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Tue Dec 26, 2017, 12:06 PM

 

Impeachment isn't enough. We need a CONVICTION.

We have to GOTV next year so we have a Dem majority and impeachment, no....not just impeachment, but PROSECUTION.

Bill Clinton was impeached. That means nothing.

We need Trump REMOVED FROM OFFICE.

I mean it. Because I can't take this anymore.

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Reply Impeachment isn't enough. We need a CONVICTION. (Original post)
MariaCSR Dec 2017 OP
Lee-Lee Dec 2017 #1
elfin Dec 2017 #12
dalton99a Dec 2017 #2
C_U_L8R Dec 2017 #3
Lurks Often Dec 2017 #4
Tobin S. Dec 2017 #5
Vinca Dec 2017 #6
NotASurfer Dec 2017 #7
maxsolomon Dec 2017 #8
duforsure Dec 2017 #9
Orsino Dec 2017 #10
elias7 Dec 2017 #11
Skittles Dec 2017 #13

Response to MariaCSR (Original post)

Tue Dec 26, 2017, 12:13 PM

1. We may be better off with just impeachment

 

If he is removed that leaves Pence in office and leaves the possibility of a totally different ticket on the ballot in 2020 that may not even include Pence.

We stand a better chance of winning in 2020 with Trump on the ticket than with him off.

Impeached, further tarnished and further shown for the garbage he is and still on the GOP ballot in 2020 is our best possible scenario.

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Response to Lee-Lee (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 26, 2017, 01:06 PM

12. Also been thinking along these lines

However, need to figure out how to relieve him of his ill-gotten gains. The convictions that matter to him are financial. Those could come either by feds or states.

Also, need to go after his best friends, the oligarchs of Russia.

He might just relish a conviction by "loser libs" that he can crow about in other remunerative venues ala books, tv etc., shilling to his crazy believers.

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Response to MariaCSR (Original post)

Tue Dec 26, 2017, 12:16 PM

2. If impeachment gets people out to vote, use it.

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Response to MariaCSR (Original post)

Tue Dec 26, 2017, 12:22 PM

3. Tribunal has a nice ring to it

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Response to MariaCSR (Original post)

Tue Dec 26, 2017, 12:28 PM

4. Conviction isn't going to happen

 

The 2/3rds of the vote to remove a sitting President is not there.

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 26, 2017, 12:37 PM

5. Yeah, that's my thinking on this, too.

And even as unpopular as the Republicans are getting, we're not going to see that kind of swing in the senate in 2018. Republican senators will not vote for conviction of one of their own, it appears, no matter how treacherous he is.

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Response to MariaCSR (Original post)

Tue Dec 26, 2017, 12:43 PM

6. If he's impeached, whichever of the thugs replaces him will issue a pardon. Guaranteed.

I say "whichever" because it might encompass a chunk of the line of succession. Pence isn't seeming too innocent these days.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 26, 2017, 12:50 PM

7. Unless there's an indictment including the replacement thug

In which case obstruction applies recursively, and with this bunch there'd be good odds on pretty much every potential replacement thug being implicated

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Response to MariaCSR (Original post)

Tue Dec 26, 2017, 12:56 PM

8. Cart, Horse.

take the congress in November first, or nothing else happens.

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Response to MariaCSR (Original post)

Tue Dec 26, 2017, 12:57 PM

9. 2018

We take both House and Senate back, and have control, no matter who is in office they could be very limited, especially to install more Supreme Court justices, and create phony investigations while covering up their crimes, or obstructing. Its doubtful the KGOP will do either. Especially if many of them are involved with him with collusion, and obstruction.

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Response to MariaCSR (Original post)

Tue Dec 26, 2017, 01:01 PM

10. There are State Attorney's General ready to see to the Trumps.

Congress may have neutered itself long ago, but that doesn't exactly indemnify the First Family.

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Response to MariaCSR (Original post)

Tue Dec 26, 2017, 01:02 PM

11. Unanimity would be preferred

Seems to me bona fide high crimes and misdemeanors should not result in ambivalence. Unlike Clinton, Nixon would have likely been uniformly convicted. If Trump is responsible for half of the things the twitter “team patriot” says he is, we will all be universally appalled.

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Response to MariaCSR (Original post)

Tue Dec 26, 2017, 11:25 PM

13. be careful what you wish for

Pence is also a big fucking asshole who doesn't give one shit about WE THE PEOPLE

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