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In reply to the discussion: MIT suspends student protesters [View all]
Happy Hoosier
(8,984 posts)74. I'd argue it's not really the content of the speech that's at issue here...
... it's whether the exercise of the right becomes disruptive enough that's interfering with the rights of others. Occupying public spaces, causing disruptions, making others feel unsafe are all legitimate reasons to restrict speech in some cases.
And some speech has been classified as threatening enough to NOT be protected by the FA.
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How many other institutions of higher learning are planning to suspend the First Amendment
elleng
May 2024
#2
If they came on to my property and I didn't agree with them yes. I tell trumpers all the time I don't want their
AZLD4Candidate
May 2024
#14
It's disgusting how the civil rights movement is compared to these whiny privileged kids with no real skin in the game.
BannonsLiver
May 2024
#46
I thought it was a terrible comparison too, but when you defend the indefenisble, you need to stretch logic to its
AZLD4Candidate
May 2024
#51
"Those people" weren't whining about getting "humanitarian aid" airdropped from the school cafeteria
tritsofme
May 2024
#22
It's like comparing J6ers to Civil Rights marchers, a comparison that makes no sense and is blatantly offensive.
tritsofme
May 2024
#35
I was specifically addressing the 'it is private property so their rights are forfeit' argument.
Celerity
May 2024
#39
snarky (tag-teaming off the previous poster's use) emojis as the entire body of reply are such a profound rebuttal
Celerity
May 2024
#75
There's no point in engaging with bad faith interlocutors. This is pure unvarnished pointing and laughing.
AnrothElf
May 2024
#78
you accusing me of being a bad faith poster here is risible, with or without my own use of an emoji for emphasis of that
Celerity
May 2024
#80
What can I say? You might take yourself seriously, but the rest of us are not similarly obliged.
AnrothElf
May 2024
#83
'the rest of us'? Wow, I did not know I was dealing with THE poster of record, the voice for all DUers. Should I curtsy?
Celerity
May 2024
#90
Just letting you know that nobody is obliged to take you seriously. Nobody at all. So yes...
AnrothElf
May 2024
#101
that 'not taking me seriously' and offering nothing but a snarky emoji in terms of any response tells the true tale
Celerity
May 2024
#102
Ridicule is a time-honored way of dealing with people who are impossible to take seriously.
AnrothElf
May 2024
#103
Thanks! I really appreciate your awe! Now I'll let you have the last word...
AnrothElf
May 2024
#111
No one has the fucking right to assault anyone regardless of trespassing or private property.
SoFlaBro
May 2024
#118
What do you think dumping chemicals on someone's head and pulling them off of a stool is defined as?
SoFlaBro
May 2024
#120
and out comes the broad brush, tossing all of the protesters into the same basket of denigration, framing each and every
Celerity
May 2024
#82
You are the one who made the expansive, potentially universalised, broad brush claim. Prove it.
Celerity
May 2024
#92
Apparently whiny privileged private college students are a protected class now?
AZSkiffyGeek
May 2024
#89
You must not be too familiar with the backgrounds of many of the students at American universities, including MIT.
Celerity
May 2024
#93
Almost as good as harassing Jews, kidnapping maintenance workers and trashing buildings
AZSkiffyGeek
May 2024
#95
broad brush lumping of all protesters in 1 basket of negativity, thus stigmatising all protest against Israel's actions
Celerity
May 2024
#28
You are the one lumping all protestors in 1 basket, but you make the shallow and false analogy that
Nixie
May 2024
#53
"Congress shall make no law. . ." Private universities, property owners, DU, a grocery store, or your boss
AZLD4Candidate
May 2024
#55
It's a private institution. And the 1A doesn't give protesters the right to threaten students, faculty, or *
Oopsie Daisy
May 2024
#6
Almost. And private property that's "open to the public" does not mean that the owners give up any rights *
Oopsie Daisy
May 2024
#43
Sure, back to my original point, that colleges and universities ought to promote free speech not suppress it.
Voltaire2
May 2024
#44
Sorry, you're talking in circles. Back to MY original point... 1A doesn't trump all other rights.
Oopsie Daisy
May 2024
#56
The proud boys most certainly have the right to express their shitty opinions in public.
Voltaire2
May 2024
#45
I'd argue it's not really the content of the speech that's at issue here...
Happy Hoosier
May 2024
#74
It was anti-semitic...there are video's and testimony of Jewish kids being refused enterance in college libraries.
Demsrule86
May 2024
#59
Columbia suspended protesters in 1968. But they are not being suspended for protesting.
LeftInTX
May 2024
#7
I don't agree. You can say what you want. But that doesn't mean there won't be consequences. MIT is a private universty.
Demsrule86
May 2024
#58
Do you have an understanding of the 1st Amendment & how it applies & doesnt apply?
oldsoftie
May 2024
#84
They're breaking several rules & disobeying the decree by the University to NOT occupy the quad
oldsoftie
May 2024
#113
Oh that's going to piss off the parents who paid humongous amounts of tuition
FakeNoose
May 2024
#67