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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 12:17 AM
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WikiLeaks Central: Open Letter To Those Inciting Murder Upon Julian Assange &/Or His Family
http://wlcentral.org/node/725

OPEN LETTER
Submitted by Peter Kemp on Tue, 12/28/2010 - 04:58

OPEN LETTER

TO:

THOSE INCITING MURDER UPON JULIAN ASSANGE AND/OR MEMBERS OF HIS FAMILY.


We, among many law abiding citizens of the world deplore and condemn, as applicable, your utterances and writings calling for the extra judicial ie unlawful: kidnapping/assassination/murder/physical harm of Julian Assange, his supporters, Wikileaks workers or members of Assange's family.

We remind you of the laws in your country and others against incitement, inter alia:

Common law:

In English criminal law, incitement was an anticipatory common law offence and was the act of persuading, encouraging, instigating, pressuring, or threatening so as to cause another to commit a crime....The inciter must intend the others to engage in the behaviour constituting the offence, including any consequences which may result, and must know or believe (or possibly suspect) that those others will have the relevant mens rea."

Codified Incitement Law:

(1) Australian Commonwealth
11.4 Incitement
(1) A person who urges the commission of an offence is guilty of the offence of incitement.
(2) For the person to be guilty, the person must intend that the offence incited be committed.

(2) Canada
464. Except where otherwise expressly provided by law, the following provisions apply in respect of persons who counsel other persons to commit offences, namely,(a) every one who counsels another person to commit an indictable offence is, if the offence is not committed, guilty of an indictable offence and liable to the same punishment to which a person who attempts to commit that offence is liable; and

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We remind you that while such prima facie incitement by way of utterances and writings may go unpunished in your country, they will not necessarily go unpunished in others, and especially so should you have the courage of your convictions to repeat them in those other jurisdictions.

We ask you respectfully, to contemplate this writing of Mahatma Ghandi:

An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Truth stands, even if there be no public support. It is self sustained.

And that truth is that Julian Assange is no terrorist; he is not a war defined "belligerent" acting against the United States; he cannot ever be a "traitor"to the USA since by definition he is not a citizen of the United States.

- snip -

Yours Faithfully
Peter H Kemp
The Wikileaks Central Crew
And I believe, so many others all over the world.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 12:42 AM
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1. Self sustaining, that is the tradition of the oil not running out.
It is said in a few places.

Commenting on the quote there. Pretty good quote.

An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Truth stands, even if there be no public support. It is self sustained.

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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 06:15 AM
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2. Morning kick nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 06:26 AM
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3. Great letter
Rec
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 08:17 AM
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4. Here Here.
I agree. The rule of law tho has been set aside by criminals of late but we may yet return to it. If Mr. Assange and others keep putting the truth out there.

Thanks for posting HS!
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 09:51 AM
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5. K & R
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 09:55 AM
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6. Mahatma Ghandi was right.
Truth remains truth no matter who doesn't like it.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 10:00 AM
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7. 250,000 cables/1,500,000 dollars
Edited on Wed Dec-29-10 10:01 AM by Pavulon
Assange (new god) inked a book deal based on the criminal acts of Manning (Jesus, based on mannings followers, and his pending "trials"). god wants the PUTUS to resign.

Pretty simple. He is making cash from classified info. He is subject to criminal conspiracy laws if he participated and he is operating as an intelligence agency brokering classified data.

He and anyone else who touched the information prior to the publication are also a military problem unless they are in the US. And they could very well end up just like Gerry Bull.

He chose his reality, not he can live with it's consequences.
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 08:36 PM
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9. oh ROFL. I refer you to a better source than I
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/12/29/allan_nairn_as_us_loses_its

...

There’s talk now, there are reports, that the U.S. is looking to indict Assange on conspiracy. Obama’s Justice Department, Holder, is reportedly, according to the New York Times, trying to do this. And they’re looking at a charge that would say it’s conspiracy because Assange encouraged Manning to leak the documents. He didn’t just passively receive them; he encouraged him. Well, if they indict him for that, they should also indict me, because I have done that, as well. They say that it’s a crime of conspiracy to solicit classified U.S. material in that way. Well, I have done that. I have done that on numerous occasions. And I’ll now tell Attorney General Holder, you can come and arrest me, too.

... ALLAN NAIRN: And while he’s at it—and while he’s at it, he’ll also have to come for a lot of the staff of the New York Times and the Washington Post, who, you know, several times a week publish classified material, usually leaked out of self-interested motives to justify this or that government policy. I mean, when you get classified material, sometimes it’s just handed to you. But I would say, you know, maybe about half the time, you have to work for it. You have to—you talk to somebody who knows about something, and they say, "Yeah, that’s true." And then you say, "Oh, well, is there any documentation on that?" And they say, "Well, there is, as a matter of fact." And, "Well, can you get it?" By the case they’re apparently building against Assange, that constitutes conspiracy.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 12:35 AM
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22. Has nothing to do with what manning will say in court
it all revolves around him taking the stand. He has some real decisions to make. The life and death kind.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 12:37 AM
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24. They will have to forget about indicting Julian Assange.
It was foolish to even suggest it. No country in Europe would legally be able to honor an extradition request to this country. The treaties signed regarding extradition state explicitly that if a person is being prosecuted for political reasons, there will be no extradition. If there is any cause to believe that the person might be tortured or treated inhumanely or unfairly, there cannot be an extradition.

Sadly, this country is now on the list of countries that torture and persecute people for political reasons.

Also, the Judiciary hearing last week made it clear that to even try to trump up charges against an editor and publisher of an International News Organization, would be very foolish. It would simply embarrass the U.S.

Even Repubs on the committee did not put up much of a fight, recognizing that to try to go after Wikileaks would be threat to every other legitimate news organization in the world. The world would rush to his defense, as indeed they have already. Reporters Without Borders and the Australian Journalists Org have already issued statements condemning the very idea of going after them.

I think Julian Assange is very safe from any attempt to extradite him by the U.S. He should avoid small planes and make it clear he has no intention of committing suicide though.

Thanks for the link.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 12:49 AM
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25. Thats your bet, I have mine.
mr assange is the CIA's problem until he is taken into custody in the US. He should spend his million.5 soon, lots of people have strokes from eating to much cheese. The small plane thing is a myth.

Polonium is not. The CIA will be the least of his worries. Others use a different Cost Benefit Analysis when deciding whom to deal with.

If manning testifies he will be indicted and extradited to the US.
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micraphone Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 09:45 PM
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10. Yeah Yeah Blah Blah...
... but what about the point made in OP...
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 12:36 AM
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23. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes..(nt)
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micraphone Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 04:30 AM
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26. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes..
Out (our) corrupt gvnts and secret intel gathering apparatus?

Gathering ring info on YOU??????

Is THAT what you don't want?????

Sounds like like you do.

NT
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 11:42 PM
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16. ...
:rofl:

RL
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 12:25 AM
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20. Pavulon, you really are a caution....
Edited on Thu Dec-30-10 12:32 AM by ooglymoogly
curious minds want to know...do you get paid by the bleat....and do they shear your wool in the bargain? Just answer bleat for yes or bleat, bleat or baa for no.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 12:33 AM
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21. Sorry not on my knees for the new assange god. All the hero worship
some folks need knee pads. This asshole is calling for the president to resign while taking a million.5 for brokering information some other asshole stole.

His groupies are entertaining. I have a job and it pays more than GS15. Sorry just because I dont have a fucking fishhook stuck in my face and a gut full of bait does not make me a "paid" poster.

So should the POTUS resign like assange god says? Curious minds want to know.
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 05:36 AM
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27. Manning exposed crimes of greater gravitas and systematic reality than his presumed crimes.
I am not into personalities just facts.

Higher security and black ops documenmts would trump anything from WikiLeaks or Manning. Nothing from WikiLeaks has surprised me except some detail. Many document crimes and bad faith by our government? Is this OK with you? If so, why are you so anti-American? I hope it is not because of military brainwashing or personal perversion.

There is no proof I have seen that there is a connection between Manning as a whistleblower and Assange a journalist.

You assume facts that you do not or should not know in almost every one of your posts.

You judge Manning's action, but I would judge you more mentally deviant and psychopathic from your posts at DU.
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 08:31 PM
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8. K & R (n/t)
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 10:07 PM
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11. Excellent post
Now if we can just remember every time it comes up that it is inciting murder against someone who has been convicted of no crime. It is NOT politics.

In particular, every time it comes up because a DU poster starts prattling on about the crimes he's committed and the death he deserves for treason.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 11:01 PM
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12. Great post...thanks Wikileaks Central
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 11:19 PM
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13. He does not expose national security, only national corruption,dishonesty, hypocrisy
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 11:21 PM
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14. He is a media hero which I hope many will follow.Oh the games played under guise of Natl Security
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 11:23 PM
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15. Our media "Darlings" espose nothing. Cowards controlled by their paycheck
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 12:07 AM
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19. I too believe that this is the case.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 11:44 PM
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17. k and r
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 11:46 PM
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18. Fucking-A K&R - n/t
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