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There's A GOP Plan For An Execution Spree If Trump Wins The White House
Buried on page 554 of the plan is a directive to execute every remaining person on federal death row and dramatically expand the use of the death penalty.
By Jessica Schulberg
May 9, 2024, 05:45 AM EDT
During the final six months of Donald Trumps presidency, his administration carried out an unprecedented execution spree, killing 13 people on federal death row and ending a 17-year de facto federal execution moratorium.
Shortly after Joe Biden entered the White House, the Justice Department formally reinstated the federal execution moratorium and announced a sweeping policy review. But despite Bidens campaign promise to work to end the federal death penalty, there has been little progress toward that goal.
Meanwhile, Trump, the GOPs presumptive 2024 presidential nominee, has openly fantasized about executing drug dealers and human traffickers. He reportedly suggested that officials who leak information to the press should be executed, too. And behind the scenes, theres a team of pro-Trump conservatives who are pushing for a second Trump term that involves even more state-sponsored killing than the first.
Last year, a coalition effort by conservative groups known as Project 2025 released an 887-page document that lays out policy goals and recommendations for each part of the federal government. Buried on page 554 is a directive to execute every remaining federal death row prisoner and to persuade the Supreme Court to expand the types of crimes that can be punished with death sentences.
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BoRaGard
(396 posts)oldsoftie
(12,766 posts)the Bible doesn't condemn the death penalty.
NanaCat
(2,028 posts)The deity demands murder, mass murder and genocide, on a regular basis.
Aristus
(66,689 posts)"Thou Shalt Not Kill" really means 'thou shalt not murder', unless it's war, or unless it's the death penalty, or unless, of course, you really want to.
Fairly shitty set of commandments, if you ask me.
ScratchCat
(2,049 posts)It's a mis-translation of a word that really means the intentional taking of life with no justification. You don't have to agree with the Bible or the commandment to understand what its saying from a historical or cultural standpoint.
JoseBalow
(2,863 posts)Zeitghost
(3,930 posts)Murder is always wrong. Killing is sometimes justified in situations that require violence to protect innocent victims from those trying to harm/kill them.
I won't weigh in on how that biblical principle applies to the death penalty which I support in theory but not in practice.
JoseBalow
(2,863 posts)I understand the difference between "kill" and "murder"
Zeitghost
(3,930 posts)The literal translation is "Thou shall not murder".
JoseBalow
(2,863 posts)There is a word, in the bible, it is the source word in question, and that word has been supposedly mistranslated. That would be the word that is being "translated", correctly or not, from the source material.
Which word has the ambiguous meaning?
n/t
JoseBalow
(2,863 posts)תִרְצַח means "murder", not "kill", which is a different word.
oldsoftie
(12,766 posts)The "Thou shall not kill" is simply a falsehood repeated over & over even though its NOT what is said. I'm not the one who brought the Bible into the conversation I merely replied to someone who did
jmowreader
(50,665 posts)And it specifically says to kill anyone you think worships Molech, anyone caught screwing a sheep, anyone you think fucked one of about eight different relatives, anyone you catch working on the Sabbath so what is it, thou shalt not kill except about half of everyone you know?
Elessar Zappa
(14,213 posts)So the meaning of the commandment is irrelevant to the discussion.
oldsoftie
(12,766 posts)And since we love to be moral on DU why be surprised its brought up/
Elessar Zappa
(14,213 posts)I was just wondering why it was brought up.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,569 posts)These psychopath zealots will insert religion into every aspect of government its in project 2025.
oldsoftie
(12,766 posts)Diraven
(579 posts)Exactly what's murder and what's not murder?
oldsoftie
(12,766 posts)And as another person noted, we aren't supposed to make law based on religion.
Crunchy Frog
(26,743 posts)Borh Biblically, and under secular law.
Ping Tung
(882 posts)Irish_Dem
(49,562 posts)No other reason.
Think. Again.
(9,483 posts)and cruelty with immense suffering.
Irish_Dem
(49,562 posts)They get off on it.
The more suffering the better.
Pure evil.
lees1975
(3,989 posts)Are the Democrats at the DNC taking this seriously? We're six months out and playing the election campaign pretty passively from where I sit. This guy needs to be convicted of all charges before the nomination, how do strings get pulled to achieve this?
Wednesdays
(17,624 posts)Pull strings to get a conviction? How would you like it if that applied to a prominent Democrat?
Farmer-Rick
(10,302 posts)To be a hair's breath away from a mass killing spree, then for those who stand against fascism to pull some strings?
The stinking Nazi loves to kill. Look how he allowed all those Americans to die from COVID when other countries never got such a large percentage of deaths. The US death toll from COVID exceeded that of peer nations.
His plan is not to just kill current death row inmates but to gather up political enemies too.
Liberals in Germany played by the rules too. That didn't stop those Nazis and it's not going to stop these Nazis either. It's time to stack the deck.
NanaCat
(2,028 posts)On what Democrats are doing to fight back.
That can look a lot like passivity to someone who can't distinguish the difference.
Takket
(21,829 posts)a "deeply held tradition" or some such nonsense to justify it all in the majority opinion. if drumpf is elected, with a court that ignores all constitutional law in favor of doing whatever the heritage foundation donors tell them to do, kiss America goodbye.
DBoon
(22,483 posts)gab13by13
(21,804 posts)Buried by the MSM, only Huffing Paste covering it?
Will the Magats do away with the appeals process for those on death row, apparently so.
Kristi Noem can be the executioner.
underpants
(183,368 posts)Liberal In Texas
(13,677 posts)Kid Berwyn
(15,382 posts)Before mass leaders seize the power to fit reality to their lies, their propaganda is marked by its extreme contempt for facts as such, for in their opinion fact depends entirely on the power of man who can fabricate it.
Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism
bsiebs
(691 posts)flying_wahini
(6,803 posts)JoseBalow
(2,863 posts)wnylib
(22,036 posts)Eugene
(62,048 posts)That 950-page document stretches legal definitions to Orwellian extremes.
It already provides for civil rights prosecutions of state and local officials
who fail to support the MAGA crackdown. Must protect those poor, oppressed
White Christians from the corrosive influences of LGBT, CRT, feminism, ...
The Trumpian proposal to execute officials who leak to the press
easily falls within an authoritarian definition of treason.
and also missing is Pedophilia. Very interesting......LOL
hadEnuf
(2,269 posts)This is America's future. It won't stop at convicted prisoners. They will continue to chip away at the stone. We can bank on it.
We have to fight these scum with everything we have while we still can.
They cannot be allowed to take power under any circumstances.
JoseBalow
(2,863 posts)What remains is a question of will.
KS Toronado
(17,680 posts)Quite the opposite, now if we could just get repugnuts to read it with an open mind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025
Think. Again.
(9,483 posts)You're a hoot!
NanaCat
(2,028 posts)So who cares what it says...about anything?
I mean it's okay as a starting point to get some minor information, because the footnotes are often far more accurate than most of the article content.
But as an overall source of knowledge for reference? No.
Just...no.
et tu
(1,073 posts)to facebook lol
bdamomma
(64,061 posts)posting Project 2025, it should be read by all, and reinforce that this criminal must not be near the WH.
No one will be safe.......
They want to gut everything ..................tRump is Putin's puppet to burn the country to the ground.
Here is another account of Project 2025. Believe what they say.
https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf
Botany
(70,784 posts)Jeffery Epstein used Trumps plane to move his sex slaves around and on the day when
Epstein killed himself he said that Trump had used his plane too.
Btw Trump reportedly ran escorts at his Atlantic City Casinos too.
ashredux
(2,612 posts)Botany
(70,784 posts)cameras (both of them) just happened to break too.
ashredux
(2,612 posts)lastlib
(23,512 posts)Gotta service the masters..........
wnylib
(22,036 posts)QAnon believers think engage in sex trafficking of young children. It also means migrants and asylum seekers on our southern border. The excuse that the MAGA administration gave for separating children from parents was to ensure that the children weren't being trafficked.
The Mouth
(3,184 posts)ashredux
(2,612 posts)Turbineguy
(37,495 posts)et tu
(1,073 posts)Hotler
(11,549 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,600 posts)Warpy
(111,634 posts)They can then swagger around and pat themselves on the backs for making the country safer for good Christians like them.
markodochartaigh
(1,235 posts)"I could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose any voters." is so often misunderstood. It is not a matter of "they don't care" about the killing.
The authoritarian Strong Leader executing people actually gins up support among authoritarian followers, it excites them to see the power of their Strong Leader.
For now, until the supreme court decides, extra judicial executions are off the table for a US president. The US president can't just go around shooting people like Duterte in The Philippines. Executions of death row inmates are the legal analog to shooting someone on 5th Avenue. Very public, a display of raw power.
And surely people remember that in the final days of Trump's first term he went on an execution spree. Where were the opus dei "Catholic" protests about the sanctity of life then?
https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-trump-and-barrs-last-minute-killing-spree
liberal N proud
(60,378 posts)They can twist anything to sell it to the ignorant
I wish THEY would all just DIE THE F**K OFF!
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,569 posts)I feel the same I wish there was no more right wing ideologies that the whole party and all its members and maga believers alike would just vanish and never exist again.
sakabatou
(42,264 posts)Warhammer 40k reference.
Peacetrain
(22,917 posts)How many innocent people have been released from death row or jail because people were able to prove their innocence.. in any number of ways, including DNA.. It is just a fact.. innocent people as well as the guilty are sitting in prison..
As long as that innocent person is in prison they will fight for their freedom. Because when an innocent person is convicted.. not only are they being punished but the guilty are running free todo whatever mayhem they want..
I just cant believe people cannot think things out. The death penalty is not a gift to anyone. Who in their right mind would want to live behind bars for the rest of their lives.. For the truly guilty, the death penalty is the easy way out..
spanone
(136,087 posts)The Blue Flower
(5,462 posts)nt
barbtries
(28,845 posts)something that seems objectively wrong, like why would there even be an argument over this. it's on me though, i have said before that there is no bottom for them. i'm still shocked when they prove me right.
Evolve Dammit
(16,948 posts)DENVERPOPS
(9,030 posts)it is far cheaper to pay for life in prison with no parole, than pursuing the death penalty.....
Also, Life with no parole, is far worse to most people than the death penalty......Just ask McVeigh......
soldierant
(7,069 posts)And I keep saying but nothing compared to the bloodbath ther'll be if he wins.
GenThePerservering
(1,981 posts)and it won't work now. The death penalty is not a deterrent to crime.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,569 posts)Bloodthirsty psychopath that can still vote will vote for trump. Every rage-aholic,Narcissist,
every fascist,Christian soldier,every rapist, abuser ,pedophile ,hater and so called alpha will vote for trump to live out their sick sordid abuse/ kill fantasies. Trump gives them the rationale and permission they seek (as in he wont tell them to stop) and they think trump and his ilk people like themselves will only slap thier wrists when they kill or rape or torture the right kind of people. These degenerates have been itching to kill. The death penalty is only the beginning to these monsters.
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DFW
(54,700 posts)They like killing.
Just ask the current governor of South Dakota.