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spinbaby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 07:47 AM Original message |
Tall flier made to stand on Spirit Airlines |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:32 AM Response to Reply #1 |
13. I once sat near a very obese individual in a 2-5-2 configuration of seats. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:27 AM Response to Reply #13 |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
18. But, this won't be popular, but.... |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:11 AM Response to Reply #18 |
38. not easily, not quickly, and not with a great % of success |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:16 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I agree wholeheartedly. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:25 AM Response to Reply #18 |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
2. I'm sorry, but a passenger should not have the oneness on them... |
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BlueCollar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I disagree... |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:28 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Buying two seats won't give him leg room... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #5 |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 09:26 AM Response to Reply #5 |
80. Huh? |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Mr. smokey is 6'8" and flying is hell for him. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. why does that translate to a problem for others? |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:31 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Where did I say that it did? |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:32 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. you are correct - you didn't |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:31 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Related: why does someone's disabillity translate to a problem for others? |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:40 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. nope - I am not |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:46 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. You can read the ADA statute. HIV, for instance applies as well in . |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:52 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. I am not sure discomfort applies to that definition |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:55 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. He could not safely fit in the seat for the duration of the flight... |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #27 |
77. Thank you for the sane comment. nt |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #17 |
58. And what is this tall man supposed to do if the plane encounter turbulence? |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:33 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I guess it's part of that social equality thing. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:50 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. I don't think he was. He was sold a seat. He was allowed to stand |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:51 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. A store visit does not fall under FAA safety regulations. |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:53 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Your concern for the bottom-line is admirable. nt |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:53 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. oh brother . . . . |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:12 AM Response to Reply #26 |
39. Just trying to see your motivation for your impassioned defense of Spirit. :) nt |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #39 |
47. and what did you decide |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #47 |
62. See the reply to the post where you imply that I'm making this personal. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #25 |
48. why do you feel the need to make this personal? |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 12:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
61. What was personal about that? I simply "bottom lined" an entire chain of thought. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 10:44 AM Response to Reply #21 |
49. Your posiutioin on the ADA is flawed |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #49 |
76. and what is the store's obligation until new stalls that "must be provided" are, should |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 03:47 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Depends how fast the ADA complaint gets filed |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #21 |
54. Allowing him to stand was a danger to other passengers |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 05:21 PM Response to Reply #54 |
75. which would be the case for anyone not strapped in during the period when no seat belts are required |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
64. to take the person's groceries to their car |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #64 |
74. you are 180 degrees off base my friend |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:05 AM Response to Reply #2 |
32. "Oneness" is not the same as "onus" |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:10 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Onus... thanks (suitably embarrassed) |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 11:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
53. psst... |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 11:31 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Did you not see that someone else had already corrected me? |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I did not |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. No problem... |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. I don't like to make mistakes like that either |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
3. "made to stand" and "given permission to stand" are not the same |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:24 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Yes. Remember, flying is a priviledge, not a right. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I have done the same |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
19. Except that wasn't the choice, |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
65. they were the same in this case |
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Mopar151 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
10. I'm the same height as Mr. Anderson |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:37 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. You should be accomodated-- that is the issue... |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:03 AM Response to Reply #16 |
29. Funny thing about items on high shelves, Mr. smokey is always happy to help |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:04 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. It would nice if more people felt this way... |
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Mopar151 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:08 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Ayn Rand IS the devil! n/t |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:17 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. She certainly is. |
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Mopar151 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:04 AM Response to Reply #16 |
30. I would agree |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:05 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Mr. smokey does the same thing when he shops. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:09 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. ... |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
23. Well, a couple of Traveller's Thrombosis lawsuits might get them to do the right thing at least. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 08:58 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. exactly.. not merely a matter of discomfort, but actual health hazard |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
34. How about TRUTH IN ADVERTISING. Spirit should be honest that the $25 fee is manditory for some. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
44. Why didn't someone in an emergency exit row trade seats |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
63. In this fee-based utopia for our airlines, Spirit CHARGED the exit row passengers more. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Yes, but... |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Seems to me there would have been no problem had Spirit been upfront |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. I don't know that they weren't. If I were that tall, I'd certainly |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Well, maybe we can get one of you on every flight... :) |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
45. Wow...What if they had hit some turbulence? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
46. The only reason for a 28" seat pitch is CORPORATE GREED |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #46 |
60. 28" is pretty ridiculous. |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 09:28 PM Response to Reply #60 |
78. Interesting table - it looks like Spirit also has the 2nd largest seat pitch (36") |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
51. I can't even imagine at this point |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
52. Even apart from the problem of stingy seat pitch -- |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. On the other hand he was probably the first out the door. |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
66. That's got to be illegal - I suspect there's a flight crew that's in for a serious talking to |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. That's "starting at" $25. No guarantee that on this particular flight that was an available upgrade |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-10 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
73. I am 5'1.5" tall, with legs that are short |
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