Americans who practice the Jewish faith are Americans...not Israelis..

[Peacetrain]

Americans who practice the Muslim faith are Americans.. not Hamas!! or Iraqis or Iranians etc etc.. they are Americans

Now can you get some dip shits (excuse my language).. in either of those faiths who are dangerous.. well of course you can.. just like certain Christian sects (of which I am a member) can be dangerous to the public.. cue Jim Jones or any off the edge right wing Nazi group who use Christianity as an excuse to attack other..

Now I was questioned the other day about a op I put up wondering if Maga could use the campus demonstrations to attack the left.. Of course they can and are..

So it is up to all in the demonstrations to understand they cannot tolerate attacks verbal or otherwise against the other group..

We are all Americans.. and lets start at that point..

[shrike3]

1. What I've said repeatedly.

Intelligent people can differentiate between the actions of a nation across the ocean and Jewish Americans trying to live their lives.

[yardwork]

2. A Jewish American has chosen to live in America.

Aside from everything else, it makes zero sense to attack American Jews for what Israel is doing.

[Mossfern]

5. Not all Jewish Americans have dual citizenship

From what I've read, there are about 200,000 with dual citizenship out of 7.6 million people of the Jewish faith in the US. So a minority.

[Raftergirl]

7. Perhaps he is confusing dual citizenship with the right of return.

As for choosing to live in the US, my ancestors have been here since 1880 and all were here by 1900.

[Mossfern]

9. Mine as well

both my mother and father's side.

My maternal grandparents refused to talk about the "old country" and considered themselves Americans first and foremost.

on edit:
My grandfather worked as a machinist at the Brooklyn Navy Yard making American weapons.

[Sky Jewels]

4. Also

criticizing the actions of Netanyahu and the Israeli government isn’t hate towards all Jews, just as criticizing Hamas’ actions isn’t hate towards all Muslims.

[Raftergirl]

8. A sizable proportion of Jews (including me) despise Bibi and his government.

[Sky Jewels]

17. Yes!

I get so angry when some DUers purposely conflate anti-Netanyahu/anti-Israeli government statements with antisemitism in an attempt to silence anyone speaking out against the brutal genocide in Gaza. One reason is that that bullshit acts as a "boy who cried wolf" dilution of efforts to combat REAL anti-semitism.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

6. American Jews do not support Bibi and the actions being taken in Gaza

I was the lone Jewish precinct chair in my county and I used to joke that I had more in common with the Muslim precinct chairs than with some of the christian precinct chairs. American Jews and American Muslims are both Americans

[MurrayDelph]

11. When the orange dick-tater started his Muslim band

This secular Jew went to the Muslim market in Portland and bought cookies for the nearest mosque.

[Celerity]

21. Haaretz Editorial Board: AIPAC Is the pro-Netanyahu, anti-Israel Lobby

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-08-14/ty-article-opinion/aipac-is-the-pro-netanyahu-anti-israel-lobby/00000189-f4dc-d975-a9cf-ffdf38d80000

https://archive.ph/Ldoya

AIPAC is an American lobbying organization whose stated goal is to strengthen the Israeli-American relationship. The problem is that over the years, the organization has begun to work against its own stated goal by becoming the long arm of Benjamin Netanyahu in American politics. AIPAC members stood at his side in his fights against former President Barack Obama, including when Netanyahu addressed Congress in 2015 just two weeks before an Israeli election, a speech that caused enormous damage to the Israeli-American relationship.

Before U.S. Congressional elections last year, AIPAC announced its support for dozens of Republican candidates who denied the results of America’s 2020 presidential election and refused to accept President Joe Biden’s victory. AIPAC thereby effectively turned support for Israel into a mechanism for whitewashing former President Donald Trump and Trumpism. And all of this, of course, was done in the service of Netanyahu’s political interests.

In recent months, the organization’s affiliation with Netanyahu has grown even stronger, after it volunteered to help him soften opposition within the Democratic Party to his government’s legal overhaul. This help included flying 24 Democratic members of Congress to Israel so that Netanyahu could mollify them with lies and assure them that Israel would “remain a liberal democracy.” This event revealed AIPAC’s true face. It claims that it doesn’t take any position on internal Israeli political disputes, but in practice, it is helping Netanyahu in his battle to destroy democracy.

Effectively, the organization has become an operational wing of Netanyahu’s far-right government, one that peddles a false image of a liberal Israel in the United States and sells illusions to members of Congress. AIPAC’s willingness to abandon the fight over Israel’s character and lend a hand to it becoming alienated from its “shared values” with America obliges us to ask whether it is truly contributing to American-Israeli relations or serving as a vehicle for their destruction.

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[Iggo]

10. Americans and anyone else who support the Israeli occupation...

…and the current and prior obliterations of the people of Gaza are not supporting those things as an act of practicing the Jewish faith.

So I guess we’re good, then.

[Mosby]

12. The Jewish faith requires self defense

Jews are not pacifists, so when Hamas in Gaza repeatedly attacked Israel the Israelis fought back.

[Oneironaut]

13. I bet Hamas thinks the Muslim faith "requires self defense" too.

This war is where this delusional kind of thinking leads us - “Our religion is under attack, and, therefore, any and all atrocities committed by us are actually justified because God is on our side and we’re protecting our religion!”

When does the tit-for-tat end? When one side completely genocides the other side?

[Mosby]

14. Defending oneself is hardly "delusional thinking".

And defending one's country really doesn't have much to do with religion. Israel just wants to live in peace but the Arabs simply won't let them. Iran (a Muslim theocracy) created and funds multiple terrorist orgs who exist only to destroy the Jewish state, and all the other countries surrounding Israel allow jihadists to roam free. Right now in Egypt jihadists are burning down coptic churches and homes, there is a real fear of genocide. The military dictatorship so far hasn't done shit, nor has this been posted about on DU for whatever reason.

Eta: https://www.newarab.com/news/extremists-set-fire-christian-homes-southern-egypt

[questionseverything]

18. Sorry but stealing land through illegal settlements is hardly wanting to live in peace

[Mosby]

20. If the Palestinians had accepted one of the 1/2 dozen proposals to create a country

The "settler" homes would be in Palestine instead of disputed territory, and the Palestinians would be collecting property tax etc.

Right now there is no Palestinian land, because the leaders of the Palestinians have refused to reach an agreement with Israel.

I happen to think that the settlement project was a bad idea in concept, but I also generally support the idea that Judea and Samaria should be pluralistic, not another ME country that won't allow Jewish/Christian/Druze etc citizens.

[Eko]

19. Most people want to live in peace.

Actions like this do not lead to people living in peace though.
"Israel’s far-right finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich, announced the seizure of 10 square kilometers (3.8 square miles) of Palestinian territory in the West Bank on Friday. The move marks the single largest land seizure by the Israeli government since the 1993 Oslo accords, according to Peace Now, a settlement watchdog group."
"Israeli settlements in the West Bank are considered illegal under international law. Still, Israel has used land orders like the one issued Friday to gain control over 16 percent of Palestinian-controlled lands in the West Bank. "

This is in no way a defense of the terrorists Hama's or any other terror groups but what Israel is doing is illegal. For myself I think things get worse when you illegally take others lands and no one does anything about it. 16 percent of Palestinian-controlled lands in the West Bank. That's huge.

[Elessar Zappa]

16. It's not about Judaism.

Many Jews and Israelis are atheist, agnostic, or otherwise secular. It’s about defending their home.

[Ping Tung]

15. Both sides are (allegedly) fighting and killing each other to protect

their land and their version of an allegedly all powerful God who needs protecting.

They have yet to evolve enough to figure out a way to find sensible solutions to disputes.