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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 08:23 PM
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Wikileaks has been releasing cables for 30 days now.
They have released 1,947 of 251,287 documents.

Yesterday, they released two. Two whole cables! Today, zero.

If this pace continues, it will take over 10 years to release all these documents.


What the hell?
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 08:25 PM
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1. If ya'll can't smell a scam by now, I have a used car that suits you
Let's step into my office and finish up the paperwork!
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 08:54 PM
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11. what's the scam exactly?
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 12:47 AM
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20. The Storytelling...
It is honestly, hilarious.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 09:23 PM
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15. The exposure of war crimes is a 'scam'? Have you read those
cables? The only scam going on is that no action against the war criminals exposed in these news releases, has been taken by this country.

Nor has any action been taken against the State Dept. which broke the law regarding using our State Dept. for espionage purposes. At least not in this country, but other countries are paying attention and are demanding accountability for the illegal actions of this country.

what we HAVE discovered however, is how this country is not longer a civilized country that agrees with the rest of the civilized world regarding Human Rights.

Those revelations, the interference of THIS administration to protect war criminals, to slam the European Court of Human Rights, all these things are having a profound affect on the rest of the world in how they now view this country.

I know you are trying to push the idea that there is some kind of scam going on. Anyone who could say that after viewing the revelations of serious war crimes, torture and murder of innocent people, anyone who can look at these revelations and say 'scam' is complicit in the crimes.

We are being exposed on a daily basis as the real problem in this world. For some this is hard to acknowledge. But it is a fact. We are viewed now in large parts of the world in the same way the Soviet Union was once viewed. One of the biggest threats to world peace in the world today.

There is no scam going on. These are documents coming straight from U.S. representatives. No way to deny them.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 01:03 AM
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21. At some point you are just going to have to say
Derp.
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 04:03 AM
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22. your lack of point was just made
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 08:27 PM
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2. I have patience.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 08:31 PM
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3. Maybe he's busy writing the book that he doesn't really want to write.
He doesn't want to write a book about himself you know... he has to.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 08:39 PM
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4. So do we now have transparency?
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 08:41 PM
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5. Once assange's book gets close to dropping maybe there will be more..
1.5 million for his story.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 08:42 PM
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6. What does one have to do with the other?
I was made to believe wikileaks was an organization, not just one individual.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 08:48 PM
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7. Well taking a million.5 while you source gets nothing for defense
Edited on Wed Dec-29-10 08:48 PM by Pavulon
is pretty shitty. The only thing assange did to earn that cash was dump info manning gave him, at a VERY SLOW PACE. Assange claimed to have a million documents in 2006. Looks like he may be behind.

Wikileaks is not a massive thing like IBM, its less than a hundred people.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 09:55 PM
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19. .
Edited on Wed Dec-29-10 10:05 PM by Amonester
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kgnu_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 08:48 PM
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8. What you do not understand - Newspaper partners are responsible for releasing speed
Wikileaks is only making the original available when any one of those partners release articles. Then you can go check to see the original cable and see if and how these newspapers cover the stories.

Actually El Pais (Spanish papers) have been releasing lots of interesting stories. You should check out Wikileaks Central to see how other newspapers are covering stories, since our NYT is not going be very reliable about timely releasing of very interesting stories
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 09:03 PM
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13. I check out WL Central every day...
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 09:11 PM
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14. That's not what the FAQ says.
The embassy cables will be released in stages over the next few months. The subject matter of these cables is of such importance, and the geographical spread so broad, that to do otherwise would not do this material justice.

We owe it to the people who entrusted us with the documents to ensure that there is time for them to be written about, commented on and discussed widely in public, something that is impossible if hundreds of thousands of documents are released at once. We will therefore be releasing the documents gradually over the coming weeks and months.


Would you have me believe that each of the 1,947 cables released thus far have been "written about, commented on and discussed widely in public..."?
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 09:41 PM
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18. Here is an excellent overview of the process
(I suspect the holidays have something to do with the recent slowness of the releases - a lot of staff is on break.)

"Unlike earlier disclosures by WikiLeaks of tens of thousands of secret government military records, the group is releasing only a trickle of documents at a time from a trove of a quarter-million, and only after considering advice from five news organizations with which it chose to share all of the material.

"They are releasing the documents we selected," Le Monde's managing editor, Sylvie Kauffmann, said in an interview at the newspaper's Paris headquarters.

WikiLeaks turned over all of the classified U.S. State Department cables it obtained to Le Monde, El Pais in Spain, The Guardian in Britain and Der Spiegel in Germany. The Guardian shared the material with The New York Times, and the five news organizations have been working together to plan the timing of their reports.

They also have been advising WikiLeaks on which documents to release publicly and what redactions to make to those documents, Kauffmann and others involved in the arrangement said.

"The cables we have release correspond to stories released by our main stream media partners and ourselves. They have been redacted by the journalists working on the stories, as these people must know the material well in order to write about it," WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said in a question-and-answer session on The Guardian's website Friday. "The redactions are then reviewed by at least one other journalist or editor, and we review samples supplied by the other organisations to make sure the process is working.""

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i0Vruimmvy8loGklsz34QyGDKMDA?docId=120c7bf5d3a34dbaadf1280dace2e456

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 08:52 PM
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9. I thought another about a bank or some banks was going to show up after the first of the year.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 08:52 PM
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10. Wikileaks is losing Page 1 real estate, and quickly.
I suspect there's some discussion as to what can be done to keep more of the releases "higher-up" in the news. I know many criticize Assange for the showmanship part of all this he works so adeptly, but it's a critical component here -- and it's my favorite thing he does.

Might be hard to believe, given my thoughts on Assange, but I support Wikileaks' mission in broad terms. Genuinely important news is rarely "sexy," and there has been some genuinely important news to come from these cables in between the Anna Nicole stuff.

I don't know how you keep peoples' attention long enough for that much material.
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rgbecker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 09:00 PM
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12. Following the 15 seconds of scanners and pat downs.
Which was right after the millions of gallons of oil in the gulf, which was right along with Haiti's earthquake. The ebb and flow is enough to make one sick. I can't even keep them in order.
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 09:25 PM
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16. It will be very boring very soon. No one cares.
Hey, I heard JLo is the new American Idol judge!
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