Johnson demands all Trump prosecutions cease, vows to use Congress 'in every possible way'
Source: alternet.org
David Badash
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In a clear attack on the executive branch, the judicial system, states rights, and the rule of law in America, Republican Speaker of the House Mike Johnson vowed on Tuesday to use all the powers of Congress at his disposal to end all four current criminal prosecutions of ex-president Donald Trump.
Johnsons remarks late Tuesday morning came at the exact same time Stormy Daniels was giving sworn testimony about her alleged sexual relationship with Trump in a Manhattan Superior Court case. The presumptive 2024 Republican presidential nominee is on trial for 34 felonies related to falsification of business records when he allegedly paid hush money to the adult film star then covered up those payments in what prosecutors say was election interference.
President Trump has done nothing wrong here and he continues to be the target of endless lawfare, Speaker Johnson told reporters Tuesday during an official House news conference (video below). It has to stop. And youre gonna see the United States Congress address this in every possible way that we can, because we need accountability. Ultimately, at the end of the day, its bigger than President Trump. Its about the peoples faith in our system of justice. And were gonna get down to the bottom of it. All these cases need to be dropped, because they are a threat to our system.
Johnsons remarks also come as he faces an ouster threat from far-right MAGA Republican Christian nationalist Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene. The Speaker, who repeatedly has said he speaks to Trump frequently, spent the weekend at the ex-presidents Florida resort and residence, Mar-a-Lago. He also traveled there just weeks ago as Greenes threats were heating up. Trump and Johnson held a joint press conference on election integrity, an image some say was a show of strength and support from the leader of his party.
Read more: https://www.alternet.org/amp/johnson-trump-prosecutions-2668188108
Also see this DU thread which I had started earlier today on Johnson demands:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218929115
Lovie777
(12,566 posts)and STFU.
lastlib
(23,512 posts)you're out of your lane--TSF's trials are NOYDB*! You have NO constitutional role in these trials. Zero Zilch. Nada. NONE.
Stick to legislating (or, in your case, NOT legislating ), and leave the "judiciating" and executing to the big boys who know what it's all about. In this area, you obviously don't know jack-shit--a fact PROVED by the fact that you opened your effin' mouth about it.
(*none of your damn Beeswax.)
Harker
(14,184 posts)mchill
(1,025 posts)Or both?
Harker
(14,184 posts)I'm guessing Trumpsky yelled at him when he visited Mar-a-lago-go.
Escurumbele
(3,437 posts)What an unprincipled SOB, all to maintain a position that he cannot control, he needs to look in the mirror and ask himself "do I actually enjoy any power in my position?", and the answer you SOB, is NO, you don't, MTG is using you as a marionette, she pulls your strings..
Diamond_Dog
(32,356 posts)Ocelot II
(116,352 posts)the executive branch (DoJ) and the judicial branch? Can you say separation of powers, Mike?
Ponietz
(3,131 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(146,599 posts)Maga Mike is caving to MTG
Link to tweet
https://www.rawstory.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-2668185404/
Punchbowl News reports that Greene made a number of asks during a meeting with Johnson that included a guarantee that he would not pass more military aid for Ukraine, a pledge to defund special counsel Jack Smith's prosecutions of President Donald Trump, and that "Johnson only advance legislative priorities that have the support of the majority of the majority an adherence to the so-called Hastert Rule."
Link to tweet
sheshe2
(84,279 posts)She is no position to "demand" anything from anyone.
Sheesh, what a waste of skin and oxygen.
ZonkerHarris
(24,395 posts)FakeNoose
(33,191 posts)It was so obvious to us, but they're kinda slow....
oldsoftie
(12,763 posts)He's always done whatever he wanted nobody from the Party would override him
lastlib
(23,512 posts)Hell, they hit bottom months ago, and they're still digging.
Pound sand, mikey. you're out of your lane by a mile. This is NOYDB*
(*none of your damn beeswax)
Lonestarblue
(10,368 posts)And for political reasons. Speaker Johnson, you are out of order.
Rebl2
(13,717 posts)should think twice about trying to save his speakership. What do you think?
ancianita
(36,328 posts)Think once and get him out.
whopis01
(3,538 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,868 posts)BlueKota
(1,977 posts)fair play, then our side shouldn't have to play by them either.
ancianita
(36,328 posts)BlueKota
(1,977 posts)somebody damn well better have the courage to stand up and defend the rest of us. Should we just sit back while they engineer a dictatorship like Germany did in WWII? We are dealing with people who are announcing they intend to do that, and are willing to break the law, cheat, and use violence to get what they want. Someone has to stop them before it's too late to stop them.
We can't keep just crossing our fingers and expect them to play nice just because we are.
ancianita
(36,328 posts)This isn't about "engineering" a dictatorship. It's about ending The People's protections under rule of law so that they can do harm to those they round up as their so-called enemies.
It's not about who they are.
It's about who we are. We cannot treat them unlawfully. It's not who we are.
That's not "playing nice." It's about how adults have the agency to govern those who refuse to behave according to the rule of law -- it's why we have law enforcement, judges and courts.
That's what stops them. Not tit for tat, which shuts down any progress. Adults govern others the way they govern themselves; they keep the law to keep a just peace that descendants can thrive in. As Nancy says, "for the children."
No one who's like lawbreakers can stop them -- if they were, that's 'all against all,' reverting to some law of the jungle that can lead to political violence. Not to mention it feeds into corporate 'normalizing' of the worst behaviors of one group by messaging "See? Both sides do it!"
BlueKota
(1,977 posts)A lot of people said it was unlikely Roe would be overturned but guess what it was. All I am saying is if they give full immunity to him they will have lost all legitimacy. Then our side won't be able to depend on the courts for protection.
I am not saying we act on the hypothetical now, but we need to be prepared to act if the hypothetical becomes reality. Locke believed in the social contract(in our case the Constitution)and so do I. The contract is only worthwhile if both sides agree to honor it's terms. If one side violates those terms the other side is allowed to consider it broken. It would be like continuing to pay rent on an apartment you've been evicted from.
When January 6 happened I wrote to my European History professor. He said we should be okay as long as the courts hold, but my question is what happens if they don't hold?
Again we need a plan if they don't. Multiple possibilities and out comes need to be prepared for. It's like we hope our houses never catch on fire, but we still put in smoke detectors, have exit plans in place, 911, and the fire department's.
It's just common sense to be prepared for a potentially dangerous situation.
ancianita
(36,328 posts)prodigitalson
(2,507 posts)there is no way the speaker of the house is gonna do shit about a bunch of federal indictments much less his state court problems. tfg must have called and screamed at him... but he can't do shit. and saying he will isn't a good look in the long run
myohmy2
(3,289 posts)...demands obedience...
...atta boy mikey...
...and January 6 was just an illusion...
Happy Hoosier
(7,544 posts)Well, that's what the process is all about, isn't it? He was indicted by a Grand Jury, which is what the process calls for. And at trial, a jury of peers will actually determine of the prosecution proved its case. THAT is due process, not the Preacher of the House declaring that Trump "didn't do anything wrong."
Justice matters.
(6,978 posts)The fascist cult leader told him to defend him. Thing is, he has zero powers to do what he said he will, but the minority of voters he deludes don't know he has zero powers to do it and they don't care. He tells them what they want to hear like when they watch Fux Snooze.
CousinIT
(9,338 posts)OBSTRUCTION
OF
JUSTICE
BlueKota
(1,977 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,818 posts)Traurigkeit
(762 posts)ShazzieB
(16,825 posts)Please don't make jokes that connect Biden (or Dark Brandon) with a gun in ANY way.
That's not funny at all and in extremely poor taste, considering how many people die from gunfire in this country despite repeated Democratic-led (Republican-thwarted) attempts to pass sensible gun safety laws.
Ponietz
(3,131 posts)ShazzieB
(16,825 posts)I just couldn't NOT say something!
BlueKota
(1,977 posts)They are basically not worth anyone getting charged with a crime for. Publicly humiliating them, banning them permanently from politics and government, and putting them in a tough prison for life for their crimes would satisfy me.
emulatorloo
(44,326 posts)BaronChocula
(1,694 posts)It makes sense that this was on her list of demands in exchange for pausing on the motion to vacate.
FakeNoose
(33,191 posts)prodigitalson
(2,507 posts)NewHendoLib
(60,052 posts)Ponietz
(3,131 posts)Craven wretches
usonian
(10,181 posts)Among Democratic reps, who are his only hope of staying on the job.
Among the judiciary, who know about separation of powers, and
Among high school civics teachers, who seem to know a ton more about government.
3Hotdogs
(12,570 posts)Do you still think they should?
BlueKota
(1,977 posts)He made it obvious he's willing to give into the radicals.
louis-t
(23,341 posts)You mean, this guy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Hastert#:~:text=Referring%20to%20Hastert%20as%20a,to%20serve%20a%20prison%20sentence.
Referring to Hastert as a "serial child molester", a federal judge imposed a sentence of 15 months in prison, two years' supervised release, and a $250,000 fine.[3][7] Hastert was imprisoned in 2016 and was released 13 months later;[8] he became the highest-ranking elected official in U.S. history to serve a prison sentence.[3]
Ziggysmom
(3,453 posts)Fichefinder
(174 posts)cstanleytech
(26,411 posts)Though I will admit that has to be better than tonguing Trump's asshole like Lindsey Graham does.
KatyaR
(3,450 posts)this is what I think of?
"Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?"
I just want him to go away.
barbtries
(28,844 posts)we're swirling down the drain.
keithbvadu2
(37,305 posts)GiqueCee
(711 posts)... and his malicious determination to put Der Party before the country. Again. Biden did not bring charges against the Orange Bag of Ratshit, the DOJ did, and took their sweet-ass time doing it. Probably hoping that Trumpleforeskin would keep his stupid fucking mouth shut, and the whole thing would blow over. Nope.
The law means nothing to conservatives, unless it's the law of the vindictive and malevolent Old Testament Sky Daddy with serious anger management issues.
This idiotic pantload of bullshit was undoubtedly Empty Greene's price for not putting Johnson's head on a pike. But he may think such histrionics might help in the furtherance of his Christian Nationalist goals. Funny how every conservative plan to pervert the Constitution and rain hellfire and brimstone on those with the temerity to disagree with their fevered desire for a ruthless theocracy like Iran's, always has treason as the cornerstone of their diseased belief system.
Fuck 'em all. Fuck 'em all to death. They're the ones that always screech, "NO MERCY!" So they shouldn't expect any either.
Picaro
(1,570 posts)By design Congress has no power over the judiciary.
These folks just dont give a rip about the Constitution. They make it clear in word and deed every day.
Seinan Sensei
(393 posts)You mean,
Mikey is watching Stormy on TV?
Does Mikeys social-media accountability partner (his son) know about this?
electric_blue68
(15,189 posts)Tree Lady
(11,593 posts)to stop helping him.
Baitball Blogger
(46,868 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,919 posts)Nothing more. So much for the party of law and order.
Aviation Pro
(12,348 posts)Stormy's testimony certainly shook you and the rest of MAGAt world to your motherfucking cores hasn't it, you un-American sack of shit.
NowsTheTime
(740 posts)duckworth969
(745 posts)thesquanderer
(12,026 posts)dobleremolque
(498 posts)one half ... barely..., of one half, of one third of the federal government) to lower the price of gasoline? Or lower the price of groceries? Or raise taxes on billionaires? Do something genuinely constructive. Or I guess we'll have to wait until after November when you don't control (barely) one half of one half of one third of the national level of government.
NJCher
(35,962 posts)1000 times.
marble falls
(58,308 posts)AllaN01Bear
(19,346 posts)Chi67
(1,096 posts)Johnson needs to GO! He needs to be deposed as speaker of the House. I agree with MTG now on at least one thing.
Groundhawg
(608 posts)Botany
(70,782 posts)Well then V.S.P. should have nothing to worry about because the trial should prove
that to be the case. This makes me wonder just how many republicans were Trump
/Russia dirty? The GOP is part of a criminal organization. End of story.
sinkingfeeling
(51,576 posts)samsingh
(17,623 posts)trump is their emperor and they are his bitches
TeamProg
(6,547 posts)SomedayKindaLove
(564 posts)Of course they are going to run and pull out all the stops, they are complicit in it all. And if Trump goes down, all his men can too. We are in dangerous waters indeed.
Lancero
(3,028 posts)elleng
(131,821 posts)ZERO!!!
SARose
(307 posts)Matt 23.
Mike ole buddy for someone so religious you fail to heed the words of your Savior. Jest sayin.
Is it any wonder so many Americans reply none when asked about their religious affiliation?
Historic NY
(37,481 posts)Obstructing Justice. The legal scholar Gym Jordan tried and told to sit down.
lark
(23,278 posts)This is what "howler monkey" got in exchange for not removing him.
Of course, none of them are being stopped except the ones that our fascist judges in SCOTUS and So FL. have stopped the cases dead in their tracks. They are dead certain that laws only apply to the poor, not to the rich fascists.