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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:42 AM Original message |
SELF-DELUDED America Will Pay a Mighty Price If It Keeps Pretending Its the Superpower It Used to Be |
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somone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
1. The death spiral continues as long as the MIC is in control |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yep, that's the root cause of a lot of this mess, but prying those on the |
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BlueJac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #2 |
28. Bankrupt is already here........... |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
32. That's what took down the Soviet Union |
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KillCapitalism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 01:42 AM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Very true. |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 09:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
20. What is the "MIC" |
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unhappycamper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 09:08 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. MIC = Military Industrial Complex |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 09:21 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. With the amount of Campaign Contributions they make |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
3. Those who snarled about "blaming America first" apparently forgot that in a democracy |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 02:49 AM Response to Reply #3 |
15. I think that a better approach to the "blame America first" meme is-- |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 02:55 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Good description of reality. nt |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. I wonder how long it took the British people to realize they were no |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. I assume you mean Victoria, not Elizabeth |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 12:32 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Yes, Victoria. Just got done reading about Elizabeth I and got them |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
5. America is nowhere close to failing as an empire... even worse, we are in the terrible teen years |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I'm not so sure. A lot of what we are experiencing now is the same problems |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. History teaches us many things... one them is that the past is not necessarily repeating itself... |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Over $11 trillion in debt for a country with a negative trade balance. |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 10:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. The obvious answer is the U.S. is not Rome, or to undercut my own argument, Britain |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 08:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
35. I think its more up to our factors, rather than ourselves |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 03:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
17. The US will fail as an empire when it can no longer sustain its military garrisons overseas. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #5 |
26. Sounds like something the Soviets said just before the wall came down |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 12:28 AM Response to Reply #26 |
40. Most empires collapse that way... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 12:26 AM Response to Reply #5 |
39. 'xeot experts are increasingly sounding the alarm |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
8. The US, since its creation, has always been an empire. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 03:55 AM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Correct. One need only consult the Native Americans nt |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 02:28 AM Response to Reply #18 |
42. People tend to forget about the Native American nations and Mexico. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
11. K&R |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
14. Rec'd. n/t |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
19. K&R n/t |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
23. We already have paid a mighty price |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
24. Should be required reading for every eligible voter |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
25. The collapse could be total and quick |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. +100. nt |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 11:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. A currency crisis is coming, IMHO. |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 12:06 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. The US is very similar to Britain after WW1. |
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Kaleko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 03:40 AM Response to Reply #25 |
44. An increasingly likely scenario in my view. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
27. France paid it. Britain paid it. Our turn. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
30. We need to be rejecting this imperialism here at home .... |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
31. And all the right wing propagandists |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 03:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. And I'm sure quite a few of them view our soldiers as missionaries bringing |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
33. We've become a dependent of our empire and must go bankrupt to defend it. |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
38. "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 03:05 AM Response to Original message |
43. it already is. it is collapsing and has been for years. |
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Mosaic (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
45. The sooner the better |
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Mosaic (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
46. Excellent quote from the article. |
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