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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTHE TELL re: Fed Agent Forces In Cities
Heres the tell:
Senior DHS officials said they expect the unrest to escalate at least through the November election.
Expect?
This is not/has never been about so-called law & order. Its always been about interfering w the election.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/21/trump-federal-force-cities-377273
Link to tweet
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Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)They are moving off federal property when they kidnap citizens off the street into unmarked vehicles.
Their "mandate" is not what they are doing.
highplainsdem
(48,959 posts)scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)BSdetect
(8,998 posts)Chainfire
(17,526 posts)Part of his government financed campaign. Similar in nature to the renewed daily Corona briefings. (free press time)
milestogo
(16,829 posts)Captain Zero
(6,800 posts)won't surprise me none...
tinrobot
(10,893 posts)Won't work in Portland.
Besides, states have control over polling places. That would only work if states cede this power. Maybe in Florida or Georgia.
Blue Owl
(50,347 posts)n/t
cynical_idealist
(360 posts)for real
calimary
(81,194 posts)Yep. That's no exaggeration.
This whole trump "thing" is like a virus. A virus WORSE than COVID-19.
But there is an antidote, AND a vaccine, all rolled into one action:
VOTE, DAMMIT!
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)KPN
(15,642 posts)the protests are all part of the Democratic Party strategy to manipulate the election. Its bullshit! Its projection as usual. They are doing exactly what they project! Fucking insidious.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)And the populace is going to make that asshole eat his words.
The Wizard
(12,541 posts)The Republican underlying message (in Republican code) since Goldwater ran in 64 has been: "We'll keep the coloreds in their place."
iluvtennis
(19,844 posts)BadgerMom
(2,770 posts)This has been obvious to thinking people from the get. We Dems need action and a plan to fight their criminal corruption.
Mr.Bill
(24,274 posts)and change our tactics. They are all manned up for a fight in the streets, we should just disappear from the streets and leave them standing there by them selves all dressed up to play army with nobody to play with. Meanwhile, we do something different. Make it a cyber war. Or jam their radio transmissions. How about stop all deliveries to federal buildings. No local ID? No service at a restaurant. The possibilities are limitless.
The Mouth
(3,148 posts)Interesting ideas.
McKim
(2,412 posts)Just let go of the rope in this tug of war!
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)CaptainTruth
(6,583 posts)Trump's thugs would be all dressed up with nothing to do.
And it would take away the right wing media hysteria of "Antifa rioters & criminals."
Just leave all the armed thugs standing around with nothing to do. Honestly I think that's the best tactic, escalating the protests is just playing into Trump's hand, it's what he wants.
aggiesal
(8,910 posts)but you know that Pendejo45 in the WH will use that to his advantage.
He'll say in some ad, that he got the police to stop all the protesting. He's the Law & Order Pendejo.
I believe the tactic should be show up and just sit on the ground.
Make noise, be silent, doesn't matter. Just show up and sit. Occupy every space possible.
It's harder to use video of peaceful protesters being attacked by a para-military police force while sitting on the ground.
Just go and watch a para-military parade.
calimary
(81,194 posts)Have to out-think them and out-strategize them.
Especially as they spread. Like the "virus" they are.
plimsoll
(1,668 posts)Most corrupt election ever here we come.
He did promise us.
moondust
(19,972 posts)If nothing more than: "The Law and Order President or these crazy Antifa terrorists: The choice is yours on election day."
But it may be worse than that including possible intimidation/interference/other authoritarian tactics.
triron
(21,994 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)
to abruptly change tactics. No more demonstrations so it's eerily quiet.
Meantime, all efforts and resources and people should be bent towards TOV. The mom's and white allies can go with IPoc to register people, make sure they have polling place transport etc etc.
This would be sudden redirection for all outrage.
As soon as elections occur and Joe winsthey can go back to using the entire tool box.
Because this is escalating into a full blown RW coup. We need to out maneuver themnot just keep doing the very thing that allows them to shut down the whole country.
keithbvadu2
(36,747 posts)Militias as fake secret police
Mr.Bill
(24,274 posts)Most of the militia people I've seen would collapse from exhaustion if they put on all that gear and tried to walk more than half a block.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)Especially since we've already seen plenty of examples of the rw militia types parading around in military-looking camo outfits.
What's to stop them from joining in on the fun? The CPB guys are already right wing assholes themselves, they'd probably welcome the wannaabes' assistance.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)peggysue2
(10,828 posts)Trump has said repeatedly he wants to be the Law and Order President. What better way to realize that insignia than stir things up, throw your goons into "poorly governed" Democratic cities expecting pushback and demonstrating how unruly these cities truly are?
It's the same playbook: cry how terrible an issue is, go in make it worse, then leave the rubble behind while declaring a stunning (and false) win. Doesn't matter whether it's trade agreements, regulation, relationships with the world's dictators or . . . violence in American streets.
Same old, same old.
dickthegrouch
(3,172 posts)He can damned well stick those tiny hands out to be fitted for special handcuffs (preferably coated with superglue).
If hes prepared to submit to the law then hell have a chance of enforcing it. Otherwise its rank hypocrisy.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)against their fellow Americans.
Traitors to the core.
pazzyanne
(6,546 posts)I really hate these people, and that makes me sad. Hate is the foundation of the Republican party platform.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Imagine what our children would be turned into if they took over! The thought makes me want to throw up.
pazzyanne
(6,546 posts)I have nieces and nephews with school aged children. They don't seem to be focused on this at all. It worries me that what is happening at the present times seems to be flying under their radar.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Most people we encounter are not like we are here in DU. For me it was always a source of worry. They think we just spend too much time worrying and we should stop watching the news. Its scary when things are the way they are now.
Sogo
(4,986 posts)It's what they're PLANNING.
If the protesters really want to protest, they should stay miles away from the federal buildings and Trump's goons. Then Trump wouldn't have any footage to splash across Faux Tee Vee. "Law and Order Candidate," my arse....He's the sales and marketing candidate and this is what he's trying to sell now.....DON'T BUY IT!! And certainly DON'T PARTICIPATE IN IT!!!!
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)the property damage and violence necessary to create the pretext for the trumptroops to invade.
niyad
(113,232 posts)DallasNE
(7,402 posts)This is the distraction of the day. The ACLU has already filed action in the courts. That wheel turns slowly and may not be heard until after the November election.
The Supreme Court in the 1970's ruled that preventative detention is illegal so what Wolf is saying is clearly wrong. Also, the charter of the DHS does not permit the activity we are seeing. Tom Ridge, first Sec of DHS: The (DHS) department was established to protect America from the ever-present threat of global terrorism. It was not established to be the presidents personal militia.. So what we are seeing is another case of deflection because none of this can stand. Trump is just riling up his law & ORDER base and it has the benefit of deflecting away from the disaster called COVID-45, er 19.
What the "moms" in Portland are doing is quite effective so keep it up. Their numbers have swelled about 4-fold since the jack-booted thugs showed up so keep up that pressure. Naked Athena stopped them in their tracks too - but I am not advocating that. Just an example that other things work too.
I'm more for stay the course rather than abandon what is currently going on.
3Hotdogs
(12,366 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)All those angry stupid people will still be here and theyll be even angrier.
bucolic_frolic
(43,123 posts)Republicans are being nicknamed "Pubbies" on Twitter today ... I think it fits, little snowflakes, coddled, trodden upon, oppressed, and delinquent.
tiptonic
(765 posts)Could Benedict donalds next move be, to ask Putin for help in controlling our streets? Might as well, he gets away with everything else. Where can I find a Russian dictionary?
lunatica
(53,410 posts)with someone like Eric Prince who would suppress us right. Im sure Putin thinks Trump is a drooling idiot.
C_U_L8R
(44,997 posts)These bullshit overreaching tactics will, like everything else Trump does, fail miserably. But, also typical of Trump, many will be harmed in the process.