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Splinter:Right now, Tom Steyers idea is that the best thing to do, politically speaking, with his money, right now, is to spend a lot of it$20 million so far, which is more than the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee, which supports electing Democrats to state legislatures, has ever raised in an election cycleon a nationwide television ad campaign about impeaching Trump.
The campaign has been a huge success, The Politico tells us today, at least by one metric: Steyer has collected a lot of email addresses.
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Incredible. For just $20 million, Steyer has collected nearly four million email addresses, simply by promising that the act of giving him your email address will, in some fashion, help make the impeachment of Donald Trump more likely, which is not true.
Whether or not you like the IDEA of Impeachment, Steyer's campaign won't cause it to be more likely or more successful. Meanwhile, conservative billionaires will continue to spend money on actually getting people elected nationwide at all levels.
doc03
(39,086 posts)zero chance Trump will ever get impeached.
David__77
(24,728 posts)...
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)David__77
(24,728 posts)The alternative might, in fact, be that he keeps the money for himself.
Its not as if hes picking the pockets of political candidates.
StevieM
(10,578 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)A donation of the maximum to a state and county DNC goes a long way toward election of solid Democrats to local, state and federal offices. That is how rightwing rich people got the country to where it is today.
TexasBushwhacker
(21,204 posts)And there is no fucking way the current Senate would convict Trump of impeachment charges. Even if we pick up seats in 2018, it won't be enough to get the 2/3 majority impeachment requires.
stuffmatters
(2,580 posts)And is building a mailing list @ $5/ pop by promising everyone that HE can buy them a pony.
Until there is an ironclad case against Trump there is no way any Repug Senators will vote him guilty in impeachment It takes 66 votes.
I can't say that his ads have hurt us tho. I think his antiTrump, antiRepug enablers and now anti Repugs Tax heist for the Morbidly Rich messages are very helpful attack ads. Even if Steyer sees himself as the self appointed billionaire solution.
JI7
(93,616 posts)And how he needs to go.
stuffmatters
(2,580 posts)StevieM
(10,578 posts)And he is very likely to get my vote.
stuffmatters
(2,580 posts)hueymahl
(2,904 posts)Time for her to step aside.
JI7
(93,616 posts)FSogol
(47,623 posts)He was some of the major funding behind Martin O'Malley. He'll continue to fund environmental causes.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,454 posts)Squinch
(59,522 posts)is impeachable. He's attaching the two words "Trump" and "impeachment" and that attachment is being seen by people who might not otherwise understand how bad Trump(R) is.
This is good messaging. This is the kind of thing we never do well. This is the kind of thing that worms into people's brains, deposits the phrase we want (Trump impeachment) and leaves it there.
Whoever wants to do anything like this should have our support.
JI7
(93,616 posts)taxing the wealthy didn't stop him from making his money. govt spending on poor and others who aren't wealthy did not stop him from being wealthy.
and being wealthy doesn't mean the only issues one can care about is their personal finances. you can care about others nad still be wealthy.
the problem is people like trump and the tax scam. people like paul ryan who have not been successful in private business want to blame the poor while the guy who actually became wealthy in his private life knows knows it's not the poor and others with less who are the problem.
we need more of this.
shraby
(21,946 posts)He earned the money and if he wants to give it to the dems, so be it.
Beats the republicans taking all the big money.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)This Congress will not Impeach Trump under any circumstances. I'm glad he's speaking out.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Only political activists are fixated on impeachment. The average voter ( even those who dont like Trump) is more interested in having their personal problems addressed.
Squinch
(59,522 posts)beaglelover
(4,466 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I really don't see the problem here.
msongs
(73,754 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Its a positive.
0rganism
(25,644 posts)by signing on these 4 million people are declaring themselves to be motivated proponents of Trump impeachment
which means Steyer has a high-quality list of potential Democratic donors for 2018 congressional races, which will very likely pull in more than $5 per address on average, as well as being potential GOTV activists across the country.
the DNC should be paying close attention to how Steyer did this and finding ways to hook his list up with Democratic candidates.
newblewtoo
(667 posts)if he generates $5.00 per name for 4 million names he pays back his initial investment. Rich people never do anything for free. Color me skeptical until I know more.
StevieM
(10,578 posts)mopinko
(73,726 posts)bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)Steyer shouldn't be able to spend his money on something he's passionate about, right? #BlaHBlahBlahBlah
StevieM
(10,578 posts)I understand the need to condemn Donald Trump's efforts to derail an FBI investigation. But he shouldn't have shown a picture of James Comey, let alone one of him raising his hand to testify. That man is reprehensible.
Raine
(31,178 posts)till the Dems are in control and his petition is doing nothing to help put them in. Would be more effective to use all that money to elect them instead of getting his own name out to run in future.
Generic Brad
(14,374 posts)Whipping up impeachment mania will fall flat until the depth and breadth of the GOP's treason is exposed. We're not there yet. I am afraid he is wasting his money.