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kpete

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Sun Dec 24, 2017, 09:59 AM Dec 2017

TRUMP'S MOLL

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I though of old-time gangsters and I google “who finished every sentence with ‘see’?” It was Edward G. Robinson who was in the film Key Largo. Then, I google images of Edward G. Robinson. And, just to cover my bases, I read his Wikipedia page, which I do for everyone I’m going to cover or who inspires a cartoon. Honestly though, the true inspiration is probably the caricature of him in the 1946 Bugs Bunny cartoon “Racketeer Rabbit.” I also googled gangster and 1920s slang for “party,” but I couldn’t find one.

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TRUMP'S MOLL (Original Post) kpete Dec 2017 OP
so true heaven05 Dec 2017 #1
Damon Runyon was the originator of what is now considered "Gangster speak". Hugin Dec 2017 #2
Trump is a "Hooray Henry". Hugin Dec 2017 #3

Hugin

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2. Damon Runyon was the originator of what is now considered "Gangster speak".
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 10:15 AM
Dec 2017


In fact,' Sam the Gonoph says, 'I long ago come to the conclusion that all life is six to five against.'
– Damon Runyon, 'A Nice Price'.



"When you say, 'they brought in the dream team, you're using his slang. Did your boss give a co-worker the 'heave-ho'? Was the rejected proposal a case of 'no dice'? Does your favourite TV star have charm 'in spades'? You're talking Runyonese, you know.

He drank. He gambled. He once ran into Pancho Villa in a bar. Later, he followed Black Jack Pershing around, while Pershing followed Villa in a vain attempt to catch him. He turned baseball into poetry and gunsels and taxi dancers into laugh-out-loud comedy and handkerchief-wringing pathos. He changed the way we think of gangster talk, and he inspired a literary prize.

His name was Damon Runyon, and even if you've never heard of him, you've probably heard of something that he wrote."

From: https://h2g2.com/edited_entry/A87792736

"Alfred Damon Runyon (October 4, 1880 – December 10, 1946) was an American newspaperman and short story writer.

He was best known for his short stories celebrating the world of Broadway in New York City that grew out of the Prohibition era. To New Yorkers of his generation, a "Damon Runyon character" evoked a distinctive social type from the Brooklyn or Midtown demi-monde. The adjective "Runyonesque" refers to this type of character as well as to the type of situations and dialog that Runyon depicted. He spun humorous and sentimental tales of gamblers, hustlers, actors, and gangsters, few of whom go by "square" names, preferring instead colorful monikers such as "Nathan Detroit", "Benny Southstreet", "Big Jule", "Harry the Horse", "Good Time Charley", "Dave the Dude", or "The Seldom Seen Kid". His distinctive vernacular style is known as "Runyonese": a mixture of formal speech and colorful slang, almost always in present tense, and always devoid of contractions. He is credited with coining the phrase "Hooray Henry", a term now used in British English to describe an upper-class, loud-mouthed, arrogant twit.

Runyon's fictional world is also known to the general public through the musical Guys and Dolls based on two of his stories, "The Idyll of Miss Sarah Brown" and "Blood Pressure". The musical additionally borrows characters and story elements from a few other Runyon stories, most notably "Pick The Winner". The film Little Miss Marker (and its two remakes, Sorrowful Jones and the 1980 Little Miss Marker) grew from his short story of the same name.

Runyon was also a well-known newspaper reporter, covering sports and general news for decades for various publications and syndicates owned by William Randolph Hearst. Already famous for his fiction, he wrote a well-remembered "present tense" article on Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Presidential inauguration in 1933 for the Universal Service, a Hearst syndicate, which was merged with the co-owned International News Service in 1937."

The Wiki article about Runyon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damon_Runyon

Hugin

(33,120 posts)
3. Trump is a "Hooray Henry".
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 10:17 AM
Dec 2017


"Hooray Henry", a term now used in British English to describe an upper-class, loud-mouthed, arrogant twit.

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