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Thu May 16, 2024, 11:17 PM May 16

Do Americans Remember the Actual Trump Presidency? - Kilgore, New York Magazine [View all]

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No matter what you think of Donald Trump, there is zero doubt that two events during his presidency will forever leap off the pages of history books and dwarf anything else that happened: the outbreak of a pandemic that killed over a million Americans and a mob attack on the U.S. Capitol aimed at preventing Joe Biden’s confirmation as president-elect. But when the New York Times/Siena polling outfit asked voters “to describe the one thing they remembered most from Donald J. Trump’s presidency, only 5 percent of respondents referred to Jan. 6, and only 4 percent to COVID.” 39 percent cited “Trump’s behavior” as most memorable, and another 24 percent named “the economy.”

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The Times’ own analysis of these rather startling numbers attributes them to “recency bias,” suggesting that voters are letting their current concerns (particularly about inflation) distort their memories of the not-so-distant past. But they also suggest that voters have formed a fixed opinion of Trump and his presidency that may be very difficult to change. If COVID and January 6 are not front of mind when voters think of 2020 and 2021, and the economy as it was in 2019 is recalled as Elysian, what does that say about the Biden campaign’s efforts to remind people of Trump’s responsibility for the reversal of Roe v. Wade? Will voters accept that a Very Bad Thing that happened long after Trump left office was actually his fault?

As it happens, a new survey of registered voters was released last week from Navigator Research showing that a sizable number of Americans, incredibly enough, held Biden responsible for “the overturning of Roe v. Wade and the elimination of the federal right to an abortion.” That opinion was held by 34 percent of self-identified independents, 32 percent of Black voters, and 42 percent of Hispanic voters. It helps explain why the Biden campaign is devoting so much energy to connecting the dots between Trump’s Supreme Court appointments and the Dobbs decision. But it also suggests public perceptions of Trump are very hard to change, and that’s a big problem for Democrats.

In the end, unless the mood of the electorate about current conditions in the country gets a lot sunnier, Biden’s reelection prospects depend almost entirely on making this a comparative contest in which a plurality of voters firmly reject Trump based on what they know about the 45th president. You don’t have to hate Trump to observe that he actually took his predecessor’s middling economy and did everything within his power to increase inequality, bungled the federal response to COVID-19 and worsened its human and economic impact, and then became the first losing presidential candidate since 1876 to refuse to concede defeat once the states certified his opponent’s victory. But if persuadable voters dismiss all that and think of him as a foulmouthed, erratic politician who nonetheless showered them with prosperity, then he will be hard to beat.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/do-americans-remember-the-actual-trump-presidency/ar-BB1mkhiD


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I think it is because we have replaced journalism with angertainmemt Walleye May 16 #1
Short attention span. Very short Bristlecone May 17 #2
Memories of TSF give me PTSD. no_hypocrisy May 17 #3
THIS. KPN May 17 #23
no. too numb to remember most of it AllaN01Bear May 17 #4
This is why I'm DownriverDem May 17 #5
Only half of us vote. Even many who do aren't Evolve Dammit May 17 #6
Let's just come right out and say it: Trump followers are the dumbest, least informed people in the country. sop May 17 #7
I find that poll really hard to believe karin_sj May 17 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 17 #27
My main memories birdographer May 17 #9
Trump is a nightmare bmichaelh May 17 #10
I am sorry for the hardship that you have been going through. It was reported that the R's dropped question everything May 17 #21
The strength, and the weakness, of democracy markodochartaigh May 17 #11
They remember cheap gas and low inflation. The Mouth May 17 #12
It is important to emphasize new jobs and higher wages. question everything May 17 #22
It's usually always the economy SomedayKindaLove May 17 #24
correct Skittles May 17 #28
"the twaddle coming from any government agency says inflation should account for." progree May 18 #35
Unfortunately nowforever May 17 #13
i remember that it hurt so good poozwah May 17 #14
it makes no sense and i think something is wrong with the sample pool samsingh May 17 #15
More like the gene pool. LudwigPastorius May 17 #17
NYT polling? intheflow May 17 #16
Such polls are tests of corporate news companies. Corporate news is failing. Hermit-The-Prog May 17 #18
All I remember is the daily (sickening) press conferences that he liked/wanted to lead, and have everyone listen SWBTATTReg May 17 #19
DONALD TRUMP IS AN YoshidaYui May 17 #20
Because we have a sadistic news network that has it in for half of the population. Initech May 17 #25
could say the same about the Supreme Court Skittles May 17 #26
A product of the Trump administration, and Trump was a product of Fox. Initech May 17 #30
Messaging by the Dems just doesn't stick SomedayKindaLove May 17 #29
I'll never forget Marthe48 May 17 #31
Americans do. Magats not so much. nt Xipe Totec May 17 #32
The book just about writes itself! Aussie105 May 17 #33
When they "remember" the economy under Trump, I'm sure they remember a fantasy economy tclambert May 17 #34
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