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BlueWaveNeverEnd

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1. san diego, students block cop bus

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Wed May 8, 2024, 02:53 AM

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MIT suspends student protesters [View all] BlueWaveNeverEnd May 8 OP

san diego, students block cop bus BlueWaveNeverEnd May 8 #1

How many other institutions of higher learning are planning to suspend the First Amendment elleng May 8 #2

private school. private property. AZLD4Candidate May 8 #3

Gotcha, however elleng May 8 #4

your rights end at the property line. AZLD4Candidate May 8 #5

Would you have told these people that? Celerity May 8 #10

If they came on to my property and I didn't agree with them yes. I tell trumpers all the time I don't want their AZLD4Candidate May 8 #14

It's disgusting how the civil rights movement is compared to these whiny privileged kids with no real skin in the game. BannonsLiver May 8 #46

I thought it was a terrible comparison too, but when you defend the indefenisble, you need to stretch logic to its AZLD4Candidate May 8 #51

"these people". What an utterly distorted reach. Nixie May 8 #19

"Those people" weren't whining about getting "humanitarian aid" airdropped from the school cafeteria tritsofme May 8 #22

it is not hard to see my point Celerity May 8 #27

It's like comparing J6ers to Civil Rights marchers, a comparison that makes no sense and is blatantly offensive. tritsofme May 8 #35

I was specifically addressing the 'it is private property so their rights are forfeit' argument. Celerity May 8 #39

... LexVegas May 8 #41

there is nothing humorous about it nt Celerity May 8 #42

... AnrothElf May 8 #48

snarky (tag-teaming off the previous poster's use) emojis as the entire body of reply are such a profound rebuttal Celerity May 8 #75

There's no point in engaging with bad faith interlocutors. This is pure unvarnished pointing and laughing. AnrothElf May 8 #78

you accusing me of being a bad faith poster here is risible, with or without my own use of an emoji for emphasis of that Celerity May 8 #80

What can I say? You might take yourself seriously, but the rest of us are not similarly obliged. AnrothElf May 8 #83

'the rest of us'? Wow, I did not know I was dealing with THE poster of record, the voice for all DUers. Should I curtsy? Celerity May 8 #90

Just letting you know that nobody is obliged to take you seriously. Nobody at all. So yes... AnrothElf May 8 #101

that 'not taking me seriously' and offering nothing but a snarky emoji in terms of any response tells the true tale Celerity May 8 #102

Ridicule is a time-honored way of dealing with people who are impossible to take seriously. AnrothElf May 8 #103

all you have in the tank is personal attacks, sad Celerity May 8 #104

... AnrothElf May 8 #105

and back to the emojis, I am left in awe of your rhetorical toolkit Celerity May 8 #107

Thanks! I really appreciate your awe! Now I'll let you have the last word... AnrothElf May 8 #111

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity May 8 #106

No one has the fucking right to assault anyone regardless of trespassing or private property. SoFlaBro May 9 #118

Complete non sequitur. I said nothing about assault. That is your invention. Celerity May 9 #119

What do you think dumping chemicals on someone's head and pulling them off of a stool is defined as? SoFlaBro May 9 #120

that is not what I was discussing in this thread, and you know it Celerity May 9 #122

Righhhhht BannonsLiver May 8 #49

How long do you think it would take me to find the same shit said Cuthbert Allgood May 8 #63

Who cares how long it would take BannonsLiver May 8 #66

Older people have been "those damn kids"ing things for centuries Cuthbert Allgood May 8 #69

They are privileged. BannonsLiver May 8 #71

You know them all? Cuthbert Allgood May 8 #76

Going to college is a privilege BannonsLiver May 8 #86

It's a business transaction. Cuthbert Allgood May 8 #87

So you don't think going to college is a privilege? BannonsLiver May 8 #96

No, I don't. Cuthbert Allgood May 8 #97

What on earth makes you think I would give a damn about any of that? BannonsLiver May 8 #85

and out comes the broad brush, tossing all of the protesters into the same basket of denigration, framing each and every Celerity May 8 #82

Where's the lie? BannonsLiver May 8 #88

You are the one who made the expansive, potentially universalised, broad brush claim. Prove it. Celerity May 8 #92

Apparently whiny privileged private college students are a protected class now? AZSkiffyGeek May 8 #89

You must not be too familiar with the backgrounds of many of the students at American universities, including MIT. Celerity May 8 #93

Almost as good as harassing Jews, kidnapping maintenance workers and trashing buildings AZSkiffyGeek May 8 #95

Valid point and accurate comparison re: private property. Cuthbert Allgood May 8 #64

"These people" understood civil disobedience Sympthsical May 8 #25

broad brush lumping of all protesters in 1 basket of negativity, thus stigmatising all protest against Israel's actions Celerity May 8 #28

They stigmatize themselves Sympthsical May 8 #29

again you paint with a broad brush nt Celerity May 8 #30

They'll have their day in court if arrested. jimfields33 May 8 #32

You are the one lumping all protestors in 1 basket, but you make the shallow and false analogy that Nixie May 8 #53

Especially if the things the protestors are doing Prof. Toru Tanaka May 8 #31

Exactly. AZLD4Candidate May 8 #38

Not really Zeitghost May 8 #52

"Congress shall make no law. . ." Private universities, property owners, DU, a grocery store, or your boss AZLD4Candidate May 8 #55

It's a private institution. And the 1A doesn't give protesters the right to threaten students, faculty, or * Oopsie Daisy May 8 #6

Almost all of the protests were peaceful encampments. Voltaire2 May 8 #8

On private property? or off? Oopsie Daisy May 8 #9

Colleges and universities should support free speech. Voltaire2 May 8 #11

Are you suggesting that they do not support "free speech"? Oopsie Daisy May 8 #13

The encampments were almost entirely peaceful. Voltaire2 May 8 #16

It looks like the hate speech and pro-terrorists and their increasing Nixie May 8 #21

Almost. And private property that's "open to the public" does not mean that the owners give up any rights * Oopsie Daisy May 8 #43

Sure, back to my original point, that colleges and universities ought to promote free speech not suppress it. Voltaire2 May 8 #44

Sorry, you're talking in circles. Back to MY original point... 1A doesn't trump all other rights. Oopsie Daisy May 8 #56

Without limit? Happy Hoosier May 8 #15

Opposition to genocide is not antisemitism. Voltaire2 May 8 #18

Predictably, you didn't answer... Happy Hoosier May 8 #20

I wouldn't waste your time. tritsofme May 8 #23

In agreement with TritsofMe JustAnotherGen May 8 #34

The proud boys most certainly have the right to express their shitty opinions in public. Voltaire2 May 8 #45

Would you support the the PB having encampments on campuses? Happy Hoosier May 8 #72

Sure. Voltaire2 May 8 #94

The ACLU would defend them. Cuthbert Allgood May 8 #61

National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie Cuthbert Allgood May 8 #60

Skokie was not private property. Demsrule86 May 8 #65

Yeah, except that isn't the point being made that I responded to. Cuthbert Allgood May 8 #68

I'd argue it's not really the content of the speech that's at issue here... Happy Hoosier May 8 #74

You were arguing content in post 15. Cuthbert Allgood May 8 #77

Thanks for waiting... Happy Hoosier May 8 #81

And if the University rules don't allow unauthorized encampements? Happy Hoosier May 8 #17

The ones that weren't were either arrested or expelled jimfields33 May 8 #33

It was anti-semitic...there are video's and testimony of Jewish kids being refused enterance in college libraries. Demsrule86 May 8 #59

Columbia suspended protesters in 1968. But they are not being suspended for protesting. LeftInTX May 8 #7

I wonder what the Baby Boomers of 1968 Cuthbert Allgood May 8 #62

Again, who cares. BannonsLiver May 8 #70

I'm a baby boomer myself LeftInTX May 8 #73

I don't agree. You can say what you want. But that doesn't mean there won't be consequences. MIT is a private universty. Demsrule86 May 8 #58

This is the "find out" phase. Oopsie Daisy May 8 #109

Tell me you don't grasp what 'free speech' is Ontheboundry May 8 #79

Do you have an understanding of the 1st Amendment & how it applies & doesnt apply? oldsoftie May 8 #84

Yes, I am an attorney, and as I said in response, the principle is the same: elleng May 8 #91

They're breaking several rules & disobeying the decree by the University to NOT occupy the quad oldsoftie May 9 #113

Threatening, and not allowing students in, of a certain persuasion, yagotme May 9 #114

Good. nt LexVegas May 8 #12

1A isn't a Mountainguy May 8 #24

Especially when they have never cared about the First Amendment until now Sympthsical May 8 #26

Good point JustAnotherGen May 8 #37

I've said it non-stop about the First Amendment principles Sympthsical May 8 #40

getting booed off a stage is an expression of free speech. Voltaire2 May 8 #47

Do hecklers get a veto on speech they dislike? tritsofme May 8 #99

No, they get to heckle. Voltaire2 May 8 #100

How about chase the speaker down a hall, and trap them in a room for a while? yagotme May 9 #115

No. Voltaire2 May 9 #117

I've seen a standup comic bomb. MineralMan May 9 #116

Berkeley cancelled the Milo Yiannolpoulos event due to safety concerns. LeftInTX May 9 #121

"Shut up!" LuvLoogie May 8 #36

Looks like these over privileged anti semites found a bit of FAFO BannonsLiver May 8 #50

Agreed JustAnotherGen May 8 #54

Like the action being taken by MIT republianmushroom May 8 #57

Oh that's going to piss off the parents who paid humongous amounts of tuition FakeNoose May 8 #67

80 Grand A Year... ProfessorGAC May 8 #112

Forgive my student loans while I'm protesting...And don't forget to deliver me food while you're at it! PeaceWave May 8 #98

You make an excellent point!! And * Oopsie Daisy May 8 #108

I don't see that campuses have any other choice. lindysalsagal May 8 #110