"Active shooter" - we are having yet another of our entirely preventable episodes of gun violence.

[Voltaire2]

The phrase bothers me. But really it fits. The rest of the gun nuts with their arsenals are just "inactive shooters".

[ProudMNDemocrat]

1. Wayne LaPierre must feel so proud........

That Americans can amass an arsenal of guns and ammunition to go human target practicing, all thanks to the 2nd Amendment.

We don's just have a mental health issue problem in this country. We have an "all too easy acess to guns" problem in this country by a lobby concerned about profits over people.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

2. Lotsa champagne cork-poppin' at NRA HQ before midnight tonight!

They're high-fiving over the sales they'll be getting over the latest batch of NRA-sponsored murders.

[Igel]

3. The expression's getting over-used.

It was useful, to describe somebody who was roaming and looking for victims, typically innocent, so that anybody he runs across might be his next kill.

Now it's used for anybody who has shot somebody and hasn't put the gun down. You go in to kill the bastard who raped you and the police show up before you get away, you're an active shooter instead of a gunman holed up in a house by yourself.

News should be propositional in nature first, and emotive second. Emote based on information, not just based on the desire of somebody else that you emote in a given way.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

4. Sounds like it was a "domestic." Taking toxic masculinity and the safety of women more seriously

would help, too.

[ClarendonDem]

5. How was this entirely preventable

I'm not seeing that.

[Crunchy Frog]

6. Not surprised that you're not seeing it.

I think most of the rest of us can.

[ClarendonDem]

7. Enlighten me

How was this entirely preventable, other than through a complete ban on firearms, which is both unconstitutional and unsupported by the vast majority of Americans?

Edited to add a link re: a poll addressing the issue - http://news.gallup.com/poll/220595/support-stricter-gun-laws-edges.aspx

[Crunchy Frog]

8. Enlighten yourself. Or not.

I know that there's nothing I could say to influence your views, and won't even try going there.

[ClarendonDem]

11. My views aren't set in stone

And I enjoy debating the meaning of the Constitution, but that said I'll admit that I believe the founding fathers intended the 2d Amendment to protect an individual right to own a firearm. So I'd argue that my views are supported by the Constitution itself, but if you have contrary authority I'm more than happy to discuss.

[Voltaire2]

9. Australia Great Britain Canada all managed to deal with their gun problem.

yes it wouldn't be 100% effective. Best not to try then, right?

[ClarendonDem]

10. It is best not to attempt to enact any law that is blatantly unconstitutional

Like a handgun ban. So yes, we should avoid trying to enact a law that is opposed by the vast majority of Americans and violates the Constitution.

[Initech]

12. But Wayne will tell you it's not the time to talk about it.

58 dead and 500 wounded in Vegas? Not the time to talk about it.

50 dead in a nightclub in Orlando? Not the time to talk about it.

15 dead in an office Christmas party in San Bernardino? Not the time to talk about it.

26 dead - 19 of them children - in a school in Connecticut? Not the time to talk about it.

So when is the right time to talk about it? Ever, Wayne?