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Doodley

(9,089 posts)
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 10:57 AM Dec 2017

Why is Tom Steyer doing what Democratic lawmakers should be doing?

Where is the chorus of outrage by Democratic lawmakers over the tax plan? I keep seeing Tom Steyer ads, but I have not seen one single Democratic ad. I have not heard much outrage. I am not seeing a strategy for communication to the American people about the tax bill.

A new poll shows a third of the population support it. Are you kidding me? That figure should be in single digits. This tax scam is the antithesis of Democratic values. It takes from the poor, the sick and the vulnerable and it gives to the rich, and it is driven by somebody who boasts that his multiple bankruptcies are a good thing. If Democratic lawmakers can't get their messaging out over this, when can they?



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Why is Tom Steyer doing what Democratic lawmakers should be doing? (Original Post) Doodley Dec 2017 OP
Excellent and disturbing question. Golden Raisin Dec 2017 #1
And it was answered... DemocracyMouse Dec 2017 #30
Why do people think that Democratic politics means putting on tough talking TV shows? FSogol Dec 2017 #2
What do you mean by "tough talking TV show?" Doodley Dec 2017 #3
TV shows where people talk tough. emulatorloo Dec 2017 #7
"We should fix everything. That's what I would do!" FSogol Dec 2017 #9
It isn't about fixing everything. It is about ripping apart a bill that is going to be devastating Doodley Dec 2017 #23
Dem lawmakers are speaking out. They don't have big ad budgets like billionaire Steyer, and emulatorloo Dec 2017 #4
They don't need to speak out. They need to channel our anger out instead. Blue_Adept Dec 2017 #8
I hear frustration and anger from Dems as they speak out. emulatorloo Dec 2017 #11
How about Pelosi and Schumer TheCowsCameHome Dec 2017 #14
Yes, and they need to present ordinary people and talk about how they will be adversely Doodley Dec 2017 #20
They're still playing the same game. They're still playing at politics when much more is at stake. Blue_Adept Dec 2017 #16
Yes, passiveness is not a call to action or a vote winner. Doodley Dec 2017 #19
I'm glad too. Steyer was a major donor to Martin O'Malley's campaign. n/t FSogol Dec 2017 #10
Democrats can't find the money to run a campaign on the same scale as Tom Steyer? Doodley Dec 2017 #22
Steyer would probably love to awesomerwb1 Dec 2017 #31
Keeping their powder dry, TheCowsCameHome Dec 2017 #5
... emulatorloo Dec 2017 #6
Here's what I don't understand. HRC got over 65 millions votes underthematrix Dec 2017 #12
Most won't ever hear of it Blue_Adept Dec 2017 #18
No it's not meaningless. Twitler is a tv reality president. It will matter to him. It will phuck underthematrix Dec 2017 #25
It'll matter to him? He'll never even hear of it. Blue_Adept Dec 2017 #26
There's a tweet for that... PunkinPi Dec 2017 #28
Thanks for posting that. Yes, Trump takes note of all criticisms. Doodley Dec 2017 #33
You're welcome, that's one thing he is consistent on. nt PunkinPi Dec 2017 #34
Why haven't the Democrats flooded the news talk shows with surrogates speaking out against this tax world wide wally Dec 2017 #13
Wut? And alienate their (R) pals? TheCowsCameHome Dec 2017 #15
Exactly. Trump won because people believed (wrongly IMO) that he was passionate about Doodley Dec 2017 #17
By "doing" you mean "advocating a meaningless symbolic vote to make liberals feel good"? brooklynite Dec 2017 #21
This is about Steyer's attacks on the tax bill. Doodley Dec 2017 #24
And it would still be more useful for him Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2017 #27
Tell me the name of the website that appears in the ad brooklynite Dec 2017 #29
What website are you talking about? What is still his goal? Doodley Dec 2017 #32
Needtoimpeach.com brooklynite Dec 2017 #35

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
30. And it was answered...
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 12:18 PM
Dec 2017

...by Warren and Sanders who recently, and together, published a similar critique via the New York Times. Had they Steyer's money they might have hired a media team and placed TV ads too.

Or do Warren, Sanders and others of their caliber and conscience feel they have to toe some invisible line by NOT sticking out with a potent televised PSA?? Like a talented employee who needs to keep low to avoid becoming a target of jealous, less talented, passive aggressive types? Just speculating...

FSogol

(45,484 posts)
9. "We should fix everything. That's what I would do!"
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:12 AM
Dec 2017


And then Tom Steyer waved his magic money-for-TV-commercials wand and everyone lived happily ever after!

Doodley

(9,089 posts)
23. It isn't about fixing everything. It is about ripping apart a bill that is going to be devastating
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:41 AM
Dec 2017

for tens of millions of people.

emulatorloo

(44,121 posts)
4. Dem lawmakers are speaking out. They don't have big ad budgets like billionaire Steyer, and
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:04 AM
Dec 2017
media tends to under-report what Democrats in congress say in favor of amplifying GOP'ers and their talking points.

Steyer's a billionaire so he can afford to make these ads and get them on TV. I am glad he's out there doing that.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
8. They don't need to speak out. They need to channel our anger out instead.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:11 AM
Dec 2017

They're all still playing by the normal rules as the rage grows.

emulatorloo

(44,121 posts)
11. I hear frustration and anger from Dems as they speak out.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:17 AM
Dec 2017

"Speaking out" and "expressing anger" often go hand in hand. They aren't polar opposites as you seem to suggest.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
14. How about Pelosi and Schumer
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:27 AM
Dec 2017

and all the congress critters they can muster up call a high-noon presser on the front steps of the Capitol and invite all the media?

They are so afraid of upsetting "our friends across the aisle" (How I HATE when they use that expression)

Doodley

(9,089 posts)
20. Yes, and they need to present ordinary people and talk about how they will be adversely
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:37 AM
Dec 2017

affected in contrast to Trump and his rich friends.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
16. They're still playing the same game. They're still playing at politics when much more is at stake.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:33 AM
Dec 2017

They're showing frustration, not anger. And I mean the kind of rabble rousing anger that's needed, such as what we've seen from politicians in the past.

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
31. Steyer would probably love to
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 12:42 PM
Dec 2017

fund ads for Dems don't you think?

Dems need to get very creative and more vocal on social media which is a war the russian Republicans and russian bots appear to be winning.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
12. Here's what I don't understand. HRC got over 65 millions votes
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:17 AM
Dec 2017

but the NeedToImpeach still has not reached 4 million signers. What the phuck is wrong with people?

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
18. Most won't ever hear of it
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:35 AM
Dec 2017

And I've barely heard of it myself even while perusing these parts regularly daily. And if it's just a petition, most won't sign onto that. Even as a Hillary voter myself I wouldn't bother with a petition because it's meaningless.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
25. No it's not meaningless. Twitler is a tv reality president. It will matter to him. It will phuck
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:44 AM
Dec 2017

with head and that's worth more than you imagine. People in the streets peacefully protesting and a petition with 100 million signers. That's what would phuck with a thug like Twitler and his Kremlin Klan.

We need to express our objection to this criminal government in every way possible.

PunkinPi

(4,875 posts)
28. There's a tweet for that...
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 12:14 PM
Dec 2017



"Wacky & totally unhinged Tom Steyer, who has been fighting me and my Make America Great Again agenda from beginning, never wins elections!" - Oct 27, Donald J. Trump?

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
13. Why haven't the Democrats flooded the news talk shows with surrogates speaking out against this tax
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:26 AM
Dec 2017

Bill?
That is what Trump did for two weeks leading up to the election and it worked out pretty well for him. I see a couple a day, but I mean "FLOOD" them

Doodley

(9,089 posts)
17. Exactly. Trump won because people believed (wrongly IMO) that he was passionate about
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:34 AM
Dec 2017

he was talking about.

brooklynite

(94,546 posts)
21. By "doing" you mean "advocating a meaningless symbolic vote to make liberals feel good"?
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:38 AM
Dec 2017

If Steyer wants to impeach Trump, he should spend the money he's wasting on getting Democrats elected so they hold the House and Senate.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
27. And it would still be more useful for him
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:55 AM
Dec 2017

to use that money to elect more Democrats. There's not a whole lot Democrats can do right now to stop this Tax scam and it's already massively unpopular with the public, but they can do more in 2018 and 2020, especially with a Democratic President and Congress, to reverse it.

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