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https://www.gq.com/story/michael-wolff-white-house-trump-accessEliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)without 400 citations of proof for each comment ...
Remember,. when you are telling the truth about a con, you have to have endless proof, not so much if it is about a dem.
hurple
(1,306 posts)Seems like the following conditions apply:
For an R, no number of citations of proof is enough, they're ALL lying.
For a D, seems to be that you only need 7 (apparently that is the magic number, questionable, even anonymous, simple accusations, without any corroborative proof of any kind. Time to get rid of that worthless bum!
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)We are in the hideous state we are in, in part, because portions of the media did not have a backbone, forgot their professional qualifications and went for reality show ratings/post hits/social media fame.
We all are concerned about our job security. Understood.
The absolute nature of genuine journalism, though, is to be devoted, driven and dedicated to finding truth as well as fact. Many failed. Or much worse, eagerly chose the game over substance. And we have the Cretin and his loonie goons, plus the entire Congressional Republican thugs to deal with now.
Wolff has put in print everything (and more) that the world has realized about this immature ogre-creature who is fing with our lives and fate hourly.
I applaud him.
kentuck
(111,089 posts)Locrian
(4,522 posts)Yes the system is broken and it doesn't support the truth.
Yes there will be consequences.
Yes it will be a tough road to follow.
Tough luck. Time to step up and do the right thing.
It's getting to the point where the "risk" of not doing something is worse that suffering the consequences.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)piss off their bosses because they were the one who got CNN or ABC banned from the WH press briefings. It is the media outlets themselves who need institutional bravery to green light the reporters to actually do their jobs.
We do not have a healthy press, with some exceptions. The freelance reporters are the ones who will have to step up because the corporate MSM will not!
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)The writer makes it clear what he thinks of Michael Wolff, but:
But Wolff didnt do that. He did not engage in some endless bullshit access tango. No, Wolff actually USED his access, and extended zero courtesy to Trump on the process, and its going to pay off for him not just from a book sales standpoint, but from a real journalistic impact. I am utterly sick to death of hearing anonymous reports about people inside the White House concerned about the madman currently in charge of everything. These people dont deserve the courtesy of discretion. They dont deserve to dictate the terms of coverage to people. They deserve to be torched.
Cha
(297,191 posts)Exactly!
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)Nobody questioned him because they all mistook him for an insider. I don't know anything about Michael Wolff except he must have the ability to get along like a chameleon.
He made people forget that he was a reporter who's writing a book about their boss. He was probably careful about taping their remarks with an almost-hidden recorder. (I don't know how he did it, I'm just guessing.) In the very beginning immediately after the election, Trump said "Go ahead, knock yourself out" and that's all it took. Everyone dropped their guard and told him everything.
Lucky for us, because now we get to read all the dirt.
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)write a puff piece. The rest, shall we say, is history...
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)It is changing, but the media as a whole doesn't have a great track record covering Trump.
kcr
(15,315 posts)I would take 1000 Wolffs over every ingratiating kiss ass access journalist any day. I know which kind are more likely to get the truth.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)kentuck
(111,089 posts)"Blocked by Content Security Policy"
Or is it only Firefox??
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)emmadoggy
(2,142 posts)kentuck
(111,089 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)Ligyron
(7,632 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)gossip all year because they didn't "torch their access" that took years for them to build. No excuses for their real ethical failures, but I disagree with faulting them for not being journalistic versions of kamikaze pilots.
Wolff did something different to get something different that only one person could do. "I took up something like a semipermanent seat on a couch in the West Wing," "something quite close to an actual fly on the walll..." And then he reported on that. And now he'll rake in a pack of money.
As for Drew Magary, he seems like a decent enough guy, but there'll be plenty of competition for his position with GQ any time he cares to show the kind of career-suicide courage he's talking about. How about some good insider reporting on Conde Nast, Drew? Any institutional biases that get served up to 120 million purchasers (not readers) around the planet?
mobeau69
(11,143 posts)shanny
(6,709 posts)the press, and one with which they are complicit. There should not be cozy relationships, effing Correspondents' Dinners, cocktail circuits etc etc etc. The relationship should be adversarial, not buddy buddy. Remember when Chuck Todd said that determining the truth / calling out lies was not his job? Yeah, it damn well is. Saying otherwise is to adopt the Fux Gnus standard (we report, you decide--as if your opinion has any kind of bearing on reality). Same thing is true of the attempt to give "both sides of the story" and giving equal weight to each side in a 97-3% split (climate change).
"Preserving access" as opposed to practicing journalism has been going on for decades, and our ill-informed public shows it.
kcr
(15,315 posts)Wolff is being smeared by many of those same people trying to preserve that access. It's self-serving on their part. They don't like being shown how they fall short.
democrank
(11,094 posts)In many cases, protecting access is more important to some reporters than telling the whole truth.
Magary's mention of Maggie Haberman's gossip "breadcrumbs" and the press pool "playing along with Sarah Sanders" rang so true to me. I'd like to see reporters ditch their politeness and treat this administration like the dangerous threat they are.
niyad
(113,284 posts)KG
(28,751 posts)on them on a daily basis is another.
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)But Wolff didnt do that. He did not engage in some endless bullshit access tango. No, Wolff actually USED his access, and extended zero courtesy to Trump on the process, and its going to pay off for him not just from a book sales standpoint, but from a real journalistic impact. I am utterly sick to death of hearing anonymous reports about people inside the White House concerned about the madman currently in charge of everything. These people dont deserve the courtesy of discretion. They dont deserve to dictate the terms of coverage to people. They deserve to be torched.
Trump ascended into power in part because he relied on other people being too nice. Its fun to rampage through the china shop when the china shop owner is standing over there being like, SIR, that is not how we do things here! If Trump refuses to abide by the standard (and now useless) norms of the presidencyshit, if he doesn't even KNOW themwhy should ANYONE in the press adhere to needless norms of their own? They shouldnt, and it appears that Michael Wolff was one of the few people to instinctively grasp that, and I hope more White House insiders follow his lead. Sometimes you need a rat to catch a rat.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Here
deserve to dictate the terms of coverage to people. They deserve to be torched.
And here
Trump ascended into power in part because he relied on other people being too nice. Its fun to rampage through the china shop when the china shop owner is standing over there being like, SIR, that is not how we do things here!
Is there something I didnt get to see?
Thx
mantis49
(813 posts)but I assumed it was my ad blocker causing it. (doing its job)
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Tried unblock and it just sat there when I hit download
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)"Trump ascended into power in part because he relied on other people being too nice. Its fun to rampage through the china shop when the china shop owner is standing over there being like, SIR, that is not how we do things here! If Trump refuses to abide by the standard (and now useless) norms of the presidencyshit, if he doesn't even KNOW themwhy should ANYONE in the press adhere to needless norms of their own? They shouldnt, and it appears that Michael Wolff was one of the few people to instinctively grasp that, and I hope more White House insiders follow his lead. Sometimes you need a rat to catch a rat."
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)RIP Peter, Phil
MariaCSR
(642 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)This may ignite wildfire in a similar vein as Thomas Paine's Common Sense.