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Trump's retaliation against McCabe is abuse of power, and an impeachable offense. (Original Post) L. Coyote Dec 2017 OP
Absolutely. dalton99a Dec 2017 #1
Witness intimidation XRubicon Dec 2017 #2
And the bots are on the job: L. Coyote Dec 2017 #3
What's the deal with Asian bots? ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #21
Far more difficult for Twitter to determine they are bots L. Coyote Dec 2017 #23
We don't know where they originate, do we? ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #32
They are Trump's bot army. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #35
Paul Ryan and his gang will get right on that. DavidDvorkin Dec 2017 #4
Three FBI officials who corroborate Comey re Trump's loyalty pledge - ALL being *attacked* L. Coyote Dec 2017 #5
Andrew McCabe could be a key witness to Special Counsel Mueller's investigation L. Coyote Dec 2017 #7
THREADS: McCabe testifies Comey told him about Trump obstruction. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #9
K & R chia Dec 2017 #6
Yes, it is.. mountain grammy Dec 2017 #8
So many MyOwnPeace Dec 2017 #10
Trump will destroy anyone and anything to save his own neck. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #11
He is beyond contempt. BSdetect Dec 2017 #12
Trump more than anyone has revealed the anachronism that is the GrOPers. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #13
uggg just stop rtracey Dec 2017 #14
Yes, the GOP Congress will bring impeachment charges against Trump. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #16
They are currently trying to discredit Mueller with Strzok, McCabe, and Ohr narratives... fallout87 Dec 2017 #40
Exactly. We have no shortage of impeachable offenses. thesquanderer Dec 2017 #17
Watch that change as the charging docs and indictments are revealed. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #20
I believe (and fervently hope) you are right. triron Dec 2017 #29
He sure doesn't show any respect for a career government servant bucolic_frolic Dec 2017 #15
That would matter shanny Dec 2017 #18
kick for visibility triron Dec 2017 #19
Trump's Twitter feed is the gift that keeps on giving. Merry Christmas Robert Mueller. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #22
kick again triron Dec 2017 #24
"When you're attacking FBI agents because you're under criminal investigation, you're losing" L. Coyote Dec 2017 #25
McCabe will still be a witness Iliyah Dec 2017 #26
Comey tweets and retweets: Trump "impugning the integrity of the FBI ..." L. Coyote Dec 2017 #27
so this is impeachable offense number what? triron Dec 2017 #28
kick again triron Dec 2017 #30
I love these Robert Mueller Memes.. Cha Dec 2017 #31
Just about everything he does is an impeachable offense. Kablooie Dec 2017 #33
This fallout87 Dec 2017 #41
I said that Trump would do this. Destroy McCabe. Whoever leaked McCabe's plans... Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #34
McCabe isn't destroyed, and won't be destroyed by lies and bots. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #39
Lest we forget, Trump interviewed McCabe to replace Comey. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #36
"And don't get used to that title". SergeStorms Dec 2017 #37
K&R Scurrilous Dec 2017 #38

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
23. Far more difficult for Twitter to determine they are bots
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 02:44 PM
Dec 2017

is what I suspect. It is something new, now that Twitter is killing the Russian bot army.
Trump's bot army is trying to maintain control of trends in the face of severe casualties.
Bots really made a difference during the campaign, determining trends and burying true reporting.
A protester beaten in the crowd at Trump's behest did not get reported, swamped out by bots.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
32. We don't know where they originate, do we?
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 07:56 PM
Dec 2017

Russia bounced off Asian servers, or does Pooty have Asian recruits as well?

You know, I could stand the former, but the idea of the latter makes me ill. Pooty already has his fingers in too many countries.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
5. Three FBI officials who corroborate Comey re Trump's loyalty pledge - ALL being *attacked*
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 11:45 AM
Dec 2017

and Trump is generating FAKE bullshit to intimidate a federal official and a witness against him.








L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
9. THREADS: McCabe testifies Comey told him about Trump obstruction.
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 12:07 PM
Dec 2017

These are the threads the Trump bots are trying to push down page, and they are accomplishing it.
The main Twitter feed is dominated by Trumpian Fascist Media on this topic thanks to the bots.




1/ In the story above, @mkraju of @CNN reports that McCabe told Congress that @Comey told him about his conversations with Trump shortly after they happened. That’s important because those conversations appear to be the centerpiece of Mueller’s obstruction investigation.

2/ Obstruction also appears to be Trump’s greatest legal liability at this time, given what we know publicly, although whether a sitting President can be indicted is a hotly debated legal question that no one can definitively answer.

3/ But let’s say that there was a trial concerning obstruction. Would Comey’s statements to McCabe come into evidence? Probably, even though someone’s statements out of court (such as Comey’s statements to McCabe) usually aren’t admissible as evidence.

4/ Although the general rule is that “hearsay” (statements made out of court) can’t be testified to in court, there are many exceptions. One of those is for “prior consistent statements.”

5/ So if Comey testifies as to what Trump told him (which is proper because Trump’s words can be used against him) and the defense team attack’s Comey’s credibility, Comey’s prior statements to McCabe can be used to show that he didn’t make up his testimony about what Trump said.

6/ If Trump’s team didn’t attack Comey’s credibility at all, instead mounting a different kind of defense, McCabe couldn’t testify about what Comey told him.

7/ As a practical matter, McCabe’s potential testimony would be very important in an obstruction trial of Trump. (Or anyone else, as long as they were a co-conspirator of Trump or there was another reason why Trump’s words could be used.)

8/ It would be hard to defend an obstruction case while accepting all of Comey’s testimony and making no attack on him. Although a jury would likely find Comey to be more credible than Trump, good cross-examination could create doubt, while letting him go unchallenged would hurt.

9/ That said, given that Comey briefed McCabe and other FBI leaders soon thereafter, their testimony backing up Comey’s account could be devastating. The fact that Comey briefed his staff shortly afterward would put Trump’s team in a tough spot at a trial.

10/ That could be one reason why Comey briefed them. He is savvy and spent a career in law enforcement, so when he saw conversations that were problematic, he wrote memos and told others to create a record that could be used later. That’s what FBI agents are trained to do. /end



Jim Jordan says "everything that I've heard (from McCabe) reinforces what I believed before" about whether Clinton was treated favorably by FBI. Other Rs agree. But they declined to provide details of confidential interview

Comey told Senate Intel he briefed senior leadership about all his conversations with Trump soon after; McCabe confirmed he was one of those people

McCabe leaves the House grilling after 9 hours - this after an eight hour session with House Intel this week. Both sides see ammunition from his testimony


https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/943995725825937408.html

MyOwnPeace

(16,887 posts)
10. So many
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 12:13 PM
Dec 2017

presents that Santa can deliver, even if they are a little late - and, NO, there won't be any coal, no matter what IQ45 promised!

BSdetect

(8,989 posts)
12. He is beyond contempt.
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 12:25 PM
Dec 2017

He should be removed based on that threat alone.

What a vile monster.

The GOP is keeping him despite all this crap.

They are even worse now.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
13. Trump more than anyone has revealed the anachronism that is the GrOPers.
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 12:56 PM
Dec 2017

Theirs is the formula for creating feudalism. These people belong in the middle of Dark Ages with their Inquisitional tactics, falsehoods, castles, and wealth concentration.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
14. uggg just stop
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 01:03 PM
Dec 2017

Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, Impeachable, is all we hear..... face facts, this fucking congress just passed the tax bill without batting an eye, knowing it will blow up the country and destroy the healthcare of many. DO YOU HONESTLY THINK THIS GOD-DAMNED GOP- CONTROLLED CONGRESS WILL EVER BRING IMPEACHMENT CHARGES.....lets focus on getting the house and senate turned to the democrats, then we can talk impeachment.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
16. Yes, the GOP Congress will bring impeachment charges against Trump.
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 01:10 PM
Dec 2017

Just allow Mueller to do his thing and bring the evidence forward. Then they will have no other choice when faced with the facts.
Rats always jump off a sinking ship, even if they wait until the last moment, and swim to survive. They will still lose Congress though.

 

fallout87

(819 posts)
40. They are currently trying to discredit Mueller with Strzok, McCabe, and Ohr narratives...
Mon Dec 25, 2017, 04:22 PM
Dec 2017

You think they are just going to agree with Mueller? Nope. This congress will never impeach Trump. Too afraid of his base.

thesquanderer

(11,953 posts)
17. Exactly. We have no shortage of impeachable offenses.
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 01:27 PM
Dec 2017

Only a shortage of people in congress willing to consider them.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
20. Watch that change as the charging docs and indictments are revealed.
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 02:24 PM
Dec 2017

Mueller has cooperating witnesses, surveillance, foreign intel, and a lot of docs. This is going to be unparalleled in US political history.

bucolic_frolic

(42,659 posts)
15. He sure doesn't show any respect for a career government servant
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 01:09 PM
Dec 2017

This is now vindictive obstruction

In a divorce it would prompt protection from abuse order!

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
26. McCabe will still be a witness
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 04:35 PM
Dec 2017

and t-rump is still assholes soon to be out of the WH and in custody.

triron

(21,914 posts)
28. so this is impeachable offense number what?
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 06:29 PM
Dec 2017

Plus he got into office by conspiring with a foreign adversary. And who knows what else.
Yet MSM still acts like he is "legitimate"! Yeah legitimate POS.

Kablooie

(18,571 posts)
33. Just about everything he does is an impeachable offense.
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 09:39 PM
Dec 2017

He's got a list of impeachable offenses as long as his nose.

They don't mean anything unless someone is ready to impeach and that ain't happening any time soon, bub.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
34. I said that Trump would do this. Destroy McCabe. Whoever leaked McCabe's plans...
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 10:07 PM
Dec 2017

I thought at the time that letting McCabe's plans be known was not a good thing. That did not do McCabe any favors. And McCabe should not have told anyone other than his family.

No one is going to do anything. The country is under the control of a dictator, a tyrant...ruining lives and careers out of personal animosity and revenge for being investigated for his own actions.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
39. McCabe isn't destroyed, and won't be destroyed by lies and bots.
Mon Dec 25, 2017, 04:17 PM
Dec 2017

But, McCabe's testimony has destroyed Trump, that's why they are going after him. Trump is also screwing himself on Twitter.


SergeStorms

(18,882 posts)
37. "And don't get used to that title".
Mon Dec 25, 2017, 03:26 AM
Dec 2017

Damned straight! Federal prisoner #379666 has a nice ring to it though.

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