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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:30 PM Original message |
The worsening journalistic disgrace at Wired (Manning chat logs, much more) |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. Greenwald should get a Pulitzer prize for his work on this case |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. This is much more convoluted than I thought it was. |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. K&R#10 n/t |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
3. Lamo is an Fbi informant.... He is the informant on Manning.. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. If that is true in some sense, then the only reporting done on the logs |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. The DOJ case is still weak, even if it had proof that Assange conspired with Manning or there were |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Exactly, I don't know why they are pushing this theory. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I meant to add, that Abbe Lowell, who represented the |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. They need to sell the idea that he isn't a journalist |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Rosen and Weissman weren't journalists - they were AIPAC lobbyists -- this too is a false |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I wasn't clear obviously. I know they were not journalists. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. You got it right, and I agree with you. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. The theory of potential prosecution for theft hinges on a 1988 Denial of Cert in the Morison case. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. And that might apply to Manning's charges but if they try it on Assange |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. To prosecute Assange under the Espionage Act, they would have to prove that |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. They'd be criminalizing journalism. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 01:21 AM Response to Reply #10 |
34. Yes, they seem to be jumping from one idea to the next, to try to |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. The Espionage Act dates to 1917. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. On edit - I see what you're getting at, s1. The problem will be temptation next term to pass an |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Yes, but again, if they respect the Judiciary Committee's findings, |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. The next Congress isn't bound by the findings of its predecessor. The issue isn't so much Assange, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Imo, they are more likely to set a precedent by going after both Manning and Assange |
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Dystopian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
5. KandR. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
12. K&R |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
17. I find Greenwald's signature aggrieved screech almost unreadable and difficult |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. How unfortunate for you. n/t |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
21. K&R |
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Riftaxe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
27. One of the other parties that has access to this evidence |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 12:19 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Baloney. Manning has been in solitary for months |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
28. Rec'd. Thanks for posting this. n/t |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
29. K&R |
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Ellipsis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
30. Tweet response from KPoulesn ...and the plot thickens. |
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Ellipsis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 12:40 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. . |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
33. K&R. (nt) |
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bengalherder (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
35. There's a quaint saying online Mr. Poulsen |
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