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Joe941

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Wed Dec 27, 2017, 02:36 PM Dec 2017

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She thinks she owns the place. Demtexan Dec 2017 #1
She DID leave the tree to experts. elleng Dec 2017 #5
I don't care for Melania Trump, but this is a super misleading headline. LisaM Dec 2017 #2
Yes! elleng Dec 2017 #4
These headlines are not useful, elleng Dec 2017 #3
Well said. This tree removal was recommended by experts. Nothing shady or ill-conceived here. LonePirate Dec 2017 #8
This again? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2017 #6
I think you need to delete this post Texasgal Dec 2017 #7
+1 beaglelover Dec 2017 #15
The tree is old and unstable. Magnolias can get hollowed out while huge as they age. CousinIT Dec 2017 #9
This is a BS Op malaise Dec 2017 #10
Yup. cwydro Dec 2017 #12
Theyve been contemplating Codeine Dec 2017 #11
What the hell has happened to Newsweek?? B2G Dec 2017 #13
Posts like this show how the OP (and many of us around here) become the thing we hate Blue_Adept Dec 2017 #14
Our media really is no better than those They were all staring at her! shitty ads that pop up. Oneironaut Dec 2017 #23
Since you commented I'm assuming you read the article. NCTraveler Dec 2017 #16
How about reading the article, not just the headline - and then deleting. Ms. Toad Dec 2017 #17
How did it get spun that she was behind this? hexola Dec 2017 #18
As bad as this NW headline is mercuryblues Dec 2017 #19
Please! Botany Dec 2017 #20
The Trumps are bad enough without creating hysterical and misleading headlines to stoke outrage. Binkie The Clown Dec 2017 #21
Garbage clickbait. Oneironaut Dec 2017 #22
bad headline... handmade34 Dec 2017 #24

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
1. She thinks she owns the place.
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 02:39 PM
Dec 2017

Leave the trees to experts.

elleng

(141,926 posts)
5. She DID leave the tree to experts.
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 02:41 PM
Dec 2017

LisaM

(29,626 posts)
2. I don't care for Melania Trump, but this is a super misleading headline.
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 02:39 PM
Dec 2017

It sounds as if every effort has been made to preserve it, they're saving the wood, and there are offshoots of it already planted.

I really wish Newseek would change this headline.

elleng

(141,926 posts)
4. Yes!
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 02:41 PM
Dec 2017

elleng

(141,926 posts)
3. These headlines are not useful,
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 02:39 PM
Dec 2017

and neither are comments suggesting evil-doing at such times.

'CNN obtained documents from specialists at the United States National Arboretum, which determined the magnolia tree must be removed. The tree is “completely dependent on artificial support,” the document read.

The document said, “Without the extensive cabling system, the tree would have fallen years ago. Presently, and very concerning, the cabling system is failing on the east trunk, as a cable has pulled through the very thin layer of wood that remains. It is difficult to predict when and how many more will fail.”

A White House official told CNN that the first lady made the decision after reviewing and assessing professional information and historical documents. “Mrs. Trump personally reviewed the reports from the United States National Arboretum and spoke at length with her staff about exploring every option before making the decision to remove a portion of the magnolia tree,” Trump’s communications director, Stephanie Grisham, told CNN. “After reviewing the reports, she trusted that every effort had been made to preserve the historic tree and was concerned about the safety of visitors and members of the press, who are often standing right in front of the tree during Marine One lifts.”

The tree was about to fall, and experts recommended its removal. Mrs. Trump, according to Grisham, has requested to preserve the wood from the tree.'

LonePirate

(14,367 posts)
8. Well said. This tree removal was recommended by experts. Nothing shady or ill-conceived here.
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 02:49 PM
Dec 2017

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,530 posts)
6. This again?
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 02:44 PM
Dec 2017

It's a dead tree that's about to fall down. Might as well remove it safely.

None of us are fans of the Trump's but this story is nothing more than click bait.

Texasgal

(17,240 posts)
7. I think you need to delete this post
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 02:46 PM
Dec 2017

It's silly.

beaglelover

(4,465 posts)
15. +1
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 03:03 PM
Dec 2017

CousinIT

(12,519 posts)
9. The tree is old and unstable. Magnolias can get hollowed out while huge as they age.
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 02:49 PM
Dec 2017

Unfortunately removal is necessary for safety. I've seen it done where I live. I think in this case it's necessary for safety reasons. She talked to arborists and experts and they evidently agree.

I have no love for her but demonizing her over this tree removal is a cheap shot.

malaise

(295,871 posts)
10. This is a BS Op
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 02:51 PM
Dec 2017
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
12. Yup.
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 02:59 PM
Dec 2017

I hate seeing this kind of nonsense here.

This kind of fake news makes this site look ridiculous.

Why do people do this?

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
11. Theyve been contemplating
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 02:51 PM
Dec 2017

removing that old, sick, half-rotten tree for a decade or more. This story keeps getting posted and people keep responding to it without reading anything. It makes us look dumb.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
13. What the hell has happened to Newsweek??
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 03:01 PM
Dec 2017

They are nothing more than click bait anymore.

Blue_Adept

(6,499 posts)
14. Posts like this show how the OP (and many of us around here) become the thing we hate
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 03:01 PM
Dec 2017

Spouting off without actually reading.

Dems are just as bad as Republicans in this regard. The dumbing down has gone full circle.

Oneironaut

(6,289 posts)
23. Our media really is no better than those They were all staring at her! shitty ads that pop up.
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 03:32 PM
Dec 2017

They can’t possibly be partisan or biased - they’d rather just throw outrage fodder into the water to try and attract as many clicks as possible.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
16. Since you commented I'm assuming you read the article.
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 03:04 PM
Dec 2017

That leaves the door open for the assumption that this is ratfucking.

Bad form.

Ms. Toad

(38,607 posts)
17. How about reading the article, not just the headline - and then deleting.
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 03:09 PM
Dec 2017

Yes, the Trumps are vile. But there are plenty of vile things they do to complain about, without criticizing and hyping the responsible decision as if was an off-the-cuff ego-driven decision.

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
18. How did it get spun that she was behind this?
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 03:21 PM
Dec 2017

Or was it something the White House assigned to her?

Seems needless to assign it to anyone other than the grounds staff!

mercuryblues

(16,398 posts)
19. As bad as this NW headline is
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 03:21 PM
Dec 2017

I am glad this tree did not have to come down during the Obama years. The vast majority of commenters in this thread is calling out the BS headline. If this happened a few years ago we would be hearing how Obama poisoned the tree or had cut it down to make a Muslim alter.

Botany

(77,276 posts)
20. Please!
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 03:22 PM
Dec 2017

The tree was looked at by experts from the National Arboretum who said
it needed to come down.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
21. The Trumps are bad enough without creating hysterical and misleading headlines to stoke outrage.
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 03:27 PM
Dec 2017

If the arborists had recommended to the Obamas that the tree be removed I'm sure Fox News would have stoked the same kind of fake outrage. There's nothing to be gained by hate mongering from either side.

Oneironaut

(6,289 posts)
22. Garbage clickbait.
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 03:28 PM
Dec 2017

Reading the article tells why the tree was actually removed.

But, “muh ad revenue!”

handmade34

(24,010 posts)
24. bad headline...
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 03:43 PM
Dec 2017

trees get old and need to be removed... sad, but Melania Trump has no real say in this... we should get rid of this post

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