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In reply to the discussion: Freak out at Texas border patrol checkpoint [View all]Hassin Bin Sober
(26,412 posts)52. Absolutely. Right wing douchebags like this are why we have these internal checkpoints.
But he has a point, kinda.
According to the ACLU, 2/3rds of the US population lives in the 100 mile border zone.
Im sure this clown thinks the ACLU are commies.
https://www.aclu.org/documents/know-your-rights-100-mile-border-zone
Are immigration officials allowed to stop people in places wholly inside the U.S.?
U.S. Customs and Border Protection, the federal agency tasked with patrolling the U.S. border and areas that function like a border, claims a territorial reach much larger than you might imagine. A federal law says that, without a warrant, CBP can board vehicles and vessels and search for people without immigration documentation "within a reasonable distance from any external boundary of the United States." These "external boundaries" include international land borders but also the entire U.S. coastline.
What is a "reasonable distance"?
The federal government defines a "reasonable distance" as 100 air miles from any external boundary of the U.S. So, combining this federal regulation and the federal law regarding warrantless vehicle searches, CBP claims authority to board a bus or train without a warrant anywhere within this 100-mile zone. Two-thirds of the U.S. population, or about 200 million people, reside within this expanded border region, according to the 2010 census. Most of the 10 largest cities in the U.S., such as New York City, Los Angeles, and Chicago, fall in this region.
Some states, like Florida, lie entirely within this border band so their entire populations are impacted.
Are there limitations to immigration officials' power?
The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects against arbitrary searches and seizures of people and their property, even in this expanded border area. Furthermore, as a general matter, these agents' jurisdiction extends only to immigration violations and federal crimes. And, depending on where you are in this area and how long an agent detains you, agents must have varying levels of suspicion to hold you.
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I don't live that far from the border (150 miles from three crossings) and I wonder if that jerk lives near me!
LeftInTX
May 9
#4
Looks like it's at the Eagle Pass Checkpoint. They only reason anyone goes to Eagle Pass is to go watch the border.
LeftInTX
May 9
#8
The border patrol agents would have let the racist pos go if he simply said he was a US citizen.
we can do it
May 9
#57
I'm not. The way the border patrol treated my Tohono o'Odham students in Arizona made me despise every single
AZLD4Candidate
May 9
#22
One of those people who have to shout everything - it makes them more right, I guess.
Liberal In Texas
May 9
#13
Plus the repeated use of the f bomb. Not sure why he seems to think that it enhances his credibility.
wnylib
May 10
#61
I used to do the same thing and I'm a Democrat. I'd ask them to prove they were Americans in Arizona
AZLD4Candidate
May 9
#21
I would posit that this type of attitude and behaviour is extremely problematic (to understate it):
Celerity
May 9
#26
I normally had a bag with a shirt or a dress I'd buy for my wife. I never went for medication unless I needed it there
AZLD4Candidate
May 9
#39
These idiots are first one to say "we need to protect our borders from illegals!
imanamerican63
May 9
#19
I don't answer questions. 9th amendment right to travel, 5th amendment right to remain silent
AZLD4Candidate
May 9
#20
Would love to know how that all ended up. Clearly he was able to post the video somewhere.
Fla Dem
May 9
#25
Obiously set up with his phone recording so he could look supper cool and dangerous.
Biophilic
May 9
#32
What is ironic is that the same bastards that get in the Border Patrol's face about trying to "protect the border" are
Chainfire
May 9
#40
Absolutely. Right wing douchebags like this are why we have these internal checkpoints.
Hassin Bin Sober
May 9
#52
These guys look like Texas Minuteman idiots who patrol the border looking to shoot people crossing without id.
Westcoast4life
May 9
#53