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Yavin4

(35,423 posts)
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 11:52 AM Dec 2017

Couple offer $150K salary to cook, clean and run errands (This is where the tax cut is going.)

Last edited Fri Dec 29, 2017, 12:25 PM - Edit history (1)

These are the jobs that the top 0.01% are creating. Be their servants:

One family in New York City is hiring a live-in "domestic couple" to oversee cooking, cleaning, childcare, and construction at their second home, a 30,000-square-foot townhouse.

The "prominent Upper East Side couple" is looking for a team of two workers to act as "gatekeepers to the principals ensuring all aspects of the home are adequately operating at all times," according to the listing.

Job description:

Managing and providing full-time care of the family's residence
Museum-quality cleaning throughout the home with attention to bedrooms, special surfaces and bathrooms, etc.
Full laundry duties including washing, ironing, steaming, closet organization, managing a list of garments that have been sent out for professional service, etc.
Packing and unpacking clothes for travel
Preparing fresh and healthy breakfast, lunch, and dinner adhering to all dietary restrictions and requests



http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careersandeducation/couple-offer-dollar150k-salary-to-cook-clean-and-run-errands/ar-BBGZYm3?ocid=ientp

--On Edit--I get that some posters think this is a good gig. However, what you're missing is that if these kinds of positions become more common place, then it's bad overall for the economy. These jobs do not develop a skilled labor force. These are unskilled positions that can be easily replaced by anyone which will eventually lead to lower and lower compensation. Our tax dollars are being used for this crap instead of being used to develop a 21st century work force.
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Couple offer $150K salary to cook, clean and run errands (This is where the tax cut is going.) (Original Post) Yavin4 Dec 2017 OP
This couple will be busy. Thats for sure. Nt Grammy23 Dec 2017 #1
Sounds LIke A 24 Hour Per Day Job Me. Dec 2017 #2
2018 versions of Mr. Carson and Mrs. Hughes mnhtnbb Dec 2017 #3
Was thinking the same thing ... Le Gaucher Jan 2018 #35
Very good domestic workers can earn high salaries from the wealthy. MineralMan Dec 2017 #4
Even with no housing costs, $75,000 a piece seems low in NYC. AJT Dec 2017 #9
A lot of very rich people hire help from one of several "schools" that train domestic help. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2017 #23
Yup. I looked into that many years ago, as a possible MineralMan Dec 2017 #24
Not enough. Cheap bastards. NT enough Dec 2017 #5
No thanks. The rich can wipe their own asses. FSogol Dec 2017 #6
our rich are aspiring to Henry VII levels of royalty DBoon Dec 2017 #7
+1 sarcasmo Dec 2017 #33
About $13/hr VMA131Marine Dec 2017 #8
how did you get two burnbaby Dec 2017 #10
They're hiring 'a couple' VMA131Marine Dec 2017 #12
each person is 8 hours per day NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #31
The workload is not that heavy, except when the owners are in residence. MineralMan Dec 2017 #11
This couldn't be Trump's residence could it.... VMA131Marine Dec 2017 #13
I disagree with you so bigly that this is where the tax cuts are going. nm Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #14
Are you suggesting they should be taxed so heavily so as not be able to afford domestic help? Marengo Dec 2017 #15
This is the inevitable result of concentrating wealth into fewer and fewer hands. Yavin4 Dec 2017 #17
Unless I missed it, the article mentions nothing about the tax cut being the primary enabler... Marengo Dec 2017 #18
The connection is this. Yavin4 Dec 2017 #20
Museum quality cleaning...I laughed my ass off ChubbyStar Dec 2017 #16
Not enough, especially for NYC. Tatiana Dec 2017 #19
$50-75K per person in NYC is not a high salary. And they wouldn't be able pnwmom Dec 2017 #21
Sounds pretty good to start, assuming living quarters are decent. In addition to housing they get Hoyt Dec 2017 #29
That's a pretty decent salary, or a pretty awful one, linuxman Dec 2017 #22
I think it said NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #32
Modern day servitude how "civilized " Kimchijeon Dec 2017 #25
I wonder if this is a contract labor position WhiteTara Dec 2017 #26
agreed gopiscrap Dec 2017 #27
Good grief! PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #28
Pffft Takket Dec 2017 #30
To me, the problem isn't the job so much as the absolute tone-deafness of the ad. LisaM Jan 2018 #34

Me.

(35,454 posts)
2. Sounds LIke A 24 Hour Per Day Job
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 11:58 AM
Dec 2017

So they, the employers would be getting a huge bargain and probably cheap not to mention that they'd likely be real pains to work for. Museum quality cleaning sounds like a set up.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
4. Very good domestic workers can earn high salaries from the wealthy.
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 12:00 PM
Dec 2017

Couples are especially in demand. The man generally acts as butler when the rich people are in residence, and may also be the chauffeur and manage other aspects of the property, such as supervising gardeners and other workers.

Often, the woman is the cook, housekeeper, etc.

In exchange for their services, they have nice quarters in which to live, use of a vehicle, and other perks. They're often not called on to perform their service duties unless the property owners are in residence, which is often a rare event. In interim periods. the domestic couple is responsible for keeping the property ready for a visit by the owners at all times.

It can be a good gig, or a terrible one. It all depends on who the owners are, really.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
23. A lot of very rich people hire help from one of several "schools" that train domestic help.
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 04:08 PM
Dec 2017

I was reading with great interest how these "schools" prepare people for high level domestic work. They are usually run by people who have had experience in the duties.
Quite fascinating, actually. They teach not only skills, but attitude, and serve as a placement agency for their graduates.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
24. Yup. I looked into that many years ago, as a possible
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 04:11 PM
Dec 2017

career. You know who makes even more money? Personal assistants to very rich people. That's an even better gig. You have to be very, very resourceful, very capable, and very useful to the person you work for, but if you can, you can do very nicely for yourself.

I went in another direction, though. Oh, well.

DBoon

(22,340 posts)
7. our rich are aspiring to Henry VII levels of royalty
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 12:05 PM
Dec 2017

in our service economy with baroque levels of wealth inequality, royal butt-wiping could become a growth industry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groom_of_the_Stool#Grooms_of_the_Stool_under_Henry_VIII

At least this is one job that can't be offshored

VMA131Marine

(4,136 posts)
8. About $13/hr
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 12:10 PM
Dec 2017

2 people, 50 weeks per year, 7 days per week, 16 hours per day. Presumably this is a 'live-in' situation so there is the value of provided housing to consider on top of the actual pay. The 'employer' is also legally required to pay the employer portion of Social Security and Medicare taxes. Is health insurance or a 401k match included with the job?

This would be great for people who don't want a life or family of their own. On the other hand 30,000 square feet is huge; like 20 times what many people would consider a reasonably sized home. 2 people would spend all their time just cleaning.

Are the owners Russian?

VMA131Marine

(4,136 posts)
12. They're hiring 'a couple'
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 12:17 PM
Dec 2017

So automatically the $150k gets divided between them. I assumed 16 hour days because it's a live-in situation. Whenever the family is around you would need to be available, so basically anytime you're not sleeping.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
11. The workload is not that heavy, except when the owners are in residence.
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 12:15 PM
Dec 2017

Second homes are often left unused for months at a time, but must be maintained so they are ready for occupancy at the whim of the owners. Things get busy when they show up, but the rest of the time, it's not that onerous a job, really.

VMA131Marine

(4,136 posts)
13. This couldn't be Trump's residence could it....
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 12:19 PM
Dec 2017

They're never home....Trump tower is on the upper East Side .....cheap bastard!

Yavin4

(35,423 posts)
17. This is the inevitable result of concentrating wealth into fewer and fewer hands.
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 01:42 PM
Dec 2017

Before the tax cut, the .01% have tons of money to hire armies of domestic help. They didn't a tax cut for this. What that tax cut money should have been used for is infrastructure, and part of infrastructure spending would have gone to upgrading the skill levels of the American work force.

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
18. Unless I missed it, the article mentions nothing about the tax cut being the primary enabler...
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 02:02 PM
Dec 2017

For this position to be offered. Where is the connection?

Yavin4

(35,423 posts)
20. The connection is this.
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 02:22 PM
Dec 2017

Republican tax cuts are sold to the American people as tax the wealthy less, and they will go out here and create new business/jobs/bring factories back to rust belt states/cure cancer, etc. In reality, they will spend the money on petty things like cleaning their property which does not benefit the economy over the long haul, for you are not developing a work force with 21st century skills.

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
16. Museum quality cleaning...I laughed my ass off
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 01:23 PM
Dec 2017

Then I read the packing and unpacking for travel....These people sound clueless and AWFUL.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
19. Not enough, especially for NYC.
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 02:12 PM
Dec 2017

I know a live-in nanny for a fairly wealthy couple that makes 215,000/yr. plus has a vehicle for personal use and running errands.

This would be an ideal situation for a retired couple with no family or children of their own. Or no life, for that matter...

pnwmom

(108,960 posts)
21. $50-75K per person in NYC is not a high salary. And they wouldn't be able
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 02:23 PM
Dec 2017

to earn additional money through part time jobs because they have to be "flexible" in their schedule, working as the owner's needs dictate.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
29. Sounds pretty good to start, assuming living quarters are decent. In addition to housing they get
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 06:37 PM
Dec 2017

insurance. I bet there aren't many comparable jobs like that.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
22. That's a pretty decent salary, or a pretty awful one,
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 02:36 PM
Dec 2017

It all depends on whether or not that's a primary residence where the employer spends most of their time.

3-4 days out of the month? Sure. Can do.

24+ days per month? No way. The list of responsibilities isn't adequate for the pay, at least in NYC. And to be split two ways on top of it all.

Never mind, it says second home. Might not be so bad.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
32. I think it said
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 06:44 PM
Dec 2017

that the home was a second home for the couple looking to do the hiring. So, I would imagine that it's not 24+ days per month most of the time. They probably already have another couple (or two) at their primary home.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,817 posts)
28. Good grief!
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 05:59 PM
Dec 2017

Just keeping a 30,000 square foot home clean is full time work for two people. Maybe three.

Childcare. That's another full time job.

The preparing of meals is another full time job for one. Laundry duties could be part time. Maybe. Or the laundry person could do the errand running.

In any case, it looks to me as if they're trying to get two people to do the work of at least four people, more like six.

Takket

(21,529 posts)
30. Pffft
Fri Dec 29, 2017, 06:40 PM
Dec 2017

I'm sure they need the servant to pack because with the tax cut they will probably be taking 8 or 9 trips to Paris instead of the usual 5 or 6. Meanwhile us middle class types get jack squat.

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
34. To me, the problem isn't the job so much as the absolute tone-deafness of the ad.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 01:54 PM
Jan 2018

The owners sound picky, unreasonable, and completely out of touch with reality. It could even be a great job and I wouldn't want to take it because who can really say if a house has been kept at "museum quality"? There are all sorts of red flags in this ad that set anyone who takes this job up for failure.

If the owners sounded reasonable, nice, and accommodating (and had a place that was maybe 1/3 the size!) then it might be a reasonable job for the right candidates, but there's nothing about this ad that would want me to be within 100 yards of the people who placed it.

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