'Many victims' bodies found mutilated and bound, some discovered deliberately booby-trapped' (graphic)

[question everything]

“Many rape incidents occurred collectively, with collaboration among the perpetrating terrorists. In some cases, rape was conducted in front of an audience, such as partners, family, or friends, to increase the pain and humiliation for all present,” reads the first official report of the Association of Rape Crisis Centers in Israel regarding the Hamas attack on October 7.

“Some Hamas members pursued victims who escaped the massacre, dragging them by their hair with screams. The majority of victims were subsequently killed during or after the sexual assault.” Already in the first week following the attack, information about sexual assaults carried out during the assault began pouring into the Association of Rape Crisis Centers.

According to Dr. Carmit Klar-Chalamish and Noga Berger, the report's authors, “a significant portion of those we considered partners responded in silence and denial of these horrors. We call on you to raise your voices and not allow the cries of these victims to fade away.” The report, published Wednesday morning, analyzes dozens of classified and public pieces of information, including eyewitness and earwitness testimonies, interviews with rescue and medical teams, information cleared for publication in print and electronic media, and inquiries received by the association.

(snip)

“Information regarding sexual assaults in captivity has been published following the testimonies of those who returned from captivity. These testimonies include various cases, including those of captives who are still alive.” The report indicates that sexual crimes were systematically and deliberately committed during and after the October 7 terror attack, characterized by multiple assailants, assaults in front of family members, executions and accompanied by unique sadistic practices.

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https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sj62yy7na

[The Magistrate]

1. As You Can See, Sir, A Lot Of People Won't Take A Square Look At What The Fighting Arm Of The Cause They Support Does

[Hekate]

4. Denialists will be along shortly

[yardwork]

52. We have seen this since October 7, 2023.

[Behind the Aegis]

57. And just as common....

...those claiming they were "for it before they were against it" with the "it" being Israel. I have seen this stated by a number of people, many of whom seem to forget, a VERY simple search, well, doesn't quite line up with those who "loved/supported" Israel after the initial attack.

[yardwork]

59. I've seen the same. It's very obvious.

[betsuni]

2. K&R

[Cha]

3. MONSTERS 👹 👺

[Hekate]

5. KnR

[Iggo]

6. That's unforgivable.

[TeamProg]

7. Absolutely Horrifying! Inhumane and really fucking sick. Those who committed such atrocities should be held

accountable.

So, please explain, why probably more than 20,000 innocent women and children have to die? These 20,000 Palestinians, who had nothing to do with 10/7 just want to live their lives in peace, to not be occupied, not held within what is described as "an open-air prison",

WHY DID THEY ALL HAVE TO BE BOMBED SO INDISCRIMINATELY?

[question everything]

9. They have been used as human shields. There was a ceasefire on October 7

So calling now for a ceasefire what will be different?

I think that had the hostages been released sooner, much of this death and destruction could have been prevented. But at some point you say enough!

I hate to think that among the hostages some may be on their second trimester of pregnancy

[TeamProg]

20. "Human shields " is not an excuse for a supposedly civilized society to attack the innocent. Makes a

GREAT EXCUSE though.

I mean, really, that’s your excuse?

History will not be kind.

[SoFlaBro]

28. History will not be kind to the Hamas defender that has no problem with rape as a weapon of fucking war.

[EX500rider]

37. What's this magical war you can tell us about where no civilians died?

[The Magistrate]

10. You're Doing Better Than Most, Sir

Appeal to scale does not totally vitiate claims of humanitarian concern.

What you need to do, to follow through to being taken seriously, is to suggest some practical means of engaging an armed body of men eager to die for their cause who establish their positions alongside, beneath, or over the dwellings of the civilian populace, without doing harm to the unfortunate people the 'hard men' are using for cover.

[TeamProg]

21. I'm not a general, neither are you. I'm just a normal unpretentious person. I'm not pretending or

playing a Judge or lawyer or Dr. Are you?

But anyone with a brain and some military expertise could’ve come up with a better plan than bombing everyone til Kingdom Come.

Your reasoning is not reasonable.

History will not be kind.

[The Magistrate]

24. A Frank Confession Of Ignorance Is Honorable, At Least

I can see no reason to take seriously your insistence '...anyone with a brain and some military expertise could’ve come up with a better plan...'. Israel's armed forces are among the best in the world, directed by men at the top of the profession of arms. I am inclined to the view that skilled professionals do their best to achieve the objective set out by their government, which is in this instance the liquidation of Hamas. If you think they are doing something else, have the dignity, and respect for those you address, of stating openly what that is.


"They say war is an art but it's not. It mostly consists in outwitting people, robbing widows and orphans, and inflicting suffering on the helpless for one's own ends, and that's not art: That's business."

[EndlessWire]

31. Your post was interesting

in regards to "I am inclined to the view that skilled professionals do their best to achieve the objective set out by their government, which is in this instance the liquidation of Hamas." Are you sure about their intentions?

If, as you say, the IDF are professionals among the best, and that they are doing what their government mandates, then it kind of begs the question of what the true intent of Netanyahu really is. I am with the poster you replied to, because they IDF should have immediately gone to ground to root out the tunnels, which they knew about in advance. Instead, there was bombing of the above ground structures until they are rubble.

You can look at this strategy in two ways. First, destroy areas of refuge for those Hamas that emerge above ground. Second, avoid bottlenecks in tunnels where fighters can turn a situation into a corner of the attacking forces. It was hopeful when Israel ordered those citizens in the North to immediately vacate to the South. But, once the destruction in the North was completed, they continued to the South, leaving people with nowhere to go. It seems to me that it was careless and uncaring.

Perhaps the bombing of the infrastructure was only to eliminate the rockets that Hamas was shooting off. But, they have moved into a period where the destruction exceeds the need. A nation's military moves according to the leaders; maybe they said, make such and such happen, and left the details up to them. We don't know. But, all their commentary so far hasn't been inspiring. I think the idea of a professional, top notch military has flown the coop.

" If you think they are doing something else, have the dignity, and respect for those you address, of stating openly what that is." I really object to this comment! In no way does this disrespect anybody. I guess it's a good effort to suppress an opinion, but it doesn't wash here. And, impugning the honor of the poster is way out of line.

Being someone who totally supported Israel and now am critical of what they are doing, I can say that, IMO, Israel intends to erase the Palestinians, ie., genocide. My opinion is not arrived at because of the constant bleeding hearts in war, but is based on the actions of the IDF coupled with the commentary by those in charge of the IDF. Their endpoint is not acceptable.

It is surprising to me how quickly the lessons of history are forgotten. Perhaps it is naive of me, but Netanyahu is visiting on the Palestinians exactly what Hitler visited on the Jews. Nothing was learned, just humans being humans in the most disgusting way. How does that saying go? "Be careful when looking at the beast, lest the beast look into you." Something like that. I guess I expected more than this animal reaction.

Perhaps there is no good answer. But, the larger picture for Israel is, who is going to associate with them after they have eliminated Palestinians and occupied their territory? That's not going to be over in a day, a week, or decades. So, it's piss poor professionalism.

[The Magistrate]

34. So Your View Is Israel Is Engaged In Genocide

There was, with the person I addressed, some point to teasing out whether or not that was his view, as he did not state it clearly.

You have, though you expended a good deal of verbiage to get there. I regard people who stand up and openly state malignant nonesense differently than those who shroud it. Shrouding indicates there is some possibility a person is ashamed, and so redemption is at least conceivable. It can indicate forensic skill, but no sign of that was shown.

I don't see any point in further engagement with you here, past a comment of yours on a post below regarding LeMay's campaign against Japan. The point being made was some illustration of what an actual campaign of extermination would look like, and what it could achieve. But I expect you knew that....


"War is cruelty, it cannot be refined."

[EndlessWire]

38. You are very judgmental.

No one has to testify to you. When you are insulting, you are not "teasing" out info.

[The Magistrate]

39. I Certainly Am

Make no bones about it either, and don't give the north end of a southbound rat what you think of it, or of me.

[question everything]

41. Have you read your comments before posting?

Just two point: there are millions of Palestinians outside of Gaza. Killing many of them will not eliminate them, no “genocide.”

Two I don’t remember Jews attacking, killing and brutally raping German people. So to claim that Israel is doing to the Palestinians “exactly” what Hitler did to the Jews is a bit of a stretch, don’t you think?

[EndlessWire]

42. It's really not your business.

No, it's not much of a stretch. And, you're not thinking straight. You just want to jump in to defend what the IDF is doing.

No one is more protective than I am. I learned Hebrew 40 years ago, studied Judaism, and did comparative religions back when I gave a damn. None of that matters now. I am a little more circumspect, pay a little more attention to the fuller picture. My previous comments on the situation were completely sympathetic to Israel.

But now, they seem to have lost direction. It isn't a matter that there is collateral damage. It is because their stated plans for Gaza after the war is over indicate that they are going to take over Palestinian territories with the intent of repopulation with Israelis. This will only lead to even more violence. It makes no sense, and most of the civilized world is of the opinion that the two state solution is the pathway to take.

No one is telling Israel to shake hands with the Palestinians. They can hate each others guts, just so long as there is no war going on. If they want my tax dollar, they need to express an intent consistent with a desire to end the war without occupation. Period.

I don't give a fuck what you think. If you think I was not horrified by what Hamas did, you are wrong. I have been consistent with my opinion that Hamas has got to go, the same as those stupid Houthis have got to quit what they are doing.

Jews suffered greatly during WW2, not by fighting, but through being vilified and murdered for just their nationality, much like they are now doing to the Palestinians. Sorry if you don't understand that. It's one thing to fight because they were attacked, which they had an absolute right to do, but it's another to plan to remove, annihilate, and reduce whole populations who have no place to go. Look how important it was to Jews to have their own home. How quickly they have forgotten.

I fully support the extermination of Hamas in Gaza and the WB. But, that's not what I am hearing from Netanyahu's cabinet. You don't build 3300 new houses for Israelis in territory reserved for Palestinians. That's not a reasonable response. That's territory grabbing. That's theft.

I'm outta this thread, so the floor is yours.

[sarisataka]

11. You are now accepting

That sexual assaults occurred?

[edhopper]

12. Could we have defeated Germany

without civilian casualties?

[TeamProg]

14. Seriously? Really? there is NO comparison! Hitler was armed with $ and innovation, the Nazis invaded Poland,

France, demanded Austria and Hungary join in, headed toward Russia and invaded smaller nations. Started bombing England with the highest tech V2 rockets.

If Hamas had that fire-power, they would not have perpetrated a 10/7. Israel would have been HIT far, far harder.

Think about it, NO COMPARISON.

[edhopper]

15. So how does Isreal

get rid of Hamas?

[The Magistrate]

16. So Your Solution Is Arm Hamas To The Teeth And See How They Do Then

Worth pointing out Nazi Germany was well-armed indeed, and in that position of military strength indulged in murder and torture on an industrial scale. A full suite of weaponry is no insurance against its possessor utilizing it in atrocious wise. Indeed, your 'Israel would have been HIT far, far harder' suggests you think that is exactly what Hamas would do with a full panoply of modern weaponry....

[TeamProg]

22. Not at all , those are your words. IF Hamas had that kind of firepower there would not have been an occupation,

an open air prison or Palestinian workers clamoring for permits to work for bottom dollar in Israeli controlled cities. I mean, duh, seriously?

The entire Germany WW2 comparison is truly bonkers and only proves the ignorance of those who suggest that. Not You Of Course, Sir.

Netanyahu just wants to beat up those who he can. Pretty obvious once you think about it for, oh, maybe two seconds?

[The Magistrate]

25. These Are Your Words, Sir

"If Hamas had that fire-power, they would not have perpetrated a 10/7. Israel would have been HIT far, far harder."

Hamas has declared it intends killing all Jews, they get a little wobbly about whether this means every Jew everywhere, or just Jews in Israel, or just Jews in Israel who can't trace direct descent from a Jew resident there a century ago. So we have their own statement of purpose, and know what they would do with the full power of a conventional army.

I was kind, and overlooked your inane words on the Second World War, but will no longer forgo the amusement they offer.

"The Nazis invaded Poland, France, demanded Austria and Hungary join in, headed toward Russia and invaded smaller nations. Started bombing England with the highest tech V2 rockets."

Austria had been incorporated into Germany years before the invasion of Poland.

Hungary was a willing ally of Hitler, so was Romania, making their allegiance clear during the period when the Hitler-Stalin Pact was in force.

Most of the smaller nations invaded were invaded either just before France (Denmark, Norway), or en route to it (Holland, Belgium, Luxembourg). Yugoslavia was invaded en route to Greece, to rescue Mussolini from difficulties there. All smaller nations invaded were assailed prior to invasion of Russia, in which Hungary, Romania, and Italy joined willingly.

On the fall of France, Germany and England engaged in the first 'all-air' battle fought. Most of the damage of the German campaign came in its latter stages, once the Germans had turned to bombing by night. This effort ebbed away with the invasion of Russia. The 'V-weapons', of which the V2 was one, were a late development, and did no significant harm by compare to the Blitz of early years. (Others were the V1, a sort of somewhat programmed drone precursor, and a V3 'super cannon' wrecked by bombing before its completion).

The bombing of Germany by the RAF at night was not strictly a military operation. The people of England wanted Germans hit, after being on the receiving end of it awhile, and this was the only way to do it to any effect. The bombers were doing well if their bombs struck a city, let alone a particular point in it, and this was rationalized by deciding the aim was to disrupt production of arms as much by killing and frightening workers as by striking the plants and railway marshalling yards, some of which by brute chance must be hit in course of a large raid. But the commanders were clear among themselves they were just killing people, because there wasn't anything else they could do. As a side note, not worth going into, Harris, commander of Bomber Command, had risen to high rank in the Middle East, participating in 'air control' operations in Iraq, and commanding them in Palestine during the late thirties.

What is worth a side note is that at the outbreak of the war, both sides were quite punctilious in confining air attacks to strictly military objects, with even Germany at the start keeping up appearances in the West (Warsaw was another matter, but fell in current definitions of a fortified city). This was what the Hague conventions dictated. President Roosevelt at the outbreak of the war declared the United States would look on belligerents disregarding the Hague restrictions on air attack with disfavor. Within about six months, they were a dead letter, on both sides.

[lostnfound]

29. The US burned or suffocated 100,000 overnight in Tokyo

Mostly women and children, in Shitamachi. With flaming gels raining from the sky, and a giant fire ball that sucked the oxygen from the air.

Until the Israelis have killed that many, I have nothing to judge them for.

War sucks.

I don’t think they are there yet.

[EndlessWire]

32. Really?

"Until the Israelis have killed that many, I have nothing to judge them for." Good grief...

[WDLAL]

17. Because their fathers, sons, brothers, grandsons, cousins friends and neighbors went out and savaged many innocent

Israelis and then came back to hide among them. That's why so many innocent Palestinians have died.

[TeamProg]

23. 1,200 vs 30,000. Yep, that's about right. Got it.

History will not be kind.

[The Magistrate]

26. Sometimes I Do Despair, Sir

War is not some sporting event, where dead people are points, and at some juncture 'enough' have been accumulated so the war ends. But that does seem to be how many guide their understanding of it.

War is the attempt of one party to a dispute to impose by violence what it cannot secure by purchase or reason. It ends when the party first resorting to violence secures its object against the violent objection of the other, or acknowledges its violence has failed to do so, and ceases to fight.

In war one does not so much strive to kill people in order to end their lives, as one kills people to convince other people they'll be next if they don't give up, or flee, or at the very least keep their heads down a while.

It is true that if one party to a war fields a soldiery who actively courts death, killing a good deal more is required than in the average run: such soldieries are not common to history.

It is also obvious that such a death-desiring soldiery, establishing itself in facilities and fighting positions beside, under, or over the dwellings of non-combatants, is going get a great many persons killed in course of war against them, who will suffer for no better reason than that they were in the way of people fighting the men here to fight till they died.

I suppose you might say that is worth it, if you favor the resolution of the dispute they are contending for, certainly no one opposed to it would agree.

If people do take up for a side which fields soldiery of this sort, and disposes them in that manner, they ought at least to be clear about what the goal actually sought by that side is.

That's something a good many people aren't at all clear on....

[SoFlaBro]

27. History will not be kind to those that sweep aside sexual assault, rape, and slicing babies' throats.

[WDLAL]

30. Countries don't generally respond to an attack by setting out to kill an equal number of people.

Nor do they care how people in the future will judge their actions. Israel is attempting to make sure their innocent people won't be savaged again by Hamas. Unfortunately for the innocent Palestinians, their savage sons, grandsons, fathers, brothers, cousins, friends and neighbors hide among them, resulting in deaths of yet more innocents.

[EndlessWire]

33. Well, we all get that

but the point here is not that there are casualties of war, but the apparent fact that genocide is occurring with the intent of taking over the Palestinian territories. The consensus of most of those that have international experience and knowledge is that a two state solution is preferable and is a pathway to peace that could work, without a genocide.

[WDLAL]

40. The poster to whom I responded doesn't seem to get that.

Genocide is not occurring, because Israel is attempting to destroy a savage terrorist group. The number of people killed is due to those savages hiding themselves among their own mothers, wives, (women) fathers, sons, daughters, (children) brothers, sisters (women and/or children) friends and neighbors.

Of course a two state solution is needed. But only if neither of the governments is made up of people whose stated goal is elimination of the other.

[yagotme]

45. Now, convince Hamas of this...

The consensus of most of those that have international experience and knowledge is that a two state solution is preferable and is a pathway to peace that could work, without a genocide.

Israel DID NOT START this current war. It was started by the cowardly attack by Hamas.

[RandomNumbers]

35. The hostages have not been returned, and the rapists and murderers have not been turned over to courts.

Who is Hamas? Why did they have control in Gaza?

The truly innocent victims in Palestine, are victims of Hamas. When Hamas surrenders and returns the hostages, makes reparations to the families, and turn over their war criminals to the courts, then we can talk about what Israel can and should do to help "innocent" Gazans recover.

Gazans chose Hamas as their leaders. They made a terrible mistake. Now Gaza needs to turn on Hamas and turn them over to justice. It really is that simple. Short of instigating a World War - which may yet happen - there was never any plausible expectation that Hamas could win a war with Israel. So what, pray tell, was the purpose of October 7th? (I'm sure it had absolutely nothing to do with it being a presidential election year in the U.S. Nope, couldn't be.)

[obamanut2012]

44. Why do you say "innocent" Gazans? Why the scare quotes?

[RandomNumbers]

49. Rapists and murderers, or their family members.

It is fair to say that I am not necessarily responsible for the acts of my family members. But I am not automatically innocent if my son rapes and murders.

Why do liberals - and we are liberals here, are we not? - argue for locking up the parents of a child that picks up a gun and shoots someone? Or if it is not a case supporting locking up the parents, we are first to same something about an apple not falling far from a tree, or they must have learned their awfulness from their parents.

Please understand, if we allow Trump to be re-elected in the U.S., and then there are bloody consequences, I do own some of the fault for allowing it to happen. Gazans elected Hamas. They and their supporters are SILENT on demanding the release of the hostages.

"Cease Fire NOW" is the slogan. Why not, "Release the Hostages NOW"? Why not, "Submit the Rapists to Justice, NOW"?

It really is bizarre.

[TeamProg]

47. And the illegal invasion by settlers is still happening. So.. your point?

History will not be kind.

[RandomNumbers]

48. So why not defend their land against the settlers? Why indiscriminately rape and torture tourists?

History will not be kind, indeed.

There are effective forms of resistance (see: India freedom from Britain), and ineffective - possibly DELIBERATELY ineffective - forms.

Who benefits from stoking the hatred and blood letting? But it seems you will blame the victims.

[TeamProg]

50. The resistance from citizens was not unlike other terrorist techniques. Citizens or freedom fighters of British colonies

would sneak up on distracted, unsuspecting Brit soldiers and stab them in the neck or back. And not unlike the Taliban, rebels would destroy British built infrastructure and other drivers of exploitation. That kind of guerrilla warfare went on and on. Brits lost soldier after soldier and investment after investment. The revolt was subtle, but effective.

Hamas took a more deliberate strike but Hamas' reasons were not unlike the reasoning of other occupied and oppressed peoples.

Funny thing is that anyone with no connection to Israel, political or otherwise, all seem to say that the IDF's response to 10/7 was over the top, then add indiscriminate bombing and starving the population.

I supported Israel initially after 10/7, but then the bombing and killing of Gazans never stopped!

I have no "skin" in this game other than to expect honor and decency from a U.S. ally that we give the MOST foreign aid to - by a long shot. Israel's potential war crimes have brought the U.S. and Biden to a difficult place and are potentially HELPING Trump. I am not Palestinian or Muslim, just an Atheist and third generation immigrant of Danish and English descent.

[thucythucy]

54. Citizens or freedom fighters of British colonies

attacked music festivals and then raped and mutiliated civilian concert goers, including children? Please provide an instance of this, I'm curious to see where you got this particular piece of information.

"Sneaking up on an unsuspecting soldier" is different from gang raping and then murdering civilians, yes? "The British lost soldier after soldier..." Are you actually equating that sort of guerilla warfare, with what Hamas did on October 7th? Seriously?

BTW, the most successful campaign against British colonialism, certainly in terms of scale, was the Satyagraha led by Gandhi, Nehru and Co. This was mostly non-violent and didn't involve stabbing British soldiers, unsuspecting or otherwise. It certainly didn't call for the murder of every British person in India, not to mention every British person in the world. Nor did it deliberately provoke memories of a past genocide of British people.

Surely you must see the difference?

[TeamProg]

55. Read the full thread.

[thucythucy]

58. I did.

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What precisely do the atrocities on October 7 have to do with resistance of settlers on the West Bank, if that is the point you're trying to make?

And what does October 7 have to do with attacks on British soldiers during any anti-colonialist struggle?

I'm not the only one here asking questions which you seemingly refuse to address.

Read the full thread and you'll see.

[yagotme]

43. Ah, the "open air prison" argument again...

You know, there are only 3 "walls" to this "prison", and Israel is responsible for only 2 of them. Gaza's southern border is with Egypt, a fellow Arabic nation, right? So, why did Egypt build a wall there? Was it at Israel's request? Riiigghhhtt. Or, Israel just built a wall there anyway, without Egypt knowing about it...

Why are they being bombed? Because their government refuses to surrender, lay down their arms, release the hostages, refrain from firing rockets at Israel, not abiding cease fires, and using their own civilian population as human shields.

[Zeitghost]

8. Nothing justifies this...

That is all.

[mcar]

13. Sickening

There is no excuse or justification for this barbarity.

This is not freedom fighting. Hamas is not Mandela. Can we at least agree that these barbaric terrorists should be held responsible for this atrocity?

[question everything]

18. And this is really the tragedy of Gaza. It became an independent state in 2007

And instead of building a blooming jewel at the shores of the Mediterranean, replacing war torn Lebanon as a place of free trade free tax, a tourist attraction like Monaco - same area - it chose to become a center of terror, relying on funds from Egypt, Qatar, Iran and others.

All the while terrorizing its own population stealing foreign aid, diverting it to build tunnels and bunkers and supporting the leaders and families in luxurious life style away from the misery that they created.

[The Magistrate]

19. Quite True, Sir

The place could have been Singapore on the Levantine coast, a rebuke to any certain a Palestinian government could not exist in peace with its neighbors.

[TheKentuckian]

36. That would be essentially seen as failure across the board

Israel still standing or even doing well at peace.

A worldly population exposed to a huge variety of people will tend secular and tolerant.

Folks with occupations, thriving families, and resources that extend beyond subsistence get hard to rile up on grievances to the point of active bloodlust and even if they do go in that direction still tend not to be so adamant that they are inclined to turnover their own apple carts over it.

Being such a jewel of commerce and tourism would mean falling in with the west.

It is tough to maintain a cohesive culture of a nation of martyrs in such a space, this would upend the whole way of life and societal purpose.

[LexVegas]

46. "freedom fighter" supporters are gonna be real salty....nt

[Joinfortmill]

51. Remember who & how they started this horror.

[Traildogbob]

53. It's damn good

Thing the Russians are not committing these atrocities to women children and seniors in their genocidal take over of Ukraine. Or they would be taking on the wrath of social media and uncommitted voters standing with Ukraine,
And the GQP politicians would be condemning Putin as harshly as NettiYahoo by Pro Palestinians (And Netti deserves it all, but Putin needs equal condemnation) not praise from the likes of Trump, Paul and Tuckums.
While we all sit safely in our homes and fight for who does it worse in Our opinions on our key pads.
We don’t raise an eyebrow to the same happening in countries of black women and children from cartels.
Sick and brutal atrocities are going on world wide, but according to evilgelicals, it’s all God’s plan.
Working in strange ways. Our species is evil. Really do not deserve the stay on this planet.
A “just” God would end those committing the atrocities. As we were promised in Sunday School if we bought in.
Ever notice when you misspell “God” there is never an auto correct that comes back with GOD?
Hmmmmmm! Is there no such word, or sky wizard?
Unfortunately in America, less that 5 percent of the population have ever seen war brutality in person. Or ever will. So many damaged souls at the VA I go to for medical help, HAVE seen it. It’s burned into the mind and soul. You can see the scares in their blank stares while waiting for appointments.
Think about those veterans while we slam each other here over who is right or wrong committing these hell on earth atrocities. It’s all wrong. It’s all sick. And we elect people that promote it for pure political gain, while holding the BuyBull upside down.
And He allows it.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

56. Thank you for posting this