Where did this come from?

[Turbineguy]

Can anyone help me with this pic? TinEye gives no hits.

[Cronus Protagonist]

1. ummm he's living on scholarship handouts

I think that makes him a recipient of entitlements. "Scrounging loser."

[MrDiaz]

5. you earn scholarships

by making good grades in highschool.

[Cronus Protagonist]

18. Some, yes, or just from being a minority, a native Indian, or...

a host of other special groups of people. And you're supposed to earn good grades in high school. That's the default, not a special situation.

Besides, you and I both know that's a bullshit picture.

[ecstatic]

78. Just want to add that the scholarships for minorities go by merit

as well.

[DaveJ]

24. He's getting free education regardless

It is mathematically impossible for everyone to get the best grades. Should only the best and brightest have freedom from debt?

These neocons pretend to be perfect, like they never make any mistakes. Yeah right. They imply that anyone who makes the slightest error deserves all the pain that comes along with it. Nonsense.

[MrDiaz]

35. on the contrary

It actually is mathematically possible for all students to have the best grade/same grade, although very highly unlikely it is MATHEMATICALLY possible, and on your second note Nobody I have seen has claimed to be "PERFECT" as you say, are you implying that the best and brightest should not be rewarded? If so, why would anyone strive to be the best and the brightest?

[DaveJ]

39. The best should be rewarded for sure

I'm not sure if it is wise to reply to you, since your last argument was on such a ridiculous technically that every student might make the same grade and thus everyone have the best grade?!?!? Wow.

Anyone who is smart enough to get a scholarship ought to be smart enough to understand it was the result of the liberal generosity of others.

Neocons do indeed pretend to be perfect. But they are far from perfect. They are so disgustingly imperfect that they cannot even look at themselves in the mirror, and must make up pretend versions of themselves.

[MrDiaz]

41. LMAO

hey you said it was mathematically impossible, all i said was that mathematically IT IS possible, do you disagree? All i did was disprove what you stated, of course you would be apalled. And if you feel the best SHOULD be rewarded then what is the basis of your arguement. And who exactly is claiming to be perfect, lol I would LOVE to see a single link of someone claiming to be perfect. It's okay don't worry, I know I will be disappointed.

[DaveJ]

43. It IS mathematically impossible

It is mathematically impossible for all students to get the best grades in 'reality' where the students with the best grades get scholarships. In the real world, scholarships are limited, only the students with the best grades get them, and only a certain number of students are able to earn the best grades. It is mathematically impossible for all students to get the best grades in the real world as we know it.

And regarding Repukes claiming to be perfect, it is my opinion that they think they are perfect. I never said they 'say' it but I believe they act that way. You don't need to agree with that, but at least I'm sure we can both agree that Republican political perspective is disgusting right?

[Control-Z]

55. I'm think MrDiaz

just realized he was on the wrong board. I'm afraid you probably blew his little mind when you wrote: "...I'm sure we can both agree that Republican political perspective is disgusting right?"

[ClassWarrior]

54. Why would anyone strive to be the best and the brightest if there was no financial reward?

To be the best and brightest. Not everyone is as greedy as you appear to be.

NGU.

[kctim]

2. Sad that ALL kids aren't taught to live as this one does

[Kaleko]

34. Well, not everyone can be a trained monkey-enabler-collaborator

for the 1%.

:cry:

[joeglow3]

45. Studying and living below your means is a trained monkey?

That is what I did to get where I am today. My folks made too much for financial aid, but not enough to contribute anything toward college. I paid my way through the local state university. I hardly see being responsible as being a trained monkey.

I agree with OWS, and I get what this sign is trying to claim, but it does not change the fact if everyone had this same level of responsibility, we would all be better off (plus, the banks would not be able to anally rape us at every turn).

[Kaleko]

48. You seem to be taking the message by that 53 percenter in the OP at face value.

I don't. I think it's a poorly disguised attempt at discrediting and subverting the very real demands of the protesters worldwide for a more equitable distribution of wealth and political influence.

[calimary]

57. Face value? What face? This person is hiding. Unlike anyone with story signs among the 99%

this person chooses not to reveal his/her identity. Everyone else shows his or her face with this. They stand in the open so you can see who they are. Takes courage. Which for one reason or other this person does not demonstrate.

I suspish.

[kctim]

46. Everbody CAN be responsible though

Stay out of debt and they wouldn't be blaming others for being in debt.

[Kaleko]

49. I wasn't sure whether your first post in this thread was tongue-in-cheek.

Now I see that you really believe what you said there. Amazingly enough.

How about holding Wall Street accountable? Aren't these institutions responsible for waging global financial warfare with the aim of committing social genocide in Greece, in Spain and Italy and elsewhere of late - so as to destabilize the Euro and maintain a rapidly sinking US dollar's value for a little while longer? ...Until that can won't respond to yet another kick down the road and the entire global financial system collapses on our peasant heads.

[kctim]

66. Of course those guilty on Wall Street should be held accountable

but that has nothing to do with individuals being responsible and not piling on debt.

[Avalux]

71. The person holding that poster is a future Wall Streeter.....all about "I".

And that's the mindset that needs to change in this country. The "I got mine, to hell with you" attitude is no longer working.

[CJCRANE]

50. And if the banks stayed out of bad debts

then they wouldn't ask taxpayers to bail them out.

[kctim]

68. Very true

Banks AND individuals would NOT need to seek bail outs or special favors if they stayed out of bad debts.

Kind of why I said people would be better off if they were actually responsible and lived like this person claims.

[Name removed]

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[Ikonoklast]

53. Sad that people believe made-up bullshit.

Sad that right-wingers are here to support said bullshit.

[kctim]

65. So what parts are made-up?

And, despite partisan wishes, facts are NOT determined by political party.

[Ikonoklast]

70. OK, you believe anything posted on the Internet.

Despite partisan wishes, only a fool would do that.

That was a piece of paper and some ink, with zero bona-fides, but you take it at face value.

I got some nice used bridges for sale, you seem to be just the guy that would take them off my hands.

[LanternWaste]

73. Nor are they determined by what's written on a placard.

"facts are NOT determined by political party..."

Nor are they determined by what's written on a placard.

[Blue_Tires]

77. You're taking a leap assuming this is 1. a student and 2. completely true

[Historic NY]

3. If you went to Suny New Paltz adding in all the extras

you would still be under 10k per semester that incudes health insurance & activity fees along with dorm & food service. If 90% was covered and you were working 30 hrs a week at say $8.00 an hour.

What are you spending your money on. I'd say you were lucky.

http://www.newpaltz.edu/financialaid/tuition.cfm

[OswegoAtheist]

22. Yes but...

...having to go to New Paltz is its own special kind of torment ;)

Oswego "Go Lakers!" Atheist

[TygrBright]

4. Leech. MY tax dollars allow that University to be "modestly priced." n/t

[TroglodyteScholar]

67. Bingo.

These people are so ignorant they don't even realize it when they take "handouts."

[TygrBright]

6. Parasite. MY tax dollars allow that savings account to be Federally Insured." n/t

[TygrBright]

7. Socialist. REAL independents work for whatever the Free Market wants to pay. n/t

[TygrBright]

8. Scrounger. MY tax dollars paid for your High School.

[TygrBright]

9. Hypocrite. Better not call the cops if that "cheap apt" is in a bad neighborhood. n/t

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. Deadbeat.

You travel to your classes on roads and sidewalks my taxes paid for.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

11. Loser.

Your air and water and food are safe because I paid to make them that way.

[MrDiaz]

37. LOSER

I understand where everyone is coming from, but since when is doing good in school make you a loser. Humanity is going straight down the shithole.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

44. He's a loser because

he won't acknowledge that nobody succeeds without help. Yay for him that he was able to "do good in school." (The correct phrase is "do well in school," btw.) But he has done that in part because of all the help he got from his country and its taxpayers , one way or another. Only a loser would fail to understand that.

[joeglow3]

47. I don't think his point is that our government doesn't provide anything

The question is if currently provides enough.

I don't want to see college completely free for everyone. We already have enough people paying out the ass for a degree with zero earning potential. Make education free, and you will get a LOT more people earning these degrees. Rather, I would like to see better education of people regarding what a given degree actually equates to after college.

[ClassWarrior]

56. In other words, you see college as a job factory? Only a means to financial reward?

Wow. And you're a progressive?

NGU.

[joeglow3]

75. Then, get ready to continue falling behind China and other countries

Right or wrong, that is where it is heading. We need to worry more about providing health care, food, etc. to our most venerable WAAAAY before we worry about giving someone a free education in Greek Mythology because they like it...

[dtexdem]

12. Too bad he didn't learn anything.

A part of the 99% but in denial.

[Lint Head]

13. No face fake.

[dionysus]

14. all these "handwritten" 53%er notes seem to havetheexact same "handwriting"

[Phentex]

15. Good reading here...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=2117608&mesg_id=2117608


and there was another thread about it before that but I can't find it.

[QED]

19. Here's the thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2122521

[Phentex]

29. Thanks. I just found one of the originals...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=439&topic_id=2102948

[a simple pattern]

16. I thought that was a girl.

Big buttons, small hands? The printing is suspiciously similar to that on some of the other images, maybe it isn't even real.

[QED]

17. Astroturf? Another Koch-product?

I read somewhere that the Wall Streeters have PR firms trying to counter OWS and others. This seems to fit right into this. It actually sounds like Cain - if you're not rich, it's your fault.

Watch Fox play this up.

[lunasun]

20. afp think tank most likely imo if you believe these come see my bridge 4 sale

[louis-t]

21. I think we will end up finding these things were made by

AFP, Freedom Works, or some other right-wing 'think tank'. 30 hrs. a week at "barely above minimum wage" is under $200 a week after taxes. His wages would barely cover rent in most places. How does he eat, pay insurance, and put gas in the car?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

23. The P.T, Barum Theological Acadmy for Ayn Rand Worship.

[uppityperson]

25. someone's fearful imagination? If you work for min wage, yes, you are the 99%.

as for the rest, whomever made this up doesn't understand what this is about.

[Major Hogwash]

26. It wasn't my decision to be shit on by the banks and corporations for 30 years, kid.

I'm still part of the 99% after working my ass off to the bone for 35 years.
When Reagan got into office and they started fooking around with the tax code, I got screwed.
Then they said "save for your future, put your money away into an IRA".
So, I did that.
But, about 4 years later, George H.W. Bush came along and said "no, no, no, we don't like IRA's, use a 401K plan."
So, after paying a penalty -- like I didn't see that coming clear down the fooking boulevard -- I put it into a 401K plan.
Then Clinton came along and well, Glass-Steagall was in the banks' way, so it went out the window in 1999.

Then under George Bush in 2006, my bank collapsed, and you know that little 401K plan that I had, my little nest egg that I was counting on to be there in 2020?
Well by 2008 it was worth about 20 cents on the dollar of what it was supposed to be worth!
And that was after saving for the future after more than 20 years of pinching pennies!!

Then my bank was swallowed up by some larger bank, and it had no obligation to restore the value of the 410K plan as it wasn't their fault that the smaller bank had taken risks, according to their bankruptcy papers.
The balance sheets of banks that come out of bankruptcy are very interesting when it turns out that the bank isn't worth the paper their bankruptcy papers were written on.

Yeah, kid, you can shoot your mouth off at Facebook, but when the banks bend you over when you turn 30 years old, come back and tell me all about it.
Because if you recover from that, they'll bend you over again when you turn 40 years old by using some new trick their lawyers dreamed up, and there won't be a damned thing you can do about it!

Then, while you're counting pennies to pay the dentist, they'll send your job overseas, and it won't matter how hard of a worker you are, you'll be out in the cold.

Enjoy your time as a future young Republican, because it won't last long!!!

[Norrin Radd]

59. You need to write that on spiral notebook and take a pic for the

"WE ARE THE 99 PERCENT" tumblr

http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/

[MilesColtrane]

27. It came from some Tea Bagger's fevered imagination?

Or, maybe their ass?

[kestrel91316]

28. My money is on it being an astroturf fake. A 1%ers' hireling.

[slackmaster]

30. The Internet

Do I get a prize?

[rurallib]

31. Come back in 2 years r. Not 99%, and tell us what a great job you have

or if you are still saying "Would you like fries with that?"

[JVS]

32. That poor asshole doesn't realize that he's not in the 1% nor will he likely to be.

[Canuckistanian]

33. Yeah, right

When I was in college I had life all figured out, too. Then reality hit me.

[Arugula Latte]

36. This is implying that OWSers are asking for handouts. Total bullshit and a diversion of the message.

[coalition_unwilling]

38. RW agitprop. If the person holding this is attending a state

institution of higher education, he or she is receiving massive taxpayer subsidies to cover tuition and fees, independently of any other financial aid he or she may be receiving. (That's how the land grant colleges and universities work.) So something was handed to this ungrateful nascent fascist whether he or she expected it.

All a bunch of lies, I suspect. And phrasing is too much like other documents on the 'We are the 53%' sites that I suspect common authorship of all of them, probably some hack hired by the Koch brothers expressly for that purpose.

[Liberal_in_LA]

40. There is a rightwing version of the 99 percenters website. I think it's called the 53%

[RegieRocker]

42. Boy that college edumacation didn't teach him anything.

He is part of the 99%

[glinda]

52. Those hands have never worked a day in their lives. Looks like a model.

[otohara]

58. Hope He Gets A Decent Wage Some Day

otherwise he'll be living on the cheap for years, possibly decades.

[Union Scribe]

60. Scholarships? What a charity-sucking leech

Honestly, if he thinks living in poverty is "how it's supposed to work," the fucker isn't going to "get it" any time soon.

[chillspike]

61. Can't help but notice they don't identify themselves

If that's all true, and their Spartan attitude in the face of corporate exploitation scores no points with me, why remain faceless and nameless?

[MrScorpio]

62. He should just bleat, Baby!

[rucky]

63. How many different ways can they say "I got mine, screw you"?

[Ferretherder]

64. I've worked in lower level publishing pre-production, and I'm here to tell you...

...this is DEFINITELY NOT some 'home-grown', amateur, 'spur-of-the-moment' stuff. This is very slick, made to look like it's grass-roots imagery - note the 'back-lighting' in the photo! Total, 100% bullshit!

Epic fail.

[highplainsdem]

69. So he's saying that college students can graduate debt free if all but 10% of the typical cost of a

state public university is paid for by someone else.

I'm sure a lot of college students would agree with that.

Now let him explain just how all the kids who have been told they need college degrees will be able to get that much of their college costs paid for, so they don't have to go into debt.

I had a Regents scholarship so I didn't have to use money from part-time jobs I got to pay tuition, but I was well aware most students weren't that lucky.

The idiot holding that sign -- he is an idiot even if he really did get those scholarships -- seems unaware that scholarship money is always limited.

[TheKentuckian]

72. Likely fake and if real then certainly a fortunate exception.

With the price of even state schools, the availability of scholarships, the massive unemployment, the price of rent, and the cost of basic essentials like food, power, water, and yes internet access for a student, particularly one who is full time trying to work near full time that no way can depend on libraries because homework has to be around the grinding schedule.

Plus, the claim is in addition to stringing this all together for around 10k, they are saving.


I'm not interested in I did that in the 70's, 80's, or even the 90's because it isn't the same ball game and wasn't especially feasible in the past either. Possible? Yes. Plausible? Not very. Not at all because to pretend this is doable 90% of school costs must be covered and I know plenty that got "decent" grades that got no such aid.
Hell, I went to a state school when it was much cheaper, my family was beyond busted so I got grant money too, and was Who's Who twice, scored high on the standardized tests, worked through, and still wasn't debt free.

What we have at the very best is an outlier and at worst just a liar.

[treestar]

74. self righteousness is never attractive

and it's probably not even true.

Why do we insist that we should have to work really, really, really hard for a pittance? The fact that people are so proud of that allows Wall Street to make this some type of moral example.

And he's attacking straw men, since there isn't anyone saying they automatically deserve and iPod, etc.

[tjwash]

76. That's a good little lap-dog...yes you are...yes you are!!

Good boy...direct your bitter ire at those protesting an unjust slanted system.....while saying nothing about bankers that give themselves billions in bonuses with our taxpayer money that keeps that college moderately priced, and contributes to those scholarships.

Good boy **scratches it behind its right ear** you wuv those that got rich for doing little more than crashing the economy and lobbying to change the rules so that they can profit from it as well, don't you? Don't you??.

Awwww...isn't it the cutest wittle thing?

That smells like fake astroturf it left on the living room floor though.