'Boeing cargo plane forced to land at Istanbul without front landing gear Incident involving Boeing 767 jet...'

[Joinfortmill]

Last edited Wed May 8, 2024, 12:20 PM - Edit history (3)

https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/may/08/boeing-cargo-plane-forced-to-land-at-istanbul-without-front-landing-gear

My comments: Another one bites the dust. Feds should take them over. They've become too dangerous. This whole fucking mess is about fucking greed. Note: I stand by my opinion, but given the comments, I felt it best to print the entire article. Three different planes are mentioned in this article: 787, 767, 737. End my comments.

"A Boeing cargo plane has been forced to land at Istanbul airport without its front landing gear, in the latest setback for the embattled planemaker...Nobody was hurt in the incident, in a flight operated by the delivery company FedEx, according to Turkey’s transport ministry...The Boeing 767 aircraft, flying from Paris Charles de Gaulle airport on Wednesday, informed the traffic control tower at Istanbul airport that its landing gear had failed to open and it landed with guidance from the tower, the ministry said.

Emergency services were standing by for the landing. The ministry did not give a reason for the landing gear’s failure and said its teams were conducting examinations at the scene as part of an investigation...Video of the incident shows the plane’s back wheels touching down, followed by its fuselage, with sparks and smoke streaming from its underside. The plane then skids to a halt, remaining on the runway...The runway has been temporarily closed to air traffic, but traffic on the other runways at the airport was continuing without interruption, the airport operator IGA said.

The incident comes at a time when Boeing’s safety record is under intense scrutiny, after a string of crises and safety issues...Boeing on Tuesday said it had informed regulators about possible failures to carry out mandatory safety inspections on its 787 Dreamliner planes. The US regulator, the Federal Aviation Administration, said it was “investigating whether Boeing completed the inspections and whether company employees may have falsified aircraft records”.

It followed separate allegations by a whistleblowing engineer that Boeing took shortcuts to reduce production bottlenecks while making the 787...The US manufacturer pledged this year to turn around its safety culture after a door panel blew out of an Alaska Airlines 737 Max plane in mid-air in January...Boeing had been trying to ramp up production of the 737 Max, its bestselling model, to move beyond the crisis triggered by two deadly crashes in 2018 and 2019. 737 Max planes were grounded worldwide for the best part of two years.

FedEx was approached for comment on Wednesday’s incident. Boeing declined to comment."

[Delphinus]

1. Wow!

The pilots did well with that.

And agree that Boeing has become too dangerous.

[getagrip_already]

2. This sounds a lot more like a maintenance issue than a build issue.....

Just saying. Nose gears require a lot of maintenance. They are replaceable items.

Wait for the engineering report.

[ProfessorGAC]

13. That's What I Think, Too

They started making cargo versions of this plane nearly 20 years ago. The most up to date variant of this cargo model was launched 10 years ago.
They still make them, so this plane could be new. Bur, it's more likely this plane is 3 to 20 years old.
That suggests to me that it's maintenance not design.

[turbinetree]

3. This is not a Boeing Issue this is whoever was working on that plane............

[Johnny2X2X]

4. 100% this

This is a maintenance issue. The maintenance on a plane like this is extensive, and landing gear needs constant maintenance.

[turbinetree]

5. I have worked on planes or over 25 years and built a strategic bomber aircraft and if someone did something

wrong on lets say swinging a gear or kept the landing gear pin in that gear, that is not Boeing's fault............when ever we swung a gear we had to log in the logbook that we had used the gear pins and they were installed.........and prior to flight we had to write off that we had removed the pins............it was that simple.............and if the pilots didn't look at the book prior to flight .............that is inexcusable.
Boeing has issues with them putting a bean counter in charge and now has left and all parties in involved with what is happening now and I mean all parties all the way up to the FAA but if someone screws up then they and all of them need to be held accountable............

[Happy Hoosier]

6. As a wrench turner, you no-doubt have some stories of maintenance screw-ups

Unless this plane is relatively new (unlikely, but possible), this is almost certainly a maintenence issue, not a manufacturing issue.

[turbinetree]

7. I have seen a lot...........and I have had the FAA follow me around when doing an A Check, Service Check

or even Pre-flight..........and has for that tire coming off the United plane...........that was maintenance not following the maintenance manual procedure...........amazing

[Happy Hoosier]

10. Yep. I once had a flight CANX'd at the last minute....

... because the pilot doing the pre-flight walk-around saw a loose screw in the air intake. OOPS.

[Bobstandard]

8. The 767 is not the 787

The last paragraph in OP has little to do with the preceding ones.

[brooklynite]

9. Before over-ranting about this.....

...the Boeing 767 design is 40 years old and has a solid safety record. Sometimes accidents happen.

[Zeitghost]

11. Almost assuredly a maintenance issue

The 767 has been in service for over 40 years. If there was a systemic problem with the nose gear, we would know about it.

[Liberal In Texas]

12. Video:

Good job by the crew.