How dare Democrats actually like Pres. Obama.

[Drunken Irishman]

Those bastards. Next thing you'll tell me is that Chicagoans love their pizza.

It's a conspiracy!

A sham & a mockery!

It's a conspishamockery!

:tinfoilhat:

[zipplewrath]

1. I don't mind

Just wish they'd stop trying to claim he's either progressive or liberal. He's a centrist, virtually defines himself that way, and strategically avoids the label of liberal.

[impik]

16. He's a "centrist" who already did more for progressive/liberal agenda

more than any president beside FDR and LBJ. So you can continue play this labels game, while he'll continue to do a brilliant job and improve your life every day.

[zipplewrath]

21. Um no

But you can continue to claim as such. No on can stop you.

[bkozumplik]

44. which isnt saying alot

He's a center corporatist. You want me to cheer? give me a f'in break.

He's right of the center of the dem party, for sure.

[alcibiades_mystery]

2. Stop suppressing dissent!

The heroic dissenters are merely standing up for the principles that the blind, kool-aid drinking, cheerleading O team are trying to squash, violently as it were, like Nazis. Really like NAZIS!!! You are attempting to VIOLENTLY suppress their freedom of being a dissenting dissenter, who dissents and goes against the grain, swims against the current, doesn't go along with the herd, abjures groupthink of all kind, and generally rebels against authority!!! They are heroes of dissent, just like that Chinese person who stood before the tanks. Yes, they are JUST LIKE THAT PERSON!!!! Why would you throw your lot in with NAZI kool-aid drinking cheerleader O Team dissenter-suppressors rather than joining the heroic dissenting resistance? Is it because you're really a weaker person than the glorious dissenting dissentors? It may well be!!!

:-)

:sarcasm:

[NJmaverick]

6. Well the term I see being tossed about is not Nazis but rather Fascists

[mkultra]

7. YES, They are independent thinkers who happen to all feel the exact same way

slamming Obama day in and day out does NOT equate to contrarian group think. Its just a bunch of free thinkers who happen to agree with each other.


:sarcasm:

[NJmaverick]

9. What I am trying to figure out is how the main tactic of these independent thinkers

is to post the thoughts and ideas of others.

[JTFrog]

18. LOL! n/t

[jefferson_dem]

40. "heroic dissenters"

Delusions of grandeur. :)

[HughMoran]

3. Yeah, well you know my label for him...

"bad dude"

:D

[VMI Dem]

4. I like him too. Don't be ashamed to embrace his center-right politics.

:hi:

[WeDidIt]

20. Barack Obama is a Progressive

regardless of what anonymous posters who claim to be liberal think.

[VMI Dem]

33. Progressives don't oppose gay marriage.

Regardless of what apologists for bigotry think.

[mkultra]

34. then no progressive has ever been elected POTUS

[WeDidIt]

42. I';ve found about half the people who call themselves "Progressive" here

are more interested in liberal ideological purity than they are in progressing a liberal agenda.

[bkozumplik]

46. Can you enlighten us as to the ways Obama has progressed the liberal agenda?

please, dont let us stop you. You claim he's a liberal hero, lets hear it, by all means.

[WeDidIt]

47. HCR, student loan reform

His entire agendathe past 18 months has progressed a liberal agenda.

[zipplewrath]

55. He didn't reform health care

He reformed health insurance. And he did it by enacting the kind of legislative details against which he campaigned. There is nothing in the liberal agenda about mandated health insurance or cadillac taxes. Even HE explained that this was highly similar to the proposals from 1995, written by the GOP as a response to "Hillary Care". There is nothing liberal about a health insurance bill that admits right up front that when it is fully enforced, there will STILL be 25 million uninsured people in this country.

I'll give ya student loan reform, although I'd hardly call that any part of a core "liberal agenda". Just because it isn't right wing doesn't mean it's "liberal".

I don't really understand this desire of the Obama supporters to label him as either liberal or progressive. He is neither, nor wants to be labeled as such. If you enjoy his work so much, embrace and defend it for what it is. It doesn't serve you, or him, to try to relabel it something it is not. If it can stand on it's own, the labels be damned. It leads me to believe that you are aware that he is a centrist, and all that that implies. So you have to go and try to redefine the words, in some sort of Orwellian fashion.

[WeDidIt]

56. Good gravy, you have one fucked up personal definition of liberal

Since you have no clue what is and what is not liberal, any form of discussion with you is now impossible.

Enjoy life.

Goodbye.

[zipplewrath]

60. I'm a bit curious what yours is

I a bit curious what many posters around here are, since they keep calling Obama a liberal. Heck, even Obama doesn't call himself a liberal. Many posters seem to have taken their definitions from the conservatives.

[ima_sinnic]

62. I guess the meme now is that the democratic wing of the corporate party is "liberal"

even though they oppose legalizing marijuana, wouldn't even CONSIDER single-payer health insurance and instead gave health insurers a virtually no-strings-attached legal mandate to rob us, are engaged in occupations in 2 countries that did nothing to us, support a bloated military budget beyond all reasonable, sane necessity and won't consider slashing that, give environmental impact waivers to giant planet-destroying oil companies, give lip service to being "fierce advocates" of GLBT rights while doing nothing for them, call real liberals names that apparently we can't say here on DU and equate them with "extremists," continue to hold kidnapped people without charging them with any crime and lie about it, continue to spy without warrant--somehow now they've suddenly become "liberals" and "progressives."

oh, and progressives are "pragmatic." seems the little wannabes are trying to co-opt the labels they themselves denigrate. they wannabe one of "us," one of The People, isn't that cute?

[zipplewrath]

64. It is strange

Under Clinton they were more than willing to harp against the "left wing radicals". Now they wanna be one.

[bkozumplik]

74. maybe you could read this Robert Reich diary about financial reform

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/05/10/the_white_house_should_stop_pandering_to_the_stree/#more

read that. See the white house actively fighting financial reform?

[Forkboy]

66. Very good.

[mkultra]

78. and that alone should tell you something.

[bkozumplik]

45. anonymous posters...

says a guy named "wedidit." Hey my first name is Brian and my last name is kozumplik, my handle is bkozumplik. Some of us wear our real names with pride. I think everyone should.

[WeDidIt]

51. Dude

You are still some anonymous guy on the internet.

[DRoseDARs]

57. Face Palm is face palming and shaking its head. n/t

[bkozumplik]

73. its not a common name

And you can find me with it. Do I have to show you how to use the frickin people search sites?
I'm not anonymous. whereas "WeDidIt" is anonymous.

[NJmaverick]

5. I have been a Democrat since I was old enough to register as one

I guess I am guilty of being one of those that likes our President and thinks he is doing an outstanding job.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

8. Help! Help! I'm being oppressed!

:eyes:

Can we change the name of this site to "Democratic Unless I Don't Get My Way On Every Single Issue Underground"?

That would be a little more accurate.

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[Clio the Leo]

11. Yeah, but I wouldn't golf with him!

... I tried golf one time, not my thing. Some dumb rule about now allowing heels on the greens.

If he and Michelle want to invite me to join them on a double date to the MOMA, I'd be down for that though. (HINT! HINT! That's right First People! I'm talking to you!)

[TwilightGardener]

12. Nutty, isn't it?

[Better Today]

13. I like Obama just fine. Still think he's doing a shitty, corporatist job as Pres, though.

[NJmaverick]

15. What is the shirtty part? His saving the US economy from ruin?

all the green energy initiatives? Getting healthcare to people who couldn't get it? Pushing through financial reforms? Ending the ban on Stem Cell research? Drawing down the troops in Iraq? Repairing our nation's tattered international reputation? Forcing hospitals to extend visitation rights to same sex couples? Do you object to the fact that he has single handedly doubled the number of woman Supreme Court Justices that have ever been appointed (assuming Kagan wins approval)? Is it all the jobs that are being created?

[impik]

17. You have zero historical perspective.

No other president, except FDR, stood up to corporate America more than this guy. Stop listening to Jane Humster and start looking at the facts.

[girl gone mad]

19. I think you need to take a step back and look at the facts.

They are not on your side.

[WeDidIt]

22. HA!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Oh man, you're fucking killing me!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Oh shit, my fucking side is aching!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[girl gone mad]

29. like omg rofl!

lolz! Who knew meaningless posts could be so fun?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Whheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Hooray!!

[Sebastian Doyle]

63. How the fuck has he "stood up to corporate America"?

By appointing an economic team of Wall $treet and "federal" reserve whores?

By passing a massive corporate welfare program for the insurance industry and calling it "reform"?

By putting MonSatan shills in charge of the department of Agriculture?

By putting an asshole in charge of the Federal Trade Commission who believes you should go to prison for downloading a fucking movie??

How is he opposing corporate America, exsactly?

[ima_sinnic]

68. gee, I wonder where they went?

I was hoping to be enlightened about this myself.

He hasn't "stood up" to corporate America, all he's done is bend over for them.

[Moochy]

70. the shift changed

[phleshdef]

27. And because of posts like this, the word Corporatist has officially lost all meaning.

Good job.

[emulatorloo]

39. Good - because that "word" is a hideous butchery of the English language!

[Jennicut]

23. I am sorry but what Chicagoans call pizza is not real pizza.

It is like some overstuffed mozzarella pie. Real Pizza is on the East Coast, in NY and CT. Apizza. Thin crust, baked in a brick oven. Now that is real pizza. }(
And, oh yeah, DU stands for Democratic Underground, where we discuss and sometimes like certain Democrats (and hate others). Or love/hate simultaneously.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

24. Flamebait! Flamebait!

However, it absolutely correct flamebait!

[Jennicut]

25. Hey, we take our pizza here in CT seriously.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

37. I have TRIED to like Chicago-style pizza....I just can't do it (nt)

[AllentownJake]

26. I'll agree

that deep dish nonsense is not pizza.

[alcibiades_mystery]

30. Real NYC pizza is not cooked in any bourgeois brick oven

It is cooked in giant industrial stainless steel ovens with grease stains smeared on the doors. It is served on paper plates that don't near fit the slice, and thrust into white paper bags that go orange from grease. Maybe that's not the way they do it in Darien, or whatever, but that's how it works in Queens and brooklyn and the bronx and any other place that takes its NYC pizza seriously.

[Jennicut]

32. True. We have that kind here too.

But that brickoven stuff is soooo good. Pepe's, Sally's. Called New Haven style. I guess it is not in most of NY, huh? Oh well.

[alcibiades_mystery]

31. I had the pleasure of growing up in NYC, and now living in Chicago

Chicago pizza is shit, and not pizza at all. It's a disgrace, really. I've been all over the country, and I've never gotten a decent slice of pizza outside NY, CT, and NJ.

NEVER. What the rest of the country calls pizza is total dogshit.

[Jennicut]

48. That is my point. Am I wrong? I have eaten pizza in other parts of the US

and it just is not as good to me. But then maybe we grow up liking what we like. I don't dislike the deep dish but I grew up in an Italian family and lived in CT my whole life so I am used to the thinner crust or the other type of Italian pizza popular in NY (a little more wide and not baked in a brick oven). We do have Greek Pizza here as well...thicker crust. So 3 great types of pizza in one place.

[Dr Morbius]

65. I live in Schaumburg and work in Chicago.

Surely you must know that almost every pizzeria in Chicago serves thin crust, and only some offer deep-dish or pan or stuffed pizza. I can't think of one major pizza joint that doesn't serve thin crust. If you've been foolish enough to believe "Geno's East" or "Pizzeria Uno" represents Chicago pizza, you've been duped; those are tourist traps.

I think there are plenty of fine places in and around the city where one can get good pizza. If you really think we serve "shit" in this town, why the hell don't you leave?

[alcibiades_mystery]

67. Oh, they serve "thin crust" alright

Total shit thin crust. It's awful.

Why should I leave? I have a nice job, and I even like it here. Just because there isn't any good pizza to be had isn't a reason to leave (or run off to the suburbs, ahem). You can't get a decent burrito in NYC, for example, but that's no reason to leave.

Notice that I never said "Geno's East" or "Pizzeria Uno." I know Chicago pizza perfectly well. I've had plenty. It all sucks.

[mopinko]

72. try union pizza in evanston

really authentic italian thin crust brick oven pizza. quattro formaggi. mmmmmmm.

[Dr Morbius]

76. & I wouldn't dismiss Beggar's without trying it. One of the better chains. (nt)

[Oldtimeralso]

80. Beggar's pizza is the best in the USA

It is not tourist trap deep dish"pizza" (although they will make you one of those).
It is basically a south side and south suburban chain with a brand new location near Chicago Union Station. I have eaten pizza in 43 states (including all NE and New England states and have not found any better pizza!

[WeDidIt]

52. The ONLY real pizza is Chicago Pizza

Everything else is ketchup on cardboard compared to the real deal.

[Hippo_Tron]

53. Interestingly enough, Obama's favorite pizza is from St. Louis

http://www.nbcchicago.com/around-town/food-drink/Obama-Cracks-Says-St-Louis-Pizza-Is-Best-Ever.html

[fatbuckel]

59. Actually the best pizza is in Youngstown,Ohio

[DevonRex]

28. Those latte liberals who love Obama will be the downfall

of the WORLD!!!! :tinfoilhat:

[Peacetrain]

35. I like lattes??? who knew

;)

[DevonRex]

36. You have gone over to the dark side if you like lattes and Obama.

Clearly you are an imperialist corporatist DLCer. :rofl: :hi:

[Peacetrain]

41. Well now I can add that to my resume.. I have gone to the DARKSIDE..

Maybe I will become a Sith Lord.. or in my case.. Lady Sith I guess.. :hi:

[fatbuckel]

58. Dark side? was that a racist remark?

:sarcasm:

[Blue-Jay]

38. Damn you, Fartbama!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

43. I like Obama just fine. He' just a Commie Nazi Kenyan who raised my taxes.

[TheKentuckian]

49. I wonder how dare Democrats put profits over people and the status quo over change

I don't care what personalities folks invest their emotions into.

[Tarheel_Dem]

50. I hate him too. So there, you Fascist! btw, I'm tellin' Glenn & Jane on you.

And they'll write a scathing blog, and then you'll see. I hate Obama & Drunken Irishman, and their ass faces. HATE! HATE! HATE!



















HATE!

[Solomon]

54. Well it appears that you can still be a democrat who likes Obama,

but you're not a liberal or progressive if you do.

[spoony]

61. Oh, neat, a foot-stomping thread

That's original.

[Moochy]

71. All Light and No Heat whatsoever

from all my ignoreds.

[Cha]

69. Right..it's not enough

to be constantly raging on the President..no one else can like him, either.

[political_Dem]

75. To some, it is easier to write their own hatred upon the man.

Even worse, their hatred is taken as truth by other like-minded individuals.

[Blue_In_AK]

77. I like him,

I just don't like a lot of his policies. Not surprised though, since it's what I expected.

[FrenchieCat]

79. Well, there's a loud small percentage that don't like him at all,

and they are all here......waiting to pee in just this kind of thread.
I think you've made their day! :)