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kpete

(71,900 posts)
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 08:53 AM Dec 2017

Trump says he sleeps four hours a night.

Sleep acts as a cleansing agent to remove the brain’s toxins. That's why doctors say we need at least 7 hours per night -- "not five or six hours because you think you can handle it."

You can live for about three minutes without air, three days without water and about 21 days without food. But in between food and water, there is something else critically essential: sleep.

It turns out you can only live about 11 days without sleep. You can give it a try if you don’t believe me, but, just like the other essentials, after day 11 you will probably die.

Sleep is one of the most important things we overlook, because most of us don’t consider it vital. The problem isn’t you — it’s your brain. Brain scientists really don’t know what they are talking about when it comes to sleep. For far too long, we have known too little about why we sleep. Instead of acknowledging that fact, scientists have made up fairy tales to explain our need for sleep. They have guessed that sleep is necessary for creativity, rest, rejuvenation and recovery.

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When it comes to the brain, we have no artificial way to replicate nature. That’s where sleep comes in, by reducing the brain’s size to make room for the mental mouthwash. The process of sleep very elegantly acts as a cleansing agent to remove the brain’s toxins.


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Trump says he sleeps four hours a night. (Original Post) kpete Dec 2017 OP
What a wimp. Real presidents only sleep 2 hours a day... FSogol Dec 2017 #1
Good one! PJMcK Dec 2017 #4
I remember learning that long ago - you can live without food longer than without sleep Rhiannon12866 Dec 2017 #2
Hes probably lying about that too. He thinks it makes livetohike Dec 2017 #3
If you have ever suffered with insomnia, you know the value of sleep. Grammy23 Dec 2017 #5
Been there, done that Rorey Dec 2017 #17
I have insomnia from time to time. Not every night, thank goodness. Grammy23 Dec 2017 #30
Solitaire Rorey Dec 2017 #33
Chronic insomnia is hell on earth. smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #22
It ruins every aspect of your life Rorey Dec 2017 #34
I Literally Only Get about 5 ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #6
That, must be what makes him sooooo stupid looking! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #7
Not unusual. Sleep patterns can change as you age. Freethinker65 Dec 2017 #8
One word: "covfefe" Rorey Dec 2017 #18
The outright narcissists that I've known have trouble sleeping very long hours Merlot Dec 2017 #32
I call BS Ohiogal Dec 2017 #9
He really doesn't even exist in real-world reality. I think he truly believes the nonsense that RKP5637 Dec 2017 #10
I doubt that Trump has ever read or seen Macbeth, but .. DemoTex Dec 2017 #11
Excellent! nt Rorey Dec 2017 #19
You lost me at, "Trump says..." ksoze Dec 2017 #12
The rest of the night he must be The Wizard Dec 2017 #13
With those little hands? He must have carpal tunnel SummerSnow Dec 2017 #29
Good. Either dementia or a heart attack will arrive soon. Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #14
Well he does not think or reason or evaluate. TNNurse Dec 2017 #15
Has to get up early to catch fox and friends and morning joe. Joe941 Dec 2017 #16
Therefore he doesn't. Orsino Dec 2017 #20
At least he's only working 20 hours a day to destroy democracy. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #21
That would explain why he looks like something the cat dragged in. smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #23
He never takes vacations either dalton99a Dec 2017 #24
IF this is the unique situation in which Trump is telling the truth, Ms. Toad Dec 2017 #25
Wow! You learn something new every day. I didn't think that an incubus slept. Huh. TheBlackAdder Dec 2017 #26
Possible BiPolar (manic depressive) illness, or amphetamine use? Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #27
great! Im sleep deprived ghostsinthemachine Dec 2017 #28
But duforsure Dec 2017 #31
If only ploppy Dec 2017 #35
I could see that. Jamaal510 Dec 2017 #36
Apparently in the pre-industrial days, people would regularly nap for an hour or two after supper, haele Dec 2017 #37

PJMcK

(21,921 posts)
4. Good one!
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 09:10 AM
Dec 2017

If Trump heard that Obama slept three hours a night, perhaps he'd cut back on the zzz's.

Rhiannon12866

(202,988 posts)
2. I remember learning that long ago - you can live without food longer than without sleep
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 09:05 AM
Dec 2017

People who think that going without sleep won't harm you are full of it. As is Trump...

Grammy23

(5,808 posts)
5. If you have ever suffered with insomnia, you know the value of sleep.
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 09:13 AM
Dec 2017

There are few things that are as aggravating as not being able to sleep. And the after effects of not getting enough sleep are terrible. You feel like your brain is in a fog, your thinking impaired and slow. No doubt that sleep is a vital component to good brain functioning. And the lack of sleep could help explain some of tRump’s flawed thought processes.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
17. Been there, done that
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 10:18 AM
Dec 2017

By that third night I was willing to try just about anything to get some sleep. I'm quite a bit better now. What ultimately works best for me is meditation. I started out by using headphones and listening to guided sleep meditation online. It took awhile for it to work in the beginning. Now I can generally do it on my own, and I even use it sometimes when I'm stressed when I'm awake.

Still, I can't remember the last time I got eight hours of sleep in one night. If I make it to seven, I feel like I won the lottery.

Grammy23

(5,808 posts)
30. I have insomnia from time to time. Not every night, thank goodness.
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 12:44 PM
Dec 2017

If I fight it and try to will myself to sleep, it rarely works and usually makes it worse. I resort to reading which often makes me sleepy enough to drift off. I know using an electronic device like a phone, laptop or iPad is considered bad, but I can bore myself to sleep by playing solitaire or working on a jigsaw puzzle on my iPad. Sometimes Melatonin helps, too. But flipping and flopping like a pancake is the pits! So I read or do something mindnumbing (like solitaire) until I fall asleep. I have been known to drop my iPad (ZZZZ) but fortunately never dropped it further than into my lap.....not the floor. 😉 P.S. sometimes I read DU! But that tends to give me nightmares, so I try to stick to the Lounge for late night reading. LOL

Fellow insomniacs, I feel your pain!

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
33. Solitaire
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 02:19 PM
Dec 2017

Me too! I did try going without electronics for a few hours before bed. It didn't seem to make a difference. Generally I can play for about ten minutes now before I'm nodding off.

Besides the meditation, one thing that really helps me is getting more physical activity during the day. I have fallen off on my daily walks because when I have time it's too cold or too dark. When I still had my best friend around (my dog), I wasn't allowed to make excuses and got lots of walking/running in. I sure do miss him. I know he added years onto my life. And I know this past year of 45 and repubs is sucking those years away from me again.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
34. It ruins every aspect of your life
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 02:23 PM
Dec 2017

I highly recommend guided meditation. It doesn't always work, but it has helped me a lot.

ProfessorGAC

(64,425 posts)
6. I Literally Only Get about 5
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 09:15 AM
Dec 2017

I'm a burst sleeper. Sleep 45 minutes to an hour. Wake up pretty charged. Fall back asleep in 30 to 45 minutes. Rinse, repeat.

Been that way for 50 years or so.

Freethinker65

(9,934 posts)
8. Not unusual. Sleep patterns can change as you age.
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 09:21 AM
Dec 2017

No doubt he takes “naps” during the day. He might call them power naps, but they are just plain old getting older naps.

Also I would not be surprised if his concept of time is getting bad. If you informed him he vacationed over 100 days this past year, he would mostly deny it, not because of the “working vacation” bullshit excuse, but because what little time he has spent in DC seems so much longer to him.

Or, he could just be an outright narcissistic liar. Hahaha

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
32. The outright narcissists that I've known have trouble sleeping very long hours
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 12:53 PM
Dec 2017

Not saying that all those with insomnia are narcissists.

Ohiogal

(31,663 posts)
9. I call BS
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 09:24 AM
Dec 2017

He's probably lying about that (like he lies about everything else) because he thinks it makes him look macho and strong. "I don't need to sleep like you wimpy people do!"

RKP5637

(67,032 posts)
10. He really doesn't even exist in real-world reality. I think he truly believes the nonsense that
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 09:36 AM
Dec 2017

tumbles around in his mind and the rest he makes up and lies about.

DemoTex

(25,371 posts)
11. I doubt that Trump has ever read or seen Macbeth, but ..
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 09:40 AM
Dec 2017

"Sleep that knits up the ravelled sleeve of care
The death of each day's life, sore labour's bath
Balm of hurt minds, great nature's second course,
Chief nourisher in life's feast."

William Shakespeare .. Macbeth

TNNurse

(6,911 posts)
15. Well he does not think or reason or evaluate.
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 09:54 AM
Dec 2017

He does not learn, he does not actually use his brain. He reacts emotionally and does not question sources.

Considering he does not use his brain, it does not need much sleep.

Also this is bad for his overall health, so that is not a problem for me.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
20. Therefore he doesn't.
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 11:05 AM
Dec 2017

That was easy.

Trump sleeps as much as he wants to. He drinks as much as he wants to. He watches TV as much as he wants to. He golfs as much as he wants to. He eats as much junk food as he wants to.

Trump has never shown much in the way of self-discipline.

Ms. Toad

(33,915 posts)
25. IF this is the unique situation in which Trump is telling the truth,
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 11:56 AM
Dec 2017

There are people who are geneticaly wired to sleep very few hours (just as there are. genetically wired night owls, early risers.

http://www.businessinsider.com/some-people-only-need-a-few-hours-of-sleep-2015-12

As a genetically wired night owl, who is constantly assumed to be lazy becuase I don't start work at noon (even though my work days generally run from 12-15 hours) I'm sensitive to allegations abotu what is needed/normal for sleep.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
28. great! Im sleep deprived
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 12:07 PM
Dec 2017

I havent got more than four hrs of sleep since October (early). Sciatica. Very painful. I have to sleep sitting up, but that hurts the sciatica more than anything.I usually get most of my sleep in ten minute increments. Very dangerous.

duforsure

(11,882 posts)
31. But
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 12:46 PM
Dec 2017

trump rarely says anything that's the truth. He probably hasn't ever tweeted , and had someone doing that to just playing everyone and using it , then at a later date its discovered he lied about that too. I don't believe ANYTHING he claims, or says.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
36. I could see that.
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 03:59 PM
Dec 2017

He probably spends the late night on the computer, doing his Twitter Warrioring and other stuff. It is said that doing things like that which involve looking at a bright screen can tamper with one's sleep schedule and quality of sleep.

haele

(12,581 posts)
37. Apparently in the pre-industrial days, people would regularly nap for an hour or two after supper,
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 05:26 PM
Dec 2017

Wake up again for an hour or two worth of easy activity (pick-up type cleaning, talking, reading, writing, playing games, sex, whatever...), then go to back sleep for six to eight hours until they would get up to do the next day's tasks.
The first "nap" was to rest the body, then the sleep was to actually rest the mind.

Haele

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