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riversedge

(70,741 posts)
Tue May 7, 2024, 03:30 PM May 7

Johnson demands all Trump prosecutions cease, vows to use Congress 'in every possible way'

Source: alternet.org




David Badash
1h

In a clear attack on the executive branch, the judicial system, states’ rights, and the rule of law in America, Republican Speaker of the House Mike Johnson vowed on Tuesday to use all the powers of Congress at his disposal to end all four current criminal prosecutions of ex-president Donald Trump.

Johnson’s remarks late Tuesday morning came at the exact same time Stormy Daniels was giving sworn testimony about her alleged sexual relationship with Trump in a Manhattan Superior Court case. The presumptive 2024 Republican presidential nominee is on trial for 34 felonies related to falsification of business records when he allegedly paid hush money to the adult film star then covered up those payments in what prosecutors say was election interference.

“President Trump has done nothing wrong here and he continues to be the target of endless lawfare,” Speaker Johnson told reporters Tuesday during an official House news conference (video below). “It has to stop. And you’re gonna see the United States Congress address this in every possible way that we can, because we need accountability. Ultimately, at the end of the day, it’s bigger than President Trump. It’s about the people’s faith in our system of justice. And we’re gonna get down to the bottom of it. All these cases need to be dropped, because they are a threat to our system.”

Johnson’s remarks also come as he faces an ouster threat from far-right MAGA Republican Christian nationalist Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene. The Speaker, who repeatedly has said he speaks to Trump frequently, spent the weekend at the ex-president’s Florida resort and residence, Mar-a-Lago. He also traveled there just weeks ago as Greene’s threats were heating up. Trump and Johnson held a joint press conference on “election integrity,” an image some say was a show of strength and support from the leader of his party.


Read more: https://www.alternet.org/amp/johnson-trump-prosecutions-2668188108



Also see this DU thread which I had started earlier today on Johnson demands:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218929115
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Johnson demands all Trump prosecutions cease, vows to use Congress 'in every possible way' (Original Post) riversedge May 7 OP
Nope.................................. Lovie777 May 7 #1
Hey little mikey--Pound Sand! lastlib May 8 #80
I wonder who told him to say that, and what was the proposed penalty for not doing so. n/t Harker May 7 #2
MTG finally backed off. But maybe the orange turd? mchill May 7 #4
His announcement looks like a hostage video. Harker May 7 #6
That was the deal he made with Greene, that is why she is waiting for him to behave and obey, and if not? Escurumbele May 7 #67
Good luck with that, Doofus. Diamond_Dog May 7 #3
So the legislative branch thinks it can control Ocelot II May 7 #5
or "States' rights"? Ponietz May 7 #14
MTG demanded Johnson defund Jack Smith and abandon Ukraine in contentious meeting: report LetMyPeopleVote May 7 #7
Who the F**K does she think she is!? sheshe2 May 8 #74
Exactly! joshdawg May 8 #76
They are scared. They know this will expose him and them and they will lose voters. Pure fear now from the GOP ZonkerHarris May 7 #8
They made a huge mistake allowing him to run FakeNoose May 7 #25
Well, there were 6 people who could've stopped him. Other than that, how could they stop him? oldsoftie May 7 #37
He says they're going to get to the bottom of things...... lastlib May 7 #9
Please show me the article in the Constitution where Congress has the right to shut down criminal prosecutions. Lonestarblue May 7 #10
Maybe democrats Rebl2 May 7 #27
Agree. Dems should think twice. I'm sure Hakeem and Nancy are weighing likely outcomes. ancianita May 7 #29
Not think twice Chi67 May 7 #62
It is on the back. Written in sharpie. n/t whopis01 May 8 #83
We are in dangerous waters. Baitball Blogger May 7 #11
Well if they are intent on ignoring the rules of BlueKota May 7 #17
Not a good idea to succumb to their level of stupid vitriol. That's neither the party's nor Biden's style. ancianita May 7 #30
At some point, if they keep pushing the line, and the SC rules DT has immunity BlueKota May 7 #36
"If" tsf gets immunity from SCOTUS is not likely. It's not reasonable to live as if your hypothetical is fact. ancianita May 7 #66
Not likely is not the same as won't BlueKota May 8 #81
Understood. Agree. ancianita May 8 #82
while true, and we have been for some time, this is pathetic desperation prodigitalson May 7 #23
the Fuhrer... myohmy2 May 7 #12
"Trump has done nothing wrong here" Happy Hoosier May 7 #13
He is repeating what a minority of voters in the country believes from Fux Snooze. Justice matters. May 7 #48
THREE WORDS CousinIT May 7 #15
Hoping the White House gives a blistering response BlueKota May 7 #16
No need, really. Pervy Johnson can't interfere with the court. Hermit-The-Prog May 7 #18
Dark Brandon would be toying with a M134 Traurigkeit May 7 #19
Please don't. ShazzieB May 7 #26
Thanks for saying this ShazzieB Ponietz May 7 #47
Glad to be of service. ShazzieB May 8 #73
I don't want them dead unless it's natural causes. BlueKota May 7 #55
I'd rather Biden met with Johnson behind closed doors and let him know how dumb he is. emulatorloo May 7 #53
marjarumplestiltsgreene put him up to this BaronChocula May 7 #20
Of course she did - her fingerprints are all over this mess FakeNoose May 7 #46
hah, good fucking luck! prodigitalson May 7 #21
These fucking asshole repubs are really scraping the bottom. NewHendoLib May 7 #22
They're masturbating in public now Ponietz May 7 #49
Mikey just made even MORE friends ... usonian May 7 #24
Until yesterday, D.U. posts indicated support for helping Johnson fend off M.T.G. What about you? 3Hotdogs May 7 #28
Nope. Not after what he said today. BlueKota May 7 #41
NO! Chi67 May 7 #63
The Hastert Rule? as in Dennis Hastert? louis-t May 7 #31
Mr "No Bank Accounts" declared in his assets can go suck eggs. Ziggysmom May 7 #32
Leave Britney Alone!!!😭😭😭😭😭 Fichefinder May 7 #33
Well it's now confirmed that at the meeting with MTG that he was ordered to bow down and kiss Trump's ring. cstanleytech May 7 #34
Is it bad that every time I hear TFG's name these days, KatyaR May 7 #35
he's a republican. barbtries May 7 #38
Precisely what will you have Congress do, Mikey? keithbvadu2 May 7 #39
Johnson has just exposed his incompetence... GiqueCee May 7 #40
Talk about leaving your lane Picaro May 7 #42
Wait ... Seinan Sensei May 7 #43
Oh? Baaahahahahaaaaaaa!... STFU, Mikey. electric_blue68 May 7 #44
I guess its time for democrats Tree Lady May 7 #45
Insurrection: The sequel. Baitball Blogger May 7 #50
He's trying to save his job Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 7 #51
Rule of law not your thing, huh, MAGAt Mike? Aviation Pro May 7 #52
Repubs plan comes to light......see also Cannon indefinite postpose classified docs trial. NowsTheTime May 7 #54
Got his wish with Mar A Lago case...😡 duckworth969 May 7 #56
Justice Departments' response... thesquanderer May 7 #57
Really Moses? How about you use Congress (actually dobleremolque May 7 #58
Wish I could rec this post NJCher May 8 #77
Say good-bye to your gavel, asshole. You weren't going to hold it past this next election anyways. marble falls May 7 #59
get off your duff and govern, or step asside. AllaN01Bear May 7 #60
Oh hell no! Chi67 May 7 #61
FO johnson. Groundhawg May 7 #64
"President Trump has done nothing wrong here .... " Botany May 7 #65
So, maybe Democrats don't need to save his ass from MTG's push to oust him. sinkingfeeling May 7 #68
repugs are losing all pretense in equal justice samsingh May 7 #69
Obstruction of justice. nt TeamProg May 8 #70
Maybe he can get Jim Jordan to send out some fiery emails and make it all stop SomedayKindaLove May 8 #71
Wonder if his cheerleaders here still think it's a great idea that we stuck our necks out to save him? Lancero May 8 #72
'all the powers of Congress at his disposal to end all four current criminal prosecutions of ex-president Donald Trump.' elleng May 8 #75
Hey Mike what did Jesus say about hypocrisy? SARose May 8 #78
Not federal and they would be pb Historic NY May 8 #79
OK, maybe the Dems should just let him go down. lark May 8 #84

lastlib

(23,512 posts)
80. Hey little mikey--Pound Sand!
Wed May 8, 2024, 07:35 AM
May 8

you're out of your lane--TSF's trials are NOYDB*! You have NO constitutional role in these trials. Zero Zilch. Nada. NONE.

Stick to legislating (or, in your case, NOT legislating ), and leave the "judiciating" and executing to the big boys who know what it's all about. In this area, you obviously don't know jack-shit--a fact PROVED by the fact that you opened your effin' mouth about it.

(*none of your damn Beeswax.)

Harker

(14,184 posts)
6. His announcement looks like a hostage video.
Tue May 7, 2024, 03:41 PM
May 7

I'm guessing Trumpsky yelled at him when he visited Mar-a-lago-go.

Escurumbele

(3,437 posts)
67. That was the deal he made with Greene, that is why she is waiting for him to behave and obey, and if not?
Tue May 7, 2024, 10:50 PM
May 7

What an unprincipled SOB, all to maintain a position that he cannot control, he needs to look in the mirror and ask himself "do I actually enjoy any power in my position?", and the answer you SOB, is NO, you don't, MTG is using you as a marionette, she pulls your strings..

Ocelot II

(116,352 posts)
5. So the legislative branch thinks it can control
Tue May 7, 2024, 03:40 PM
May 7

the executive branch (DoJ) and the judicial branch? Can you say “separation of powers,” Mike?

LetMyPeopleVote

(146,599 posts)
7. MTG demanded Johnson defund Jack Smith and abandon Ukraine in contentious meeting: report
Tue May 7, 2024, 03:42 PM
May 7

Maga Mike is caving to MTG



https://www.rawstory.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-2668185404/

Rebellious Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) reportedly laid out her demands to House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) during a contentious meeting about her efforts to get him ousted from his position.

Punchbowl News reports that Greene made a number of asks during a meeting with Johnson that included a guarantee that he would not pass more military aid for Ukraine, a pledge to defund special counsel Jack Smith's prosecutions of President Donald Trump, and that "Johnson only advance legislative priorities that have the support of the majority of the majority — an adherence to the so-called Hastert Rule."



joshdawg

(2,655 posts)
76. Exactly!
Wed May 8, 2024, 03:10 AM
May 8

She is no position to "demand" anything from anyone.
Sheesh, what a waste of skin and oxygen.

ZonkerHarris

(24,395 posts)
8. They are scared. They know this will expose him and them and they will lose voters. Pure fear now from the GOP
Tue May 7, 2024, 03:50 PM
May 7

oldsoftie

(12,763 posts)
37. Well, there were 6 people who could've stopped him. Other than that, how could they stop him?
Tue May 7, 2024, 06:24 PM
May 7

He's always done whatever he wanted nobody from the Party would override him

lastlib

(23,512 posts)
9. He says they're going to get to the bottom of things......
Tue May 7, 2024, 03:51 PM
May 7

Hell, they hit bottom months ago, and they're still digging.

Pound sand, mikey. you're out of your lane by a mile. This is NOYDB*

(*none of your damn beeswax)

Lonestarblue

(10,368 posts)
10. Please show me the article in the Constitution where Congress has the right to shut down criminal prosecutions.
Tue May 7, 2024, 03:51 PM
May 7

And for political reasons. Speaker Johnson, you are out of order.

BlueKota

(1,977 posts)
17. Well if they are intent on ignoring the rules of
Tue May 7, 2024, 04:14 PM
May 7

fair play, then our side shouldn't have to play by them either.

ancianita

(36,328 posts)
30. Not a good idea to succumb to their level of stupid vitriol. That's neither the party's nor Biden's style.
Tue May 7, 2024, 06:07 PM
May 7

BlueKota

(1,977 posts)
36. At some point, if they keep pushing the line, and the SC rules DT has immunity
Tue May 7, 2024, 06:23 PM
May 7

somebody damn well better have the courage to stand up and defend the rest of us. Should we just sit back while they engineer a dictatorship like Germany did in WWII? We are dealing with people who are announcing they intend to do that, and are willing to break the law, cheat, and use violence to get what they want. Someone has to stop them before it's too late to stop them.

We can't keep just crossing our fingers and expect them to play nice just because we are.

ancianita

(36,328 posts)
66. "If" tsf gets immunity from SCOTUS is not likely. It's not reasonable to live as if your hypothetical is fact.
Tue May 7, 2024, 10:46 PM
May 7

This isn't about "engineering" a dictatorship. It's about ending The People's protections under rule of law so that they can do harm to those they round up as their so-called enemies.
It's not about who they are.
It's about who we are. We cannot treat them unlawfully. It's not who we are.

That's not "playing nice." It's about how adults have the agency to govern those who refuse to behave according to the rule of law -- it's why we have law enforcement, judges and courts.
That's what stops them. Not tit for tat, which shuts down any progress. Adults govern others the way they govern themselves; they keep the law to keep a just peace that descendants can thrive in. As Nancy says, "for the children."

No one who's like lawbreakers can stop them -- if they were, that's 'all against all,' reverting to some law of the jungle that can lead to political violence. Not to mention it feeds into corporate 'normalizing' of the worst behaviors of one group by messaging "See? Both sides do it!"




BlueKota

(1,977 posts)
81. Not likely is not the same as won't
Wed May 8, 2024, 07:56 AM
May 8

A lot of people said it was unlikely Roe would be overturned but guess what it was. All I am saying is if they give full immunity to him they will have lost all legitimacy. Then our side won't be able to depend on the courts for protection.

I am not saying we act on the hypothetical now, but we need to be prepared to act if the hypothetical becomes reality. Locke believed in the social contract(in our case the Constitution)and so do I. The contract is only worthwhile if both sides agree to honor it's terms. If one side violates those terms the other side is allowed to consider it broken. It would be like continuing to pay rent on an apartment you've been evicted from.

When January 6 happened I wrote to my European History professor. He said we should be okay as long as the courts hold, but my question is what happens if they don't hold?

Again we need a plan if they don't. Multiple possibilities and out comes need to be prepared for. It's like we hope our houses never catch on fire, but we still put in smoke detectors, have exit plans in place, 911, and the fire department's.

It's just common sense to be prepared for a potentially dangerous situation.

prodigitalson

(2,507 posts)
23. while true, and we have been for some time, this is pathetic desperation
Tue May 7, 2024, 05:29 PM
May 7

there is no way the speaker of the house is gonna do shit about a bunch of federal indictments much less his state court problems. tfg must have called and screamed at him... but he can't do shit. and saying he will isn't a good look in the long run

Happy Hoosier

(7,544 posts)
13. "Trump has done nothing wrong here"
Tue May 7, 2024, 03:55 PM
May 7

Well, that's what the process is all about, isn't it? He was indicted by a Grand Jury, which is what the process calls for. And at trial, a jury of peers will actually determine of the prosecution proved its case. THAT is due process, not the Preacher of the House declaring that Trump "didn't do anything wrong."

Justice matters.

(6,978 posts)
48. He is repeating what a minority of voters in the country believes from Fux Snooze.
Tue May 7, 2024, 09:27 PM
May 7

The fascist cult leader told him to defend him. Thing is, he has zero powers to do what he said he will, but the minority of voters he deludes don't know he has zero powers to do it and they don't care. He tells them what they want to hear like when they watch Fux Snooze.

ShazzieB

(16,825 posts)
26. Please don't.
Tue May 7, 2024, 06:00 PM
May 7

Please don't make jokes that connect Biden (or Dark Brandon) with a gun in ANY way.

That's not funny at all and in extremely poor taste, considering how many people die from gunfire in this country despite repeated Democratic-led (Republican-thwarted) attempts to pass sensible gun safety laws.

BlueKota

(1,977 posts)
55. I don't want them dead unless it's natural causes.
Tue May 7, 2024, 09:54 PM
May 7

They are basically not worth anyone getting charged with a crime for. Publicly humiliating them, banning them permanently from politics and government, and putting them in a tough prison for life for their crimes would satisfy me.

BaronChocula

(1,694 posts)
20. marjarumplestiltsgreene put him up to this
Tue May 7, 2024, 05:16 PM
May 7

It makes sense that this was on her list of demands in exchange for pausing on the motion to vacate.

usonian

(10,181 posts)
24. Mikey just made even MORE friends ...
Tue May 7, 2024, 05:32 PM
May 7

Among Democratic reps, who are his only hope of staying on the job.
Among the judiciary, who know about separation of powers, and
Among high school civics teachers, who seem to know a ton more about government.

3Hotdogs

(12,570 posts)
28. Until yesterday, D.U. posts indicated support for helping Johnson fend off M.T.G. What about you?
Tue May 7, 2024, 06:00 PM
May 7

Do you still think they should?

louis-t

(23,341 posts)
31. The Hastert Rule? as in Dennis Hastert?
Tue May 7, 2024, 06:08 PM
May 7

You mean, this guy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Hastert#:~:text=Referring%20to%20Hastert%20as%20a,to%20serve%20a%20prison%20sentence.


Referring to Hastert as a "serial child molester", a federal judge imposed a sentence of 15 months in prison, two years' supervised release, and a $250,000 fine.[3][7] Hastert was imprisoned in 2016 and was released 13 months later;[8] he became the highest-ranking elected official in U.S. history to serve a prison sentence.[3]

cstanleytech

(26,411 posts)
34. Well it's now confirmed that at the meeting with MTG that he was ordered to bow down and kiss Trump's ring.
Tue May 7, 2024, 06:17 PM
May 7

Though I will admit that has to be better than tonguing Trump's asshole like Lindsey Graham does.

KatyaR

(3,450 posts)
35. Is it bad that every time I hear TFG's name these days,
Tue May 7, 2024, 06:19 PM
May 7

this is what I think of?

"Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?"

I just want him to go away.

GiqueCee

(711 posts)
40. Johnson has just exposed his incompetence...
Tue May 7, 2024, 06:31 PM
May 7

... and his malicious determination to put Der Party before the country. Again. Biden did not bring charges against the Orange Bag of Ratshit, the DOJ did, and took their sweet-ass time doing it. Probably hoping that Trumpleforeskin would keep his stupid fucking mouth shut, and the whole thing would blow over. Nope.
The law means nothing to conservatives, unless it's the law of the vindictive and malevolent Old Testament Sky Daddy with serious anger management issues.
This idiotic pantload of bullshit was undoubtedly Empty Greene's price for not putting Johnson's head on a pike. But he may think such histrionics might help in the furtherance of his Christian Nationalist goals. Funny how every conservative plan to pervert the Constitution and rain hellfire and brimstone on those with the temerity to disagree with their fevered desire for a ruthless theocracy like Iran's, always has treason as the cornerstone of their diseased belief system.
Fuck 'em all. Fuck 'em all to death. They're the ones that always screech, "NO MERCY!" So they shouldn't expect any either.

Picaro

(1,570 posts)
42. Talk about leaving your lane
Tue May 7, 2024, 06:39 PM
May 7

By design Congress has no power over the judiciary.

These folks just don’t give a rip about the Constitution. They make it clear in word and deed every day.

Seinan Sensei

(393 posts)
43. Wait ...
Tue May 7, 2024, 07:00 PM
May 7

You mean,
Mikey is watching Stormy on TV?
Does Mikey’s social-media accountability partner (his son) know about this?

Aviation Pro

(12,348 posts)
52. Rule of law not your thing, huh, MAGAt Mike?
Tue May 7, 2024, 09:40 PM
May 7

Stormy's testimony certainly shook you and the rest of MAGAt world to your motherfucking cores hasn't it, you un-American sack of shit.

dobleremolque

(498 posts)
58. Really Moses? How about you use Congress (actually
Tue May 7, 2024, 10:00 PM
May 7

one half ... barely..., of one half, of one third of the federal government) to lower the price of gasoline? Or lower the price of groceries? Or raise taxes on billionaires? Do something genuinely constructive. Or I guess we'll have to wait until after November when you don't control (barely) one half of one half of one third of the national level of government.

Chi67

(1,096 posts)
61. Oh hell no!
Tue May 7, 2024, 10:19 PM
May 7

Johnson needs to GO! He needs to be deposed as speaker of the House. I agree with MTG now on at least one thing.

Botany

(70,782 posts)
65. "President Trump has done nothing wrong here .... "
Tue May 7, 2024, 10:43 PM
May 7

Well then V.S.P. should have nothing to worry about because the trial should prove
that to be the case. This makes me wonder just how many republicans were Trump
/Russia dirty? The GOP is part of a criminal organization. End of story.

SomedayKindaLove

(564 posts)
71. Maybe he can get Jim Jordan to send out some fiery emails and make it all stop
Wed May 8, 2024, 01:13 AM
May 8

Of course they are going to run and pull out all the stops, they are complicit in it all. And if Trump goes down, all his men can too. We are in dangerous waters indeed.

elleng

(131,821 posts)
75. 'all the powers of Congress at his disposal to end all four current criminal prosecutions of ex-president Donald Trump.'
Wed May 8, 2024, 02:21 AM
May 8

ZERO!!!

SARose

(307 posts)
78. Hey Mike what did Jesus say about hypocrisy?
Wed May 8, 2024, 05:53 AM
May 8

Matt 23.

Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2 “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4 They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.


Mike ole buddy for someone so “religious” you fail to heed the words of your Savior. Jest sayin’.

Is it any wonder so many Americans reply “none” when asked about their religious affiliation?

Historic NY

(37,481 posts)
79. Not federal and they would be pb
Wed May 8, 2024, 06:54 AM
May 8

Obstructing Justice. The legal scholar Gym Jordan tried and told to sit down.

lark

(23,278 posts)
84. OK, maybe the Dems should just let him go down.
Wed May 8, 2024, 08:35 AM
May 8

This is what "howler monkey" got in exchange for not removing him.

Of course, none of them are being stopped except the ones that our fascist judges in SCOTUS and So FL. have stopped the cases dead in their tracks. They are dead certain that laws only apply to the poor, not to the rich fascists.

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