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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 08:54 AM Original message |
What do you guys think about Bradley Manning? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
1. His heart likely was in the right place, but he committed a crime. |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. If found guilty he could face the hangmans noose. n/t |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:20 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. He could but I remember reading a statement by the DOD that they are only seeking 52 years. |
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enough (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 11:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Wait a minute. He has not been charged with any crime, let alone tried. Why do you assume he is |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. He sure has, this list will grow |
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enough (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Thank you. I stand corrected on the charges, but he has not been tried. You are |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 04:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
30. Innocent until proven guilty is a standard for conviction. |
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enough (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
91. I simply don't accept accusation as a sufficient standard to judge someone guilty. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
78. I see quite a few people here calling him a 'hero' for what he supposedly did |
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enough (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 07:26 PM Response to Reply #78 |
92. This is a very interesting point, MH1. I'm not calling the guy a hero, because I don't know whether |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. What Statistical said nt |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
35. To what purpose? Is he a threat to society? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. We don't only put people in Prison for the rest of their lives because of threat. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
2. Not enough facts. |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
3. Derp. nt |
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Loudmxr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
4. Well I think he is really in a bad situation. Valerie Plame without the husband and BG dirt. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Valerie Plame was a CIA agent who was outed to punish her husband. Don't see the parallel |
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canetoad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
5. I think he is cursing the day |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
9. He's in a tough spot. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
10. I think he's a hero, but often true heroes aren't even appreciated by their 'side' |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. I agree, he's a hero. Assuming that what we are told is the truth. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Will he still be a hero if he takes the stand against assange?(nt) |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. If you mean, 'if he states that he was in touch with Assange' |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. If he testifies as a witness for the federal government AGAINST assange |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Ah, so the new guy was working against his country in |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. So Mugabe is a great guy and the US should support him? fo realz? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. To African Leaders, Mugabe IS a hero. Bottom line, |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 04:07 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Back to the original issue: how can telling the truth make you a bad guy? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. No secrets at all. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 04:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Then it should be up to those who want the secrets kept to keep them. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Manning didn't discover the secrets. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Your argument holds no water |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:14 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. 259,995 cables have dick to do with bush, just black flag shit slinging |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. It wasn't Like Manning had time to go through them all |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:22 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. So instead he just dumped them. And for that |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:24 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Which branch of the State Department do you work in? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. Black Block, lets get all hyped up on some RAM and break windows at starbucks(nt) |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:46 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. No, I want to know the truth |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:49 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. He dumped random documents? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:52 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Doesn't matter - tell me was Ellsburg justified? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:04 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Sorry not gonna. (nt) |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:07 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. OK then, its nice to know where YOU really stand |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:29 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Wasn't he an officer? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:38 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. You guys think anyone with a leftist bent is a hippy |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:16 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Is that like "you people" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:27 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Deleted message |
Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. You and I both know the cables had nothing to do with any of that |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:16 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Sop what "war crimes" were in all those 250,00 cables, Quick math quiz |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. SOP we're not talking about war crimes |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:24 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. 250,000/1,500,000 dollars and groupie tail |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:24 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Hi Agent Mike! |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:38 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Translated, "fresh the fuck out of ideas" so you go adhom.(nt) |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:42 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Nope, I just don't want any of your friends knocking at my door |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. And as for the leaks, I really don't care if Wikileaks posts maps and guides to all our nukes |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:48 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. At least you are in the clear with your positon. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:52 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Hey I expect my government to be honest |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:32 PM Response to Reply #70 |
90. You do know the government used to post this all online |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:47 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. Well, no one is going to put you in the gulag for your post |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:55 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. Tell that to Joe Iosbaker and Jess Sundin |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:03 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Laws are laws. Cant post kid porn online, cant conspire |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:06 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. When were they conspiring? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:27 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. lets see what the grand jury comes up with.. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Not a good idea making baseless accusations then |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. Did you know our founders sent coded letters, You know secrets, fairy tales |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:23 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. So what? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:25 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Reuters said its people were embedded and had no |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Did you even WATCH the video? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:38 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Aww dont be hatey, their cameras looked like RPG-7 and they got shot |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
11. Like him. |
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oldlib (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
19. A private in the army |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. He was busted back to pfc.. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. So what exactly does an Intel Analyst do without a clearance? |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
22. Truly? I think enough is enough |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. For the same reason there's no investigation.... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
24. About the same way I think of Daniel Ellsberg. A hero. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
65. Good answer. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
81. Innocent before proven guilty, right? How can he be a hero? |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
28. A politically committed man... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
33. That I don't know enough to have an even slightly-informed opinion |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
36. That he's now more myth than man |
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Meatball (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
37. Well theres no question that he committed a crime but... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
43. He's probably guilty, but if I were president I'd pardon him after my final election. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:16 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Jesus christ will play madison square garden before manning (or pollard or hannssen) |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:19 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. If Nixon could be pardoned, why not him? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:40 PM Response to Reply #48 |
60. Because manning is a treasonous POS |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:44 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Like Robert E. Lee or Richard Nixon? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:46 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. No like pollard, ames, and hanssen, and unlike rosenberg |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:47 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. You seem very bitter about this. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:50 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Reality, at times, is not fun |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
61. The same thing I think about Daniel Ellsberg. |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
85. Guilty! Of being ADORABLE. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
89. Much respect to him |
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