run away from the
wave, but is very unlikely that you would survive. The water comes in and engulfs
large areas, without warning--and in a matter of minutes.

I'll see if I can find that video. Someone posted it to their Facebook.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 01:46 AM
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71. If I understood the news correctly, they had a little under 30 minutes warning.
Awful lot of vehicles still sitting in a working area, during a workday when the water arrived...
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 03:23 AM
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76. Was that people in the last half floating and could a person ride a tsunami out like a wave?
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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 10:29 AM
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92. I'd read that the strongest swimmer would still be in jeoapardy.....
not from the water but from all the debris in the water, broken glass, knives, twisted broken sheets of metal, and other sharp objects. Not to mention all the blunt force trauma from large fast moving debris that could damage the relatively frail human body.
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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 10:30 AM
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93. self delete
Edited on Sun Mar-27-11 10:31 AM by Sheepshank
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 10:45 AM
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99. hypothermia would get you in this case
cold water tsunami and you get hypothermia quick, plus the current is fast and would bash you up against things and bash debris up onto you, it is not impossible to survive but the odds are very very low
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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 10:56 AM
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101. Just before the 3:00 mark, the cameraman says there's a person (or people) in the water.
I don't think anyone could survive that.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 11:08 AM
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103. It looked like people -- from the boats, perhaps? Doubt any one survived --
too much huge debris floating around in the water --
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 01:26 PM
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114. monitoring of Canary Islands volcano
Edited on Sun Mar-27-11 01:32 PM by NJCher
A scientist at the Benfield Greg Hazard Research Center at University College in London says there will be a degree of warning beforehand. I do not know if it is being monitored, but if it isn't, it should be.

Also, see this BBC story:

Tidal wave threat 'over-hyped'


Freak wave, BBC

The risk of a landslide in the Canary Islands causing a tidal wave (tsunami) able to devastate America's east coast is vastly overstated.

That is the view of marine geologists studying ancient landslides in the area. In typical Canary Island landslides, chunks of land break off in bits, not in one dramatic plunge, they argue.

This contradicts previous warnings that an Isle of Man-sized chunk of land could fall off the island of La Palma into the sea, causing a mega-tsunami.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/3963563.stm



Cher

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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 02:34 PM
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120. also please see this
http://www.lapalma-tsunami.com/


This page explains how the Canary Island threat is hyped.

Seriously: don't make yourself crazy with fear. Unlikely to happen.

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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:16 PM
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25. Well, then there are the supervolcanos, including Yellowstone...
If Mother Nature is going to unleash, we really can't stop it.... May as well just live for today. :shrug:
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 07:46 PM
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46. No!!! I must live in terror for now and the future!
...and I must insist everyone else on DU do the same!
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 10:12 PM
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52. Don't worry about Yellowstone. It won't blow until December 2012.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 10:47 PM
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57. The "iminami"
AKA the "purification" wave. Wiki: This could then potentially generate a giant wave which they termed a "megatsunami" around 650–900 m high in the region of the islands. The wave would radiate out across the Atlantic and inundate the eastern seaboard of North America including the American, the Caribbean and northern coasts of South America some six to eight hours later. They estimate that the tsunami will have waves possibly 1,000 ft or more high causing massive devastation along the coastlines.

:wow:
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 12:04 AM
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62. Very glad I live at
7,000 feet.
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 02:53 AM
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75. Or a violent earthquake off the east coast causing
the continental shelf to have a massive underwater landslide do the same.
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trud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 07:13 AM
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78. we're already toast here in the East Coast
from global warning sea level increases. Just wait a few decades.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 07:50 AM
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80. My husband and I were just talking about this in the car yesterday.
VERY SCARY STUFF! :scared:
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onlyadream Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 09:49 AM
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89. From what I read, that is BS
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 11:28 AM
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105. I hope they're right
Granted, all tsunamis lose a certain amount of momentum over distance, but even if a tsunami the size of the one that just hit Sendai were to strike New York or Boston as a result of La Palma, that would be bad enough all by itself.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 12:17 PM
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110. My niece, her fiance, and his family all live on the east coast of FL.
I often think about that Canary Island volcano and the tsunami risk, and then I realize that there isn't a damned thing I can do. They live there and aren't moving because of something that probably won't happen in their lifetimes.

But yeah, it would destroy this country to lose the entire eastern seaboard.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 05:57 PM
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124. Even in a worst-case scenario...
...I think your family down in FL wouldn't be at as much risk as the folks in Newfoundland or New England. There would be some risk and probably some form of tsunami that far south, but it could be a lot worse.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:35 PM
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3. Then all that water had to go back out again. whew, how frightening
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:51 PM
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13. I was just wondering if there were any videos of the tsunmai receeding.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:01 PM
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16. One of the replies in OP's link has another vid that has it starting to slowly recede
at the end. It goes out much slower than it came in.
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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 12:43 AM
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65. I read that the land had subsided by around 3 feet-it never went out again in the lower lying places
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:35 PM
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4. I got the feeling that the cameraman didn't want to watch what was happening
behind him, and I don't blame him. Watching you entire city being washed away would be a bit too much to take in.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:35 PM
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5. That was deeply frightening to watch. Even remotely imagining that I was...
...witnessing it as the cameraman did- I couldn't think. Where do you go if the building you're on starts to break up? What if you see a giant (whatever) heading right for the building you're standing on?

I just...cannot imagine what had to be going to the mind of the man who held that camera and kept it rolling.

PB
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:38 PM
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6. Horrendous to watch. Agreed and rec'd n/t
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GKirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:41 PM
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9. That was awful scary
thank you for posting.

Thank goodness that Japan has such a good tsunami warning system or their death toll would have been worse than the tsunami of 12-26-2004
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:42 PM
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10. Here's another one, shot by someone in just the right spot
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:54 PM
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14. Now for your moment of Zen...
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GKirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:06 PM
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21. The article mentions...
"But keep watching—the sea goes Godzilla and destroys everything."

And this video shows the real deal:
(I will caution there is humor in this tsunami video)

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/1399371/46f16ecb/oorzaak_tsunami_bekend.html
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 10:26 AM
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91. That was incredible
Can't imagine what it was like watching it in person.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 02:51 PM
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122. The noise must've been deafening
All those cars banging into each other, the glass smashing, the squeal of nails coming out of wood, the creaks and groans of failing buildings, and the water that just kept coming and coming.

Then when it all receded, that feeling of "Oh shit, what do we do now?" because so little was left standing and all of it was waterlogged and filthy.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 04:12 PM
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123. Its amazing that he kept filming
He must have been so overwhelmed, not to mention uncertain if he would even survive.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 08:02 PM
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125. The whole crowd stayed calm, just some quiet weeping
that was barely visible for an instant.

Can you imagine the same thing happening here? With Teabaggers?
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 09:38 PM
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127. There was almost a resignation
in the crowd, knowing that they had no control over whether they would live or die.

Teabaggers? I try not to imagine them in profound situations, though they'd probably blame those damn liberal elites.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:46 PM
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11. Just kept coming. It was hard to keep track of perspective and proportion of the things swept away.
I'd wonder about the guy doing the filming, but he must be alright or we wouldn't be seeing this. And the emergency announcer was ready so that's a good.

The cameraman just gave the world a lesson in the power of tsunamis with great detail. I think a lot people can't comprehend how dangerous they are.

To the Japanese people: :loveya:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:01 PM
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17. That wall you see being breached at the beginning of the film
was huge and supposed to protect the town against the sort of tsunami that had happened in the past. The whole town got leveled by this one, save for a few high rise buildings that had been built to the highest standards.

No matter how you try to build something impervious to the ravages of Mother Nature, she'll always send you something to wreck it and put you in your place.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:30 PM
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30. Where are all the cars coming from at the beginning of the footage?
I understand that wall is supposed to be a barrier against just such a thing. But why would there be a road (and building) on the other side of that barrier?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:52 PM
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33. Parked outside the wall, probably workers at that warehouse
that got crushed against the side of the high rise.

Nobody who drove in to work that day expected a 9.0 quake followed by a monster tsunami, parking outside the wall is what they usually did.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:56 PM
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34. Just think it's odd that they would have a warehouse on the other side of the seawall
Not that it would have done them much good if they had been on the "protected" side.

Either way, it's sad to see that much destruction.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:02 PM
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35. Where the hell else would they unload the ships?
It's a navigable river.
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 07:05 PM
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42. St Paul has an area now called "lower town: previous called "the levee"
Before they built higher levees to support "lower town" the levee would flood about every 4 years. Very poor people lived down there until about 1959, many went to my Mom and Aunt's High School. Now the walls are set for flood 26 feet above flood stage with some sandbagging but before the weather cooled down it looked like the northern snow pack was going to melt all at once and flood above 26 feet. We have a peak today at 18 feet and will have another in April when the northern snow pack usually melts. Our snow fall was third highest ever this year.

I thought they had only built warehouses and businesses in lower town that could move out quickly in case of high water but they were interviewing some folks in an apartment complex who's parking garage had already flooded from below. They were unsure on Thursday if they would have to evacuate the apartments because they would have to shut off water and sewer to the area depending on the crest height.

St Paul always used peoples basements as relief vales for sewer but usually when it backed up it was because of rain water but they separated sewer and rain water and now if it backs up your house is pretty much totaled. If you are smart you put in an illegal back flow valve which keeps backups from coming into your house. They are illegal because the pressure then ruptures the pipes and that costs the city money to fix. One of the dirty little city secrets. The snow melt in a outer suburban ring caused sewer back ups and the people are up in arms because 1) the city is exempt from liability 2) insurance won't cover sewer back ups as those in St Paul knew forever.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:47 PM
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12. Am I imagining seeing people in that water?
It sure looked like there were people being carried in those waves.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:58 PM
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15. I thought so, too.
The second time I started hoping that I wasn't seeing heads, the photographer turned away. I don't blame him.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:01 PM
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18. I thought so as well but if we're thinking of the same objects, they were too big to...
...be people. I'll bet you're thinking of the objects that appear to be "bobbing heads"- at least that's what caught my eye. I think they're more like 50-gallon drums or something that shape. I only saw one thing that looked like it might have been a person and it moved by so fast I just couldn't tell.

Mainly, I was using the building across the street (to the 'right' of the camerman) to get a sense of scale and, if my reckoning was correct, it would be fairly difficult to make out a person (with black hair) going by underneath and to the right at least of the cameraman.

In reality I think most people caught up in those huge rushes of water were killed fairly quickly. Uh, have you ever been rafting? If you fall out of the raft and there's a rock, sometimes you can get sucked into this little space behind the rock where the water sort of circulates. It's very dangerous because the movement of the water is such that it's very difficult to escape from and you eventually drown.

Because of the enormous number of physical obstacles involved I believe that, and the "souring" nature of the churning water-building-car debris would have been very difficult to survive more than a 5 minutes in, if a minute. Once a person drowns their body (especially in a circumstance like this) would not be very likely to float back to the top of the water until at least a few days later when decomposition started and gasses built up in the corpse which would cause it to raise to the surface again.

PB
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:03 PM
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19. No, those black dots, if you kept looking at them,
turned out to be backlit boxes and cars and shipping containers. People are just too small to be seen out in the river.

The problem for people isn't just the water, it's what the water is carrying that bangs into you.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 05:01 AM
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77. The cameraman thought so, too
At 2:56, he points at the deluge and says "Hito wa...", meaning roughly "There's someone (out there)"
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nilram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:03 PM
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20. Most intense one I've seen yet. I'd be worried about the building's foundation...
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:44 PM
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40. Some buildings are still standing even as they are entirely submerged.
They build things strong in Japan. I knew it seeing pictures of cars left on roofs, but this video shows the power of the water. It's astonishing that any buildings continued to stand against such forces.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 12:47 PM
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113. It looks like the buildings that survived
were the cinder block and concrete slab buildings that are least able to withstand the initial quake. :(
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:10 PM
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22. I'll see your spectactular tsunami footage and raise it another
Here's the tsunami hitting the sea wall and then engulfing the highway -- taken from a videocam on the dashboard of a car driving on the highway.

What's Japanese for "Holy shit!"?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:15 PM
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24. set to pop music? WTF?
sorry, but I find that absolutely tasteless, no offense to you Last Liberal.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 09:33 PM
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50. OMG!
Edited on Sat Mar-26-11 09:34 PM by intheflow
How did that video survive? It doesn't seem possible that the driver or the car could have. But I hope by some miracle they did.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:13 PM
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23. Hollywood could never match, much less surpass the real footage...
I've seen... What seemed particularly eerie in this one is the continuing Tsunami sirens and announcements well after it was clear that it was too late for anyone to do anything--you'd gotten to higher ground or you were already swept away... but the sirens continue. Amazing and sad.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:25 PM
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27.  wow! n/t
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:25 PM
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28. Documentary footage of the first order. Reminds me of how
insignificant homo sapiens is relative to Mother Nature.

Thank you for posting.
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Thunderstruck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:29 PM
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29. You're very welcome. It is truly humbling to see what Mother Nature is capable of.
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Chemisse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:49 PM
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31. It sure is. This is stunning. I really had a hard time understanding
how a tsunami did all this - just couldn't visualize it. Now I can.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 04:50 PM
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32. Hard to believe.
K&R
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:07 PM
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36. plays then stops. plays then stops. plays then stops. plays then stops. plays then stops.
Slashdotted website won't work properly.


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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:31 PM
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39. Works fine here
maybe your internet is screwy?
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 07:21 PM
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45. let the whole thing play..then start from beginning to see it without stops
works for slow connections
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 09:45 AM
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88. Or just pause it until it loads and they hit play. n/t
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 02:29 PM
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119. good tip
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:21 PM
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37. Unbelievable
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:30 PM
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38. amazing wow!
scary so scary
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IcyPeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 07:03 PM
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41. we could never comprehend this if it weren't for..
camera phones, etc.

reading about it just is not nearly the same as actually seeing this (and yes, I know that is an understatement).

It's horrific.



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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 08:06 PM
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49. Absolutely spot-on. I have what I consider to be a fantastic imagination but simply have NO...
...ability to conceive of a wall of water that huge, that unrelenting- what an entire town really looks like as its swept away over the course of literally a hand full of minutes.

PB
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 01:44 AM
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69. I still can't comprehend it with the video.
From even an engineering standpoint. I'm counting down from the roofline on the grey building, trying to gauge the depth of the water. I figure it's better than 30 feet. The flow rate.. And it seems to be in full swing still, when the video ends.

How can you design around this? You can't. You'd have to build something like the hoover dam across the entire coastline. And you'd have to earthquake proof THAT, or it would just fail anyway.

The amount of force.. It's a good thing the lower floors of the buildings that remained just failed, and the water streams through. I'd hate to think how much undercutting of the foundation there was by the time it was all over.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 01:47 AM
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72. +1, I share those sentiments completely.
It's just, not solvable.
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greytdemocrat Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 07:18 PM
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43. Incredible.
First time I've seen that one.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 07:19 PM
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44. You can see people walking around on the big building next door. scary
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 07:59 PM
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47. An entire town leveled - wow
Just when you thought it couldn't get worse - it did. A LOT worse.
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 08:05 PM
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48. wow. nt
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 10:01 PM
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51. kick for later
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ReggieVeggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 10:13 PM
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53. nature's power
incredible
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 10:37 PM
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55. I watch it, I see it
And it's still unbelievable and unreal to me. I can't begin to imagine and hope I never have to experience anything like that.
:scared:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 10:46 PM
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56. That is one of the most amazing pieces of film footages i've ever seen.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 10:54 PM
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58. It's terrifying to switch between the start of the video and the end,
to see how high that water rose. So relentless.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 10:58 PM
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59. Damn... and no time to escape...


Note the time frames!
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 12:23 AM
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63. Geez!
What a stunning video. Those poor people.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 12:36 AM
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64. Screen grabs... before and after






That's gotta be 20 feet above the parking lot of that building over there... probably 25. Maybe even 30!
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 01:30 PM
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115. Good screen grabs. This was the most terrifying video I've ever seen.. and I think it was because
of the SILENCE.. eerie silence other than the 'announcer'.

Wow..
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 02:25 AM
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74. I think this is the same thing from another veiwpoint.
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Chris_Texas Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 07:27 AM
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79. here you go,
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 09:39 AM
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87. The children crying is just heart-breaking.
Poor things! To have to go through so much trauma!
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Chris_Texas Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 10:45 AM
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98. I know... :(
I did think it was interesting to see the same event from two locations though. In the shot from further back you can see the building the photographer in the other video is standing on, and along the same lines, the guy in the heart of things actually points his camera back and films the people on the hill behind him.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 08:06 AM
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82. Look at the energy in that wave
Edited on Sun Mar-27-11 08:07 AM by grahamhgreen
and tell me again why we need nukes?
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Chris_Texas Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 08:10 AM
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83. Wrong thread or seriously inappropriate
You might want to try any of the hundred or so panic filled anti-nuke threads.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 09:37 AM
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85. Huh? grahamhgreen's comment is completely appropriate!
In this video, one can see the power of mother nature. In case you hadn't heard, this tsunami has set off (perhaps) multiple nuclear core meltdowns. No one knows for sure what the true extent of the damage is or what the final outcome will be. The news just keeps getting worse and worse. There is nothing panic filled or anti-nuke about it. In watching this video, it becomes more evident why the reactors could be so seriously damaged. They have endured a massive earthquake, a mind-boggling tsunami and powerful hydrogen explosions. grahamhgreen's comment belongs here 100%.
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Chris_Texas Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 10:34 AM
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95. EDIT
Edited on Sun Mar-27-11 10:43 AM by Chris_Texas
EDIT: I see that he has editted the post in question. For those coming along after the fact, it was not that big a deal. Sadly, i cannot remove my first post pointing out the issue :(
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 11:28 AM
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106. Ahhh. Don't you hate it when that happens?
Thanks for letting me know, Chris_Texas!

:hi:
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 10:49 AM
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100. The point is there are any number
of ways to generate electrical energy that do not include RISKY nuclear power. Wave action and tidal forces can be harnessed as power sources. Unless, of course, one has an economic interest in nuclear energy.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 09:37 AM
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86. I agree. n/t
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 12:02 PM
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108. People don't need to hurt each other, there is enough potential in nature.
We don't need wars but need to work together. Nature in its glory has enough ways of harming us.
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 08:13 AM
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84. Hly Crap;
Wasn't that Jesus in the blue Toyota that floated by?
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center rising Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 10:15 AM
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90. The power of water is absolutely incredible.
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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 10:31 AM
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94. because I'm a geological dummy.....
where in the frack does all the water come from?...was there an equal drop somewhere in the water line somewhere else in the world?
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Chris_Texas Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 10:37 AM
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97. Yes and no, more below....
Edited on Sun Mar-27-11 11:14 AM by Chris_Texas
The wave, like all waves had a crest and a trough. The water immediately preceeding and following the tsunami would be lower than the normal; this displaced water forms the wave. So yes, water dropped elsewhere, and no it did not have to drop on the other side of the world.

Note that this same action takes place with every wave. The difference is the volume of water we are talking about and the wavelength of the wave -- wavelength is the distance between the waves. A normal wave is a surface effect -- it has a very short wavelength (seen from the side the waves are not all that fat) and a high frequency (they come every few seconds). This Tsunami in this video had a huge wavelength, at this point in the video it took minutes for the wave to crest.

If you are interested, below is (to me) one of the most fascinating and frightening videos tsunami. Normal waves are surface action caused by wind and tides and what not. The wave's negative amplitude (the distance down) is very small. A Tsunami is not a surface wave, it is a top to bottom displacement of water. As such, it is only really noticable in shallow water -- deep water (as in this video) masks the effect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpTajjOpyHk

But not here. This is still a huge wave way out to see.
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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 10:59 AM
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102. I guess if there was a picture
I know it's called a wave, but it looks more like a huge surge of water. Originally from surfing land, this is not like the water formations I'm used to calling a wave. I appears from the videos like a huge water displacement from one side of the globe to another. The term "tidal" wave seems more what I envision....but of course to the extreme ....I lack the perspective to 'see' where the trough may be.
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Chris_Texas Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 11:23 AM
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104. Sorry, I editted and explained more above. (the original seemed smart assed in hindsight, sorry)
And yes, you are correct, it IS a huge surge of water. However, do not make the mistake of picturing a storm surge. A storm surge also is a surface effect -- as I understand it, storm surge is simply a mass of water stacked up by pressure and wind.

A Tsunami is different. It is a movement of water, a wave, from the ocean's surface all the way to the bottom. In deep water, this wave might be miles high.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 12:11 PM
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109. storm surge is simply a mass of water stacked up by pressure and wind.
Storm surge from a hurricane is a lot of wind, but mainly the height is determined by the dome of water sucked up by the extremely low pressure of the Hurricane.


But this is still a surface event, and the tsunami's waters rush and push all the way to the sea floor.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 10:35 AM
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96. Nature is scary!
Another reason never, ever to balance dangerous elements on the brink of such potential catastrophe.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 11:52 AM
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107. Jesus H Christ! I think I'm gonna cry...
Much scarier than any movie version... with a big wave like on the beach. This is like a slow, unstoppable push into oblivion... literally taking everything with it...
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Change Happens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 12:20 PM
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111. This is the most amazing thing I have ever seen - EVER! two thoughts:
1) How did the person filming this survive? Did that other tall building stay standing? I would have thought for sure I was going to be washed up with everything else, amazing stuff.

2) We (Florida people) are in deep shit: all of Florida is sitting on very low elevation, all residential areas are on the water, very close to the beach, not that 20-30 feet rise in the ocean will only effect waterfronts, it will cover the whole state.

This makes me think if this ever happens here, water will go from one side of the state to the other, it will dump all of us (dead) into the gulf of Mexico? My dad always said that there are three things that humans can never win against: Wind, Fire, and Water!!

Do you think my homeowners insurance policy would pay for this? Of course NOT!
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 12:44 PM
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112. Considering how many large buildings were being swept off their
foundations, I would not have felt safe even up where this person was filming from.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 01:32 PM
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116. I thought about that.. but if you look at this from HIS pov.. which we are.. he had
no idea how far the waters would come in and when you finally REALIZE they're going to demolish everything in their path.. where would he have gone?? There was nothing to do but swim.. nowhere to go.. how terrifying !
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Chris_Texas Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 03:21 AM
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129. Apparently the highest tsunamis recorded with this earthquake measured 16 meters
Over fifty feet.
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Urban Prairie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 02:51 PM
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121. I imagine that if the person filming this had noticed the hills in the backgound
being nearly swamped by the water then he probably was done for, and would not have bothered filming, even though there obviously still was a chance that the apparently much larger/taller building that he or she was in might be pushed off of its foundations, especially if the incoming tsunami-driven water had risen about ten feet or more higher and faster.

Obviously there may have been others who also filmed the ongoing effects of the tsunami, but unfortunately their film never was or ever will be uploaded to You Tube.

:-(
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 09:20 PM
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126. O.O" Taihen!
Edited on Sun Mar-27-11 09:20 PM by AsahinaKimi
totemo warui desune! :cry:
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 11:18 PM
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128. onegaishimasu!
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