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Sat Jul 18, 2020, 09:38 AM

Retired three-star general: "This secret police bullshit"

Russel L. Honore' @ltgrusselhonore
Make a note, We need to forbid police and federal agents from using military uniforms . The camo uniforms are meant to blend into terrain, the want to be warriors should be in police uniforms with names and badge numbers, this secret police bullshit is misuse of @DHSgov


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Reply Retired three-star general: "This secret police bullshit" (Original post)
bigtree Jul 2020 OP
Baitball Blogger Jul 2020 #1
Liberal In Texas Jul 2020 #9
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Baitball Blogger Jul 2020 #13
paleotn Jul 2020 #29
keithbvadu2 Jul 2020 #30
haele Jul 2020 #49
pwb Jul 2020 #2
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2020 #39
Boomerproud Jul 2020 #3
soldierant Jul 2020 #53
Chainfire Jul 2020 #4
2naSalit Jul 2020 #12
RVN VET71 Jul 2020 #43
CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2020 #5
Pachamama Jul 2020 #60
tulipsandroses Jul 2020 #6
Newest Reality Jul 2020 #7
SallyHemmings Jul 2020 #8
Tribetime Jul 2020 #11
mdbl Jul 2020 #58
uponit7771 Jul 2020 #10
Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #14
mcambush Jul 2020 #15
MuchBetterThanThis Jul 2020 #23
SlogginThroughIt Jul 2020 #37
stopdiggin Jul 2020 #44
Hortensis Jul 2020 #27
lunatica Jul 2020 #38
musclecar6 Jul 2020 #16
NJCher Jul 2020 #35
blitzen Jul 2020 #17
Dukkha Jul 2020 #18
wnylib Jul 2020 #25
obamanut2012 Jul 2020 #19
IronLionZion Jul 2020 #20
PubliusEnigma Jul 2020 #21
DallasNE Jul 2020 #22
summer_in_TX Jul 2020 #59
AleksS Jul 2020 #24
Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #56
Victor_c3 Jul 2020 #26
uponit7771 Jul 2020 #33
ancianita Jul 2020 #28
paleotn Jul 2020 #31
duforsure Jul 2020 #32
love_katz Jul 2020 #34
EarnestPutz Jul 2020 #36
Augiedog Jul 2020 #40
MagickMuffin Jul 2020 #41
bigtree Jul 2020 #42
Hekate Jul 2020 #45
VA_Jill Jul 2020 #46
burrowowl Jul 2020 #47
Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #57
UpInArms Jul 2020 #48
Pepsidog Jul 2020 #50
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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 09:44 AM

1. What I said in another post. Camo-wear was a fashion fail.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:10 AM

9. I like the camo for Space Force

Lunar camo ROFL

(the TV series, not the military branch that'll be disbanded in a year or so.)

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Response to Liberal In Texas (Reply #9)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:21 AM

13. .

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Response to Liberal In Texas (Reply #9)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:14 AM

29. If it even really exists at all....

outside of Donnie's little mind.

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Response to Liberal In Texas (Reply #9)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:20 AM

30. Camo

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 04:02 PM

49. Camo in an urban setting only makes one stand out.

In terms of OPSEC it's better to look like the forces around them if they want to "blend in"; seriously - wearing camo in the city just shouts "hey, we don't really belong here, and we know we really look stupid - but we don't care 'caus this color pattern means y'all got to respect our autho-ritie..."
They're an occupying force, out of their jurisdiction. And wearing camo is just another bit of proof.

Haele


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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 09:44 AM

2. These guys from trumps military school?

They were all decorated for fire guard duty.. So out of place?

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Response to pwb (Reply #2)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 12:27 PM

39. Donny got his for keeping his room clean

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 09:45 AM

3. Preach it General Honore.

Trump and his misadministration cannot get away with this!

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Response to Boomerproud (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 06:09 PM

53. They can f they are allowed to

which s why they must not be allowed to.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 09:45 AM

4. It is the uniform of the modern day Brownshirts

When the Federal Government starts making war on the people, it is time for a change. It is only a matter of time before people start shooting back at these goons.

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Response to Chainfire (Reply #4)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:21 AM

12. And that's what they're pushing for. ...nt

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Response to Chainfire (Reply #4)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 01:22 PM

43. Shooting back? I dunno.

The idea, as I see it, is to bully and shoot at and torture people very unlikely to own guns. Something like pushing an ice-cream cone in the face of an amish farmer. The camo-dressed goons sent by Trump are pretty certain there's no Harrison Ford to react a-la "Witness."

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 09:46 AM

5. Russel L. Honore is absolutely right.

This is wrong on every level.

Every level.



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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 19, 2020, 05:45 AM

60. +10000000

Goes against everything

There needs to be a wave of outrage from the military- at least all retired

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 09:47 AM

6. Psychologically, it signals that you are at war with citizens. Its outrageous.

If this is the idea of what policing looks like - Of course you will attract the very people that people are protesting against. Bullies and oppressors. People that want to fight. Not people interested in protecting the community. Protecting the community means exactly that - even if you have to arrest someone - protecting them at the same time you do that.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 09:52 AM

7. Maybe they should wear brown shirts since that is befitting?

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:03 AM

8. Strip them of funding

Congress has the power of the purse. It is time to exercise that power.


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Response to SallyHemmings (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:18 AM

11. 1000 👍😃

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Response to SallyHemmings (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:08 PM

58. In case you missed it, Trump and Co don't give a shit what Congress says

and the asshole republicans in the senate gave him a pass to do whatever he wants.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:12 AM

10. Someone should tell them " I was just following orders" didn't work then, not going to work today

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #10)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:26 AM

14. Exactly!

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:40 AM

15. MSNBC and CNN suck

Why isn't this top story on News? Remember Lewis of course but this is a huge story! Oh, and could they follow up on Russian bounty story also.

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Response to mcambush (Reply #15)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:53 AM

23. Why shit on them. They are/have been reporting it all morning.

John Lewis is bigger at the MOMENT. So lets get on their case when they STOP reporting it.
Last thing we need is the "left" also trashing the media

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Response to MuchBetterThanThis (Reply #23)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:57 AM

37. Exactly!

 

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Response to MuchBetterThanThis (Reply #23)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 01:54 PM

44. we most definitely have our media haters! (nt)

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Response to mcambush (Reply #15)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:08 AM

27. They've been in Portland since about July 5, and this

started being covered in local and national news media before that when Trump first threatened to do this. Often the earliest and most thorough coverage of eventually big stories is local, for obvious reasons. As it was here.

MSNBC and CNN are NOT news networks. They're political entertainment/discussion networks. They did report and discuss Trump's threats, and they did mention that federal agents were sent, and they then waited for the trouble wannabe-strongman Trump intended to cause blew up into something emotion-provoking enough for viewers to want to listen to discussions. Which it did this weekend as the feds became more aggressive.

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Response to mcambush (Reply #15)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 12:23 PM

38. They seem to be covering the story just fine.

You can’t turn MSNBC on without tripping over this story. It’s a good idea to watch if you want the latest.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:43 AM

16. Good for Honere



Trump never stops pushing that ball over the goal line which for him is to become a totalitarian dictator. Thanks to the Republican congress and other adoring sycophants and his base he is moving relentlessly to get there including getting re-elected and if he does look out.

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Response to musclecar6 (Reply #16)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:47 AM

35. well, I think that

considering the outstanding work he's done on light bulbs, we should disregard the camo "brownshirts."

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:44 AM

17. You Geaux, General Honore'! n/t

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:45 AM

18. Does it even need to be pointed out?

For as long as I have been alive the pro 2A gun nuts have screamed to high heavens that they arm themselves to prevent armed government tyranny and secret police.

It is happening now in real time and absolute DEAFENING crickets of silence from the right wing gun toting self-appointed freedom fighter militias.

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Response to Dukkha (Reply #18)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:03 AM

25. From their perspective, the people

being arrested by secret police are criminals and commies who want to overthrow capitalism in favor of "left wing fascism." (Trump actually called it that.)

So no intervention needed, except maybe to help the secret police.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:46 AM

19. And, any Alt-Right CoD LARPer can abduct people

in their white murder vans.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:47 AM

20. So they brought back the Gestapo

to make America great again, just like Germany was made great again in the 1930s

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:49 AM

21. Trump's Brownshirts

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:50 AM

22. Who Are These People

Are they possibly troops employed by Eric Prince? Trump likes to use private forces for his goon squads so this would fit.

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #22)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:33 PM

59. NPR reported yesterday from an interview with Ken Cucinelli that the federal

buildings are being protected by Federal Protective Services, who are being supported by both CBP and ICE officers.

He said "a much unknown agency, the Federal Protective Service, is responsible for protecting thousands around the country. That is an agency within the Department of Homeland Security. And the CBP agents that you saw backing them up are doing just that. They are there cross designated to support FPS, not the other way around."

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:55 AM

24. In all that, they're giving me shades of the SF movie

Brazil.

The squad that went out and rounded up political prisoners was fully obscured—face covering masks, etc. just like these guys.

Wouldn’t be surprised If they get trucks they can hang bagged prisoners off of next.

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Response to AleksS (Reply #24)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:05 PM

56. You are so right

I had forgotten about that. I need to rewatch that classic!!

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:07 AM

26. Not to mention that they look like an undisciplined gaggle

Some with their sleeves rolled up, some not even with a hand on their rifle, some wearing sneakers,...

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Response to Victor_c3 (Reply #26)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:33 AM

33. +1,

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:11 AM

28. Retired 3-Star General Honore translation:

if we keep kicking this privatized militarization of the Executive branch, there may be no civilian command, just a corporate military junta led by a Russian puppet.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:22 AM

31. Fascist stormtroopers

But they really need to work on those uniforms. Authenticity is important. Might I suggest....





If they want to be Nazis, we'll call them exactly what they are. Fucking Nazis. And in a country full of guns, they keep this shit up, one of them is bound to get popped.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:25 AM

32. Who'll stop trump from violating our constitutional rights?

If they don't rush this to the courts for judges to rule on ASAP, or this will just get worse , and very quickly. trump will take advantage of the ability to stall all legal proceeding unless they act quickly.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:46 AM

34. They look more like military troops than police officers.

No visible I.D., faces masked. This looks more like a military coup than local and county police. I have read that these troops are agents from the Border Patrol, Homeland security, and U.S. Marshalls. Not accountable to local authorities and not coordinating with local law enforcement.Agolf Twitler fancies himself as a war president, and wants to bolster his falling poll numbers by starting a war on American soil, against American citizens. This whole situation is extremely dangerous. I further think that Twitler is hoping to inflame the situation so he can use it as an excuse to declare martial law, and then spread these tactics to any other city that has protests going on. He continues to spray more gasoline on the fires.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:50 AM

36. I like the part about the "want-to-be" warriors. Especially coming from a real soldier.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 12:34 PM

40. Just another pile of right wing cowards. You will NEVER see one by themselves, always in packs .

Classic cowards

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 12:38 PM

41. Perhaps the protesters should also dress up in military clothes


Civilians can buy them as well. Just dress up like them and look so badass.

Then no one would be kidnapped and detained.

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Response to MagickMuffin (Reply #41)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 12:42 PM

42. sounds like preparations for war

...protesters are on a civilian mission.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 01:57 PM

45. Kick

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 02:03 PM

46. This is some bullsh*t right here

When asked about calls for an investigation into DHS police tactics in Portland, Oregon, Acting Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security Ken Cuccinelli tells NPR not only are they not going to stop but they want to take the tactics nationwide.

Well, we are – we welcome – the more investigations, the better. With as much lawbreaking is going on, we’re seeking to prosecute as many people as are breaking the law as it relates to federal jurisdiction. That’s not always happening with respect to local jurisdiction and local offenses. But, you know, this is a posture we intend to continue not just in Portland but in any of the facilities that we’re responsible for around the country...

Sounds to me like the Cooch is trying to start an all-out civil war. Who was it said, "If they must have a war, let it begin here"?

And BTW, this absolutely REEKS of Blackwater. I don't care what Erik, Prince of Darkness, calls it now. It will always be Blackwater, and it will always stink.

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Response to VA_Jill (Reply #46)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 02:51 PM

47. It does stink of Blackwater

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Response to VA_Jill (Reply #46)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:06 PM

57. bingo!!

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 03:40 PM

48. Did Gen. Milley start this fashion fail?

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 04:09 PM

50. Shut these fuckers down with all due speed, forthwith!

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 05:29 PM

51. Rt!

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 05:38 PM

52. Again, local police, swat teams, and armored vehicles need to surround the fake force...

And arrest them for following illegal orders issued to them and follow up the chain of their command. Force the Constitutional crisis they are invoking to shut them down, otherwise they will grow stronger and threaten more.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 06:59 PM

54. Where are all the Jade Helm alarmists now?

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:04 PM

55. OrangeAnus is getting off on this bullshit.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Jul 19, 2020, 05:53 AM

61. eric prince

likes to play soldier. Wonder what this contract was worth?

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