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kpete

(72,029 posts)
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 10:01 AM Dec 2017

NY Times to Trunp: Uh huh uh huh uh huh go on...

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NY Times to Trunp: Uh huh uh huh uh huh go on...




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NY Times to Trunp: Uh huh uh huh uh huh go on... (Original Post) kpete Dec 2017 OP
The New York Times should be ashamed of that interview. It reeked of journalistic incompetence. LonePirate Dec 2017 #1
Didn't they also recently NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #8
Yep. wellst0nev0ter Dec 2017 #22
Come on! loyalsister Dec 2017 #24
Come on MFM008 Dec 2017 #32
Other that Herr Trump you mean? workinclasszero Dec 2017 #34
On the heels of "The Nazis next door are just like you!" bullwinkle428 Dec 2017 #38
I think a lot of it is... yallerdawg Dec 2017 #2
No, I saw an interview w that reporter and he did his best to kiss Trumps ass and use his framing bettyellen Dec 2017 #4
Schmidt is allegedly a professional journalist for the self-styled newspaper of record gratuitous Dec 2017 #12
Thank you! Sounds like Schmidt Cha Dec 2017 #33
Uh huh uh huh uh huh go on... kinghov Dec 2017 #3
Yes Times a million mountain grammy Dec 2017 #5
More rope aeromanKC Dec 2017 #6
Really. Just let Trump talk. mnhtnbb Dec 2017 #11
ITA. Let him go on, showing his Ilsa Dec 2017 #15
Just no 25th before Mueller gets done with him aeromanKC Dec 2017 #18
I agree. Also if he was challenged in any kind of way then he's not going to grant anymore Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #16
Then what's the point of a fucking media? wellst0nev0ter Dec 2017 #23
Got to remember that!! aeromanKC Dec 2017 #36
What's even more remarkable wellst0nev0ter Dec 2017 #37
Yup. Please proceed, Mr pResident. shanny Dec 2017 #27
honestly I do believe you are on to something here Skittles Dec 2017 #35
Panting syncopants, steeped in awe of the orange pompadour, grovel at the feet of mediocrity Augiedog Dec 2017 #7
You expressed my feelings on the subject accurately. NBachers Dec 2017 #9
If thats mediocrity, Id hate to see flagrant incompetence! BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2017 #14
Really! Cha Dec 2017 #31
👋🏾 BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2017 #40
.. Cha Dec 2017 #41
P.S..... BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2017 #47
Kick dalton99a Dec 2017 #10
But, but, but... Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #13
Naw. He came back to announce the success of his charity. shanny Dec 2017 #28
Not an interview,,,,,,, Cryptoad Dec 2017 #17
You call that journalism? smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #19
I think more than anything the strategy is to let him incriminate himself. Tatiana Dec 2017 #20
There is a double standard, but I think the reporter may have been trying to give him enough rope. LisaM Dec 2017 #21
Charlie Pierce says the same thing in his latest column. Paladin Dec 2017 #25
Well that puts me in good company! LisaM Dec 2017 #26
"please proceed" shanny Dec 2017 #29
Pretty much; "never interrupt an opponent when he is making a mistake" bhikkhu Dec 2017 #42
I agree. Silver Gaia Dec 2017 #30
As someone who has interviewed defendants, convicts and elected leaders alike misanthrope Dec 2017 #43
Double standard indeed GusBob Dec 2017 #46
NYT did fine on an impromptu interview. See context. Also see Mark Twain: Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #39
I keep thinking of the "Summer Nights" song from "Grease" dflprincess Dec 2017 #44
Michael Che as Lester Holt -- Mc Mike Dec 2017 #45
 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
22. Yep.
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 02:48 PM
Dec 2017

But the nat-see got fired for it, so that's a plus.

But I still await a soft-focused profile on that nazzee kid who killed his girlfriend's parents.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
24. Come on!
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 03:03 PM
Dec 2017

That was a serious and necessary expose. We need to know that they are our neighbors and the people who will let you go ahead of them in the check out line. Exposing the fact that the stereotype does not hold is important because we have to know that the ideology and people who support it are masked and present all around us.
The tragedy of cable news is that it has been feeding people what they want to hear for so long that people don't recognize real journalism anymore.

MFM008

(19,826 posts)
32. Come on
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 03:56 PM
Dec 2017

It was bullshit put out to divert and distract.
Maggot hasn't had a tough interview yet.
WE know this bitch is crazier than a shit house rat
He doesn't have to speak for us to know this.
The media has given this POS a free ride all along.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
34. Other that Herr Trump you mean?
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 04:02 PM
Dec 2017

Yes they sure as hell did, the nazi next door.

Just a regular guy America!

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
2. I think a lot of it is...
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 10:21 AM
Dec 2017

the reporters are so aghast that this uninformed, inarticulate, lie-spewing, unqualified, unprepared imbecile is the current occupant of the White House.

It's like this every moment of everyday.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
4. No, I saw an interview w that reporter and he did his best to kiss Trumps ass and use his framing
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 10:50 AM
Dec 2017

Instead of using a reality based context- he spoke of his successes (not singular- the tax bill) and stumbled and trailed off before anything got negative. Said Trumpnis “his own best salesman” and studiously avoided any negatives. He gave him access to use him- and it worked. Now he wants more.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
12. Schmidt is allegedly a professional journalist for the self-styled newspaper of record
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 12:19 PM
Dec 2017

He should be able to think up a question on the fly. His colleague Maggie Haberman leapt to Schmidt's defense, saying that Schmidt didn't want to "challenge" the president or some such nonsense. But Schmidt didn't have to challenge anyone. When Trump was blathering on about how every Democrat has exonerated him and agreed that he's being victimized by a witch hunt, Schmidt could have nodded and said, "Every Democrat; I must have missed that. Can you tell me who told you that? Anyone in particular that I might have heard of?"

Instead, Schmidt sat there as silent as a court stenographer at a deposition, never following up. I don't think Schmidt is on Trump's payroll, but he sure acted like his paycheck depended on keeping Trump dumb and happy.

mnhtnbb

(31,409 posts)
11. Really. Just let Trump talk.
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 12:03 PM
Dec 2017

It is mind blowing that he is so incompetent and unfit for office.

Republicans should be ashamed of themselves for allowing such a man to occupy the office of President. He is totally unfit
and represents a clear and present danger to the country.

aeromanKC

(3,328 posts)
18. Just no 25th before Mueller gets done with him
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 01:06 PM
Dec 2017

Last edited Fri Dec 29, 2017, 02:13 PM - Edit history (1)

I want Trump to be ruined both financially and personally before he meets Satan.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
16. I agree. Also if he was challenged in any kind of way then he's not going to grant anymore
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 01:05 PM
Dec 2017

'interviews'...so really this is all they can get and it's good enough.

It really gets me ill how quickly people just turn...now I'm hearing that the NY Times is a piece of trash because of some thing or things they don't agree with. They sound just like trashbag tRUMP...and these folks are supposed to be liberals!

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
23. Then what's the point of a fucking media?
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 02:52 PM
Dec 2017

If the NYT isn't going to challenge Mango Mussolini, then we might as well just set up a party propaganda network that blares his views unfiltered.

Oh right, Fox already took that job.

aeromanKC

(3,328 posts)
36. Got to remember that!!
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 05:51 PM
Dec 2017

Mango Mussolini!! I love it.

(and BTW: I met Sen. Wellstone at a Constituent dinner in a small town in Northern Minnesota back in early 90's. I remember i kept thinking, wow, I'm having dinner with one of only 100 Senators in the country!! It was awesome!! And think about it, how many Senators go around their state and have dinner with constituents. It was at a local hotel about 20-30 of us showed up.)

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
37. What's even more remarkable
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 05:58 PM
Dec 2017

Is that by those numbers that showed up alone, that should reasonably tell him he's not getting the bang out of his outstate traveling buck.

But Wellstone didn't care about playing to loyal metro constituencies. He acted like he represented ALL of Minnesota.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
47. P.S.....
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 05:47 PM
Dec 2017

Comrade Fatass SUCKS!


Just wanted to make sure we’ve established that foundational element.




😁

Ferrets are Cool

(21,111 posts)
13. But, but, but...
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 12:52 PM
Dec 2017

MSNBC said this was breaking news!! Larry even came off his vaca for this IMPORTANT EARTH SHATTERING news.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
17. Not an interview,,,,,,,
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 01:05 PM
Dec 2017

call it what it is,,,,,, Trump shitting out of his mouth for 30 minutes...
Shame NYT. Guess new owners making their moves, heh?

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
20. I think more than anything the strategy is to let him incriminate himself.
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 01:38 PM
Dec 2017

He can't answer a policy question... he's too stupid.

They don't want to get in the way of a train wreck.

But yes, the standard is abysmally low and the double standard is duly noted.

LisaM

(27,846 posts)
21. There is a double standard, but I think the reporter may have been trying to give him enough rope.
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 02:26 PM
Dec 2017

We'll see, but this may be the kind of interview that comes back to haunt Trump later, because there is so much outright lying and blathering nonsense. In fact, maybe it wasn't really an interview, just a recordation.

Paladin

(28,280 posts)
25. Charlie Pierce says the same thing in his latest column.
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 03:15 PM
Dec 2017

Pierce cuts the NYT reporter some slack for not asking hard-hitting questions, and instead views the interview for the gift that it is: trump is clearly exhibiting mental deterioration of the most profound sort. Not even the Republicans are going to be able to prop him up for much longer. trump's dumbass base may cling to him, but no politician who values their job security will make that mistake.

bhikkhu

(10,725 posts)
42. Pretty much; "never interrupt an opponent when he is making a mistake"
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 10:10 PM
Dec 2017

trump makes numerous mistakes every time he opens his mouth. If he ever faces prosecution it will be based on his own public statements, as much as detective work.

Silver Gaia

(4,548 posts)
30. I agree.
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 03:48 PM
Dec 2017

At first, I was in the pissed off camp, upset that the reporter didn't try to pin him down on anything. Then, I thought about it further and realized that the moment the reporter started challenging him in any way, Trump would have promptly ended the interview. We've seen him do that so many times. This way, the reporter kept him going, feeding out the rope. It was actually a good tactic to use with Trump. He got MUCH MORE material this way, and it speaks for itself. Most of it is word salad, and it's important to see this unrestrained, unedited, and free flowing from the idiot's lips. THAT is really the story. IMHO.

misanthrope

(7,432 posts)
43. As someone who has interviewed defendants, convicts and elected leaders alike
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 11:15 PM
Dec 2017

I couldn't agree more wholeheartedly with you. There's more than one way to conduct an interview. Different personalities respond in different ways so you have to work with what you have.

Sometimes you have make the interviewee comfortable and let them slip into a mistake. Sometimes you have to choose your moments to call out their inconsistencies.

There's a lot more to the context than just bluntly and blindly asking questions and taking whatever comes along or not worrying about making the interviewee defensive.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
46. Double standard indeed
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 10:41 AM
Dec 2017

Other media figures-Pierce, Klein, Hartmann for example- seem to understand the context of this interview. It wasn't a formal sit down pre arranged set up. The reporter caught the Dotard on the fly in an impromptu stream of consciousness style.

At this point it is far more important to let the suspect, , er, the subject, just ramble on. His words are far more telling than the reporters in this case

Context is everything. DUers taught me that, as the other side were the masters of taking things out of context

I am also learning that DUers fall all over themselves and fawn over some twitter post rather than applying some dedicated thought, circumspection, and logic to any matters these days

/jaded/

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
39. NYT did fine on an impromptu interview. See context. Also see Mark Twain:
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 08:17 PM
Dec 2017

"It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt."

NYT helped remove all doubt. The criticism ignores that kind of important factual result.

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