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kpete

(71,985 posts)
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 06:22 PM Dec 2017

Rachel Maddow closes 2017 by beating the pants off Sean Hannity

MSNBC’s unabashed liberal primetime lineup produced a stunning ratings success for the network in 2017, boosting its viewership by nearly 50 percent compared to the 2016 campaign cycle. MSNBC finishes the year with its largest daily audience since the network debuted in 1996.

The primetime home of Chris Hayes, Rachel Maddow, and Lawrence O’Donnell posted the biggest ratings gain in 2017 of any of the all-news cable channels.

Heading into 2018, MSNBC’s Maddow is riding a ratings momentum wave. Pitted against Sean Hannity in the 9 p.m. time slot, Maddow in recent weeks has moved ahead of Trump’s favorite cheerleader and has been regularly beating Hannity among viewers 25-54, the demographic most sought after by advertisers.

During the first three weeks of December, Maddow bested Hannity on 10 of the 15 weekday broadcasts.


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Rachel Maddow closes 2017 by beating the pants off Sean Hannity (Original Post) kpete Dec 2017 OP
k and r... Stuart G Dec 2017 #1
WOW leanforward Dec 2017 #2
Off to the greatest page malaise Dec 2017 #3
Yet they will find a reason to pay her less MaryMagdaline Dec 2017 #4
Dont think so. tavernier Dec 2017 #8
Rachel makes more then Chris Matthews Raine Dec 2017 #25
The issue is what is Hannity making? MaryMagdaline Jan 2018 #43
Out of curiosity I looked, Hannity makes 29 million! Raine Jan 2018 #47
Wow! Rachel needs a raise MaryMagdaline Jan 2018 #48
Probably because her show generates far less income then Hannity's Kaleva Jan 2018 #50
Since most corporations that buy advertising Farmer-Rick Jan 2018 #52
That's amazing! And encouraging ..... Lil Missy Dec 2017 #5
PhD vs. an old fart, college flunky Miigwech Dec 2017 #6
That's the truth malaise Dec 2017 #9
+++ agree iluvtennis Dec 2017 #13
Who would have thought Zika virus existed then? nt Ilsa Dec 2017 #15
He hates to be reminded he is a college flunky. Drives him into a tizzy fit. Enoki33 Dec 2017 #22
Rhodes Scholar, in fact, VS undergraduate drop-out. maddiemom Dec 2017 #35
All that extra meat not used for a forehead got tucked into his mouth and jaw. nt tblue37 Dec 2017 #38
Facts beating the pants off polemics - nice! eleny Dec 2017 #7
I think we've had enough of seeing people at Fox without their pants. (n/t) thesquanderer Dec 2017 #10
Ha... This futureliveshere Dec 2017 #11
I hope a legit female who was harassed by him comes forward. BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #12
The quickest way is poor ratings gratuitous Dec 2017 #14
They should try telling the truth. milestogo Dec 2017 #17
God! I miss the DUzys! Especially with a DUzy worthy post like this. longship Dec 2017 #19
I guess you don't mean literally. milestogo Dec 2017 #16
LOL ailsagirl Dec 2017 #29
George Soros is probably paying people to watch (sarcasm) pandr32 Dec 2017 #18
This makes me smile Gothmog Dec 2017 #20
People finally getting tired of being lied to not fooled Dec 2017 #21
This posts's title made me spit coca-cola through my nostrils. KWR65 Dec 2017 #23
So glad the title of this thread is metaphorical rocktivity Dec 2017 #24
Good! PragmaticDem Dec 2017 #26
I'm happy to say... Mike Nelson Dec 2017 #27
Minngal marieo1 Dec 2017 #28
Cannot be a pretty sight Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2017 #30
People want SUBSTANCE, not SENSATIONALISM.... ProudMNDemocrat Dec 2017 #31
Did I read somewhere that they were paying Megan bonniebgood Dec 2017 #32
Pants?... Meh! A towel put over his nose for the waterboarding coward Hannity promised. keithbvadu2 Dec 2017 #33
Rec #100 Towlie Dec 2017 #34
While this is very positive StarzGuy Dec 2017 #36
So of course Andy Lack keeps ditching liberals like Joan Walsh and packing the tblue37 Dec 2017 #37
Dr. Maddow orangecrush Dec 2017 #39
Great news. Although. Demoiselle Dec 2017 #40
A lot of smoke in this article...😕 Hulk Dec 2017 #41
Not sure what you are disputing titaniumsalute Jan 2018 #46
The headline is a big part of what I dispute... Hulk Jan 2018 #54
No problem...I agree the headline is misleading titaniumsalute Jan 2018 #55
You make a fair point, but ... Whiskeytide Jan 2018 #56
Shows on whose side the enthusiasm is. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #42
Go, Maddow! rec, nt Mc Mike Jan 2018 #44
Kick dalton99a Jan 2018 #45
K&R Scurrilous Jan 2018 #49
"All the Terrible Things Liberals Are Doing to the Greatest President Who Ever Lived"... VOX Jan 2018 #51
Who cares? oberliner Jan 2018 #53

leanforward

(1,076 posts)
2. WOW
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 06:25 PM
Dec 2017

You mean that little ole girl is showing up the big old boy.

The devil made me write this.

pRezident dRumpf needs to go.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
25. Rachel makes more then Chris Matthews
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 08:59 PM
Dec 2017

so she's definitely not paid less then him, he makes 5 million, she makes 7 million.

MaryMagdaline

(6,853 posts)
43. The issue is what is Hannity making?
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 12:03 PM
Jan 2018

If Rachel is beating Hannity she needs to be earning what he is earning.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
47. Out of curiosity I looked, Hannity makes 29 million!
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 07:48 PM
Jan 2018

I know that Morning Joe makes around 8 million but he's on 2-3 hours at a time. MSNBC I saw recently is now getting better ratings then Faux or CNN so when it's time for Rachel to renegotiate her contract she should demand more. With Faux's lower ratings hopefully Hannity's pay should be cut, haha.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
50. Probably because her show generates far less income then Hannity's
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 08:54 AM
Jan 2018

"By Chris Ariens on Jul. 21, 2017 - 9:25 AMComment

Rachel Maddow may be cable TV’s No. 1 show right now, but advertisers are still paying much more for commercials during Fox News shows.

According to new data from Standard Media Index, Fox News’s 8 p.m. show, Tucker Carlson Tonight earns $13,779 for a :30 commercial, while Maddow, at 9 p.m. on MSNBC, earns $4,193 per :30 spot. Granted, Fox News’s previous 8 p.m. show, The O’Reilly Factor, was cable’s No. 1 show for more than 15 years with a loyal, built-in audience, many of whom have stuck with Carlson. At the same time, Carlson has also improved the timeslot 13 percent from the average cost in Q2 2016."

http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/brands-pay-3-times-as-much-for-ads-on-tucker-carlson-than-on-rachel-maddow/335797

This could and will change if Maddow continues to beat Hannity in the ratings.


Farmer-Rick

(10,156 posts)
52. Since most corporations that buy advertising
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 09:31 AM
Jan 2018

Know RepubliCONS and conservatives are more likely to cut their taxes and regulations, they prefer to give their money to the RepubliCON propaganda channel. But there comes a point where losing money for your friend gets old. So, there is a breaking point.

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
6. PhD vs. an old fart, college flunky
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 06:47 PM
Dec 2017

Did you ever notice that Sean lacks a forehead? .... always thought it was because his brain was 'teeny-tiny'

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
14. The quickest way is poor ratings
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 07:30 PM
Dec 2017

If Hannity keeps losing his time slot, he'll be cashiered at the next contract renewal. Any replacement is going to need some time to recapture Hannity's audience; that replacement will either have to out-Hannity Hannity, or go in a different direction. Hannity's core audience doesn't have the time to be recaptured (I'm saying they're old - really old) by a new face.

After Hannity's departure, Fox may have to try something new.

longship

(40,416 posts)
19. God! I miss the DUzys! Especially with a DUzy worthy post like this.
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 07:45 PM
Dec 2017

I bow to your DUziness, thesquanderer.
🙇




not fooled

(5,801 posts)
21. People finally getting tired of being lied to
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 07:52 PM
Dec 2017

Gives me hope.

Go Rachel, Chris, Lawrence, Joy, Stephanie, Ali, Ari and a few others I'm forgetting.

KWR65

(1,098 posts)
23. This posts's title made me spit coca-cola through my nostrils.
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 08:15 PM
Dec 2017

Sean Hannity with no pants would not be a good thing to see!

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
28. Minngal
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 09:15 PM
Dec 2017

She is outstanding. I love the research she or someone does for her. It really helps me to understand a few more things. Way to go, Rachel.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
31. People want SUBSTANCE, not SENSATIONALISM....
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 09:27 PM
Dec 2017


Which is why Rachel Maddow scores better. She does not berate her guests, asks thought provoking questions, challenges without alienating her guests.

Rachel Maddow holds a Doctorate Degree in Political Science from Oxford University.

Sean Hannity lacks direction and intellectual curosity to engage others. He is all about tabloid news rather than facts.

bonniebgood

(940 posts)
32. Did I read somewhere that they were paying Megan
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 10:23 AM
Dec 2017

35 million? A show I've never seen. much like I've never seen/watched ESPN who?

keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
33. Pants?... Meh! A towel put over his nose for the waterboarding coward Hannity promised.
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 10:39 AM
Dec 2017

Pants?... Meh! A towel put over his nose for the waterboarding coward Hannity promised.

StarzGuy

(254 posts)
36. While this is very positive
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 02:54 PM
Dec 2017

I also watch Rachel and I am 63 demographic. She's on a well deserved holiday break this week which is fine. I only wish that MSNBC would NOT have other hosts to cover her absence. I'd like to see some other programming that involved investigative reporting on important topics. Well, that's my opinion.

Oh, and I don't watch the program when Rachel is not the host. I think it changes the vibe of the show, not good.

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
37. So of course Andy Lack keeps ditching liberals like Joan Walsh and packing the
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 03:19 PM
Dec 2017

MSNBC lineup with right wing hacks like Hewit and Van Sustern. Van Sustern tanked badly, but that didn't seem to slow down his push to get MSNBC to move rightward.

orangecrush

(19,537 posts)
39. Dr. Maddow
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 03:40 PM
Dec 2017

represents the best we have to offer.

Even many of the righties I know have grudging respect for her.

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)
40. Great news. Although.
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 04:33 PM
Dec 2017

….the mental picture of Sean Hannity without his pants doesn't make my heart leap up.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
41. A lot of smoke in this article...😕
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 05:28 PM
Dec 2017

OK...I get frustrated and upset with threads like this that make grandiose claims in the titles, but are empty of facts and specifics in the body of the article.

"...beats the pants off vannity..."...? Seriously? Then it gets boiled down to "..25 to 54 year olds..". Then it gets further boiled down to "..bested vannity on 10 of the 15 weekday broadcasts.."..?

So the 55 to 100 year olds are irrelevant? They don't vote? Maddow, Hayes and O'Donnell win on 10 of the 15 days...?....by how much?? 1%? 10%? 25%?...

I'm just getting fed up with such vague statistical hocus pocus. The same crap is posted regarding political office races, and all it does is raise hopes to later be dashed; and I think it leads to readers just blowing off such wild, deceptive claims.

Come back when you have some facts that back up your bold claims. I'd like it to be so, but the info provided is lacking any proof to your claim.

While I can't understand how vannity has ANY viewers, I am not going to swallow the bait on this claim.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
46. Not sure what you are disputing
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 01:21 PM
Jan 2018

I have worked both for the ratings companies (10 years) and radio/TV media outlets. I closely watch the daily and monthly ratings for cable news. Yes Maddow has beaten Hannity a number of times all year in the 9pm timeslot.

Advertisers/Ad Agencies most often buy their ads based on radio and TV ratings in the 25-54 age demographics thus why you see this number reported. So it is true that it is important to a TV network to try to "win" in this demo. Of course 55 to 100 year olds are relevant...but not as much to an advertiser (right or wrong this is just the way it is.)

It isn't statistical hocus pocus. Might be bad headline writing though.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
54. The headline is a big part of what I dispute...
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 02:47 PM
Jan 2018

..but what bothers me by this sort of posting is how it falsely implies that the treasonous vannity is drying up on the network while Maddow is blowing him away with viewership. I don't buy that NOR appreciate seeing articles posted that mislead the DU readers. We should deal in facts and in reality.

I don't argue that the 25-54 age viewer is the one most sought by advertisers. I'm not so sure they represent the highest percentage of voter...and that's what is really going to matter come 2018 and 20.

Winning that demo a few times is far from dominating. I only posted because half truths and twisted facts do us no good. That's how I read the article.

Thanks for your civil response. It's not all that common when differences of opinion are shared on the threads.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
56. You make a fair point, but ...
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 03:58 PM
Jan 2018

... I think the thing to take from this is how dramatically the dynamics have changed this year. The headline is overly sensational - agreed - but what is salient is that a year or two ago it would have been unthinkable that MSNBC could compete in the time slots from 8 to 11. Fox dominated by ridiculous margins. The fact that it is now a close race, I think, signals a positive change. JM2C.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
51. "All the Terrible Things Liberals Are Doing to the Greatest President Who Ever Lived"...
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 09:14 AM
Jan 2018

Should be the new branding of Hannity's show. Because that's all it is, an hour of state-television, informing patriotic viewers how great #45 really is, and how those horrible libs (Hillary, Obama, Soros, Deep State, mainstream media, etc. etc.) are treating the Anointed One like dirt, when they should be strewing rose petals at his feet and tell him how wonderful he is, and thank him for all the great things he has done in the first year of his amazing presidency -- more than any other president in history. Just ask Utah Senator Orrin Hatch (R): "This President hasn't even been in office for even a year and look at all the things that he's been able to get done!"

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