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kentuck

(115,374 posts)
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 06:42 PM Jan 2018

Seriously, How Dumb is Trump? by Robert Reich

https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/posts/1821276477884940

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Trump doesn’t think he’s stupid. “Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart,” he tweeted yesterday. He earlier recounted “I went to an Ivy League college … I did very well. I’m a very intelligent person.”

Wrong. One of his professors at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School of Business and Finance purportedly said that he was “the dumbest goddamn student I ever had.”

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He’s always been a conman. He conned hundreds of young people and their parents into paying to attend his near worthless Trump University. He conned banks into lending him more money even after he repeatedly failed to pay them. He conned contractors to work for them and then stiffed them.

Granted, during he hasn’t always been a great conman. Had he been, his cons would have paid off.

By his own account, in 1976, when Trump was starting his career, he was worth about $200 million, much of it from his father. Today he says he’s worth some $8 billion. If he’d just put the original $200 million into an index fund and reinvested the dividends, he’d be worth $12 billion today.
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Seriously, How Dumb is Trump? by Robert Reich (Original Post) kentuck Jan 2018 OP
Reich wrote that he has the "uncanny ability BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #1
That's what cons do. murielm99 Jan 2018 #2
BINGO D_Master81 Jan 2018 #13
only stupid people Skittles Jan 2018 #4
my answer mnmoderatedem Jan 2018 #3
That's 2naSalit Jan 2018 #15
Point taken.. Permanut Jan 2018 #26
He once asked Obama to release his college transcripts... IggleDuer Jan 2018 #5
Where are his tax returns? Cha Jan 2018 #20
Phony Donald Trump has only two tallents BlueAZure Jan 2018 #6
not really. he basically is a thief. pansypoo53219 Jan 2018 #14
Great comments below, as well. lindysalsagal Jan 2018 #7
I can remember being a kid in the 80s askyagerz Jan 2018 #8
He really insults bdamomma Jan 2018 #9
Getting into an Ivy and surviving isn't all that hard IF..... paleotn Jan 2018 #10
You are saying Ivy League college professors are bribed to give good grades? former9thward Jan 2018 #17
Not 'give good grades' at the professor level, but to get in, stay in, and 'graduate', period? mr_lebowski Jan 2018 #18
This. Dumb rich kids are given 'gentleman's Cs' and passed along from one basic class Nay Jan 2018 #22
I would love to see some actual evidence professors are letting themselves former9thward Jan 2018 #24
No, no former9thward Jan 2018 #23
I am not saying that ... the person you responded to said something like that ... mr_lebowski Jan 2018 #25
No bribery necessary... paleotn Jan 2018 #21
My discussion above only has anecdotes as well. I was in college when it would have Nay Jan 2018 #28
Remember the 1997 movie "Traveller" thegoose Jan 2018 #11
"near worthless"? Really? trof Jan 2018 #12
+1 2naSalit Jan 2018 #16
SAD! You LIE! Check the reviews online!!! mr_lebowski Jan 2018 #19
Dang, I think I want to go there.. n/t Permanut Jan 2018 #27
i'd say, he's pretty fucking dumb. spanone Jan 2018 #29

BigmanPigman

(55,031 posts)
1. Reich wrote that he has the "uncanny ability
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 06:52 PM
Jan 2018

to spot and use a person's weakness". Con man extraordinaire!

murielm99

(32,934 posts)
2. That's what cons do.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 06:58 PM
Jan 2018

Also, narcissists are good at it. They may be dumb about everything else, and uneducated. But they know how to exploit people.

D_Master81

(2,495 posts)
13. BINGO
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 08:52 PM
Jan 2018

had a friend that I've since had a falling out w/ but he was extremely narcissistic and even said as much. Said he could always find ways to "work" people and situations. sounds a lot like trump.

IggleDuer

(980 posts)
5. He once asked Obama to release his college transcripts...
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 07:41 PM
Jan 2018

... show us yours. Prove what you say!

askyagerz

(901 posts)
8. I can remember being a kid in the 80s
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 07:55 PM
Jan 2018

watching him in interviews and thinking that this guy is dumb

bdamomma

(69,503 posts)
9. He really insults
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 07:59 PM
Jan 2018

my intelligence. I really hate how desperate everyone is to protect this POS. One thing his stupidity is not going to wear me down. That is what he wants to do wear people down.

paleotn

(22,075 posts)
10. Getting into an Ivy and surviving isn't all that hard IF.....
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 08:25 PM
Jan 2018

you have lots of money backing you. Case in point....W Bush. That list is long so yes, money can buy you a fancy degree. Lucky for him, when he got out he went to work for daddy and then himself. That and his big bankroll once pops kick off kept him from ending up as some 3rd tier con man somewhere, in and out of prison, due to his innate stupidity.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
17. You are saying Ivy League college professors are bribed to give good grades?
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 11:08 PM
Jan 2018

That is a major charge. Where is the evidence this has happened?

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
18. Not 'give good grades' at the professor level, but to get in, stay in, and 'graduate', period?
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 11:21 PM
Jan 2018

Two very different things, with different 'authorities' in charge of the decisions ... just sayin' ...

Nay

(12,051 posts)
22. This. Dumb rich kids are given 'gentleman's Cs' and passed along from one basic class
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 01:37 PM
Jan 2018

to another. They pay other students to produce term papers and even take their tests (in, say, a large Econ 201 class). It happened all the time back when Dipshit was in school (I was in college a few years after him and saw the process in a state school).

Professors are urged to pass rich kids because the school wants/needs endowments. Regular professors who wouldn't play this game were often sidelined. Professors whom the school really needed (think math geniuses, Nobel Prize winners, noted researchers, literary bigwigs, etc., were NEVER given the rich dumbshit students).

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
24. I would love to see some actual evidence professors are letting themselves
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 02:19 PM
Jan 2018

be used that way. Very serious charges. I wonder why there has been no media repoorts exposing it?

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
23. No, no
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 02:16 PM
Jan 2018

Professors give grades -- not some anonymous "different authorities". You are saying professors at Ivy Leagues are bribed -- or something worse -- by "rich students". I would like to see a particle of evidence behind that charge.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
25. I am not saying that ... the person you responded to said something like that ...
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 03:21 PM
Jan 2018

But never mentioned 'grades', they said "get in, and survive" ... so to me, you gleaned a grade-fixing accusation was being leveled against profs ... when that wasn't actually said.

The profs who hand out grades are not the people at the school who do admissions, or decide to allow people to graduate.

As someone else mentioned above, there are other mechanisms really rich people can avail themselves of that will let them 'graduate' ... w/o professors themselves actually being bribed to give them unfair grades. Administrators always making sure they always get into the class w/the known-easiest teacher of a given subject, for example. They can also 'bend the rules' a bit with regards to graduation requirements, or let them take 'incompletes' in subjects 6 weeks into the courses they're failing when others only get 3 weeks normally, stuff like that.

Nobody is saying rich, but total slacking students ... are gonna graduate Summa Cum Laud or anything like that. Just 'get in, and survive to graduation'.

paleotn

(22,075 posts)
21. No bribery necessary...
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 08:19 AM
Jan 2018

Once in, it's simply a matter of one's major and the courses one takes. My evidence is anecdotal. Trump and W are prime examples.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
28. My discussion above only has anecdotes as well. I was in college when it would have
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 08:57 PM
Jan 2018

been a bit easier to fudge stuff -- Trump and W went to college back then, too.

When I was in school, "business" degrees were for the real dummies anyway. Lots of rich kids back then got business degrees. It's not like they were graduating with physics or chem degrees, ffs.

 

thegoose

(3,115 posts)
11. Remember the 1997 movie "Traveller"
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 08:35 PM
Jan 2018

With the late, great Bill Paxton about a bunch of Irish nomads going around North Carolina and fleecing people? Hell, even 1973's "Paper Moon." Remember the bill switches in the dime stores? All you need to know is how to "read" people and then con them ten ways to Sunday. It doesn't take a like, smart brain.

That's what Dumpster has done his entire life. His New York real estate career peaked in the virulently corrupt 80s and 90s. There's no question that he's been carrying water (and laundering money) for Russia for decades.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
19. SAD! You LIE! Check the reviews online!!!
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 11:41 PM
Jan 2018

They say it had 99% satisfaction! Better than HARVARD!!! Much better than that hippy Berkeley that's for sure!

Some examples:
ChristineJones1967 (10/10) raved:"Best money our family ever spent. The university's excellent instructors (who were handpicked by Mr Trump!!!) were amazing, and taught us SO MUCH, and now we don't have to go to our horrible 9-5 jobs anymore, we're our own bosses, and every month, we're making OVER $9000!!!"

MiDuNgH0 (10/10) said:"The University was a Wise Investment. Mr. Trumps lessons were INVALUABLE, now my daughter doesn't have to sew clothes in a terrible factory, in fact no-one tells her what to do, and her last monthly check almost $5000!"

They go ON AND ON like that, just look at the website!

People say it was a tremendous success, and it helped many, many people. Bigly. The Fake Media won't tell you that but look at the reviews at the website. They're tremendous! I'm very proud, very very proud. I mean ... Mr. Trump should be ... very proud!

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