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Sparkly

(24,167 posts)
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 12:10 AM Jan 2018

Amid all the bravos at the Golden Globes tonight, there is one name conspicuously missing.

The Golden Globes celebrated women tonight.

Women celebrities wore black in solidarity. All lauded the roles of powerful women they played. There were words of righteous anger, there were heartfelt tears, there were "right-on's!" We're not gonna take it anymore!

Various women were lauded, from Rosa Parks to Margaret Atwood to Recy Taylor to a slew of fictitious women.

This, when we just saw the first woman become the nominee of one of the two major political parties... A woman who fought back sexism her whole life, who endured ongoing harassment as we all did, who broke all the 'norms' of first-lady as an accomplished woman in her own right (who didn't particularly care about her hairstyle or clothes or cookie recipes, thank you very much).

She took on health care when nobody else would touch it. She fought for children's rights, for minority rights, and yes for women's rights, worldwide. She became the most qualified candidate in modern history (some say equaled by George HW Bush, but she fought battles he couldn't have imagined).

Seeing her defeated by a monstrosity of misogyny, hostility, dishonesty, racism, homophobia, xenophobia, megalomania and abject disqualification for the presidency was a SHOCK.

So many people underestimated the power of sexism, its insidious persuasion and the depths of its effects, too many people were sure she would win (a narrative pushed by some opponents).

The shock *prompted* the 1/21/17 women's march in Washington. Women who'd spoken out against Trump were magnified to a level that couldn't be ignored.

Here we are, shy of a year later, preaching about courage, milestones, and women's progress! Lots of women at the Golden Globes, in glittering black gowns, surgically altered to look 1/3 their age, oh so proud of their sisterhood -- and none would DARE say the name of that one woman.

The one who didn't get makeovers, facelifts, tummy-tucks or liposuction. The one who fought tooth and nail to accomplish what she did from the time she was a little girl. The one who excelled on her own brilliance, and her own courage to work for causes she believed in. Sorry, she looked frumpy, and was never cool. She's not a thing you feel really cutting-edge, in-the-know admiring aloud at parties.

Just like the word "FEMINIST," her name was made into a pejorative by a strong backlash early on. Once a step of progress was accomplished, the reaction was swift -- "Feminist" became an uncool word to avoid. "I'm all for women's rights, but I wouldn't say I'm a feminist."

Now it's "I'm all for women's rights, but I wouldn't say.... HER name."

We can't move forward if we keeping sweeping every step we make under the rug, because it's immediately culturally shut away in the past, no longer relevant, no longer welcome, hip, or worthy of mentioning.

Can't we just say her name proudly, as the first woman to come as far as she did?

I'll start: Hillary Clinton!!

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Amid all the bravos at the Golden Globes tonight, there is one name conspicuously missing. (Original Post) Sparkly Jan 2018 OP
And you knew I would join you: Hillary Clinton Stinky The Clown Jan 2018 #1
Hear, hear!!! EffieBlack Jan 2018 #2
I think you meant Her, Her! 😉 MLAA Jan 2018 #39
Yes shenmue Jan 2018 #3
K&R. Thank you for this post lunamagica Jan 2018 #4
I didn't watch the Golden Globes, so was not aware of that slap in the face to Clinton maddiemom Jan 2018 #41
What slap in the face? I watched it.Surely, you don't mean that because Susan Sarandon was a present Alice11111 Jan 2018 #53
Uh....I'm responding to the actual original post. "Amid...ONE NAME CONSPICUOUSLY MISSING." maddiemom Jan 2018 #58
No, not really.Why would Hillary be mentioned at the Globes Alice11111 Jan 2018 #68
Did you READ the post that I was reponding to? It's self-explanatory. maddiemom Jan 2018 #69
Whatever. Not a personal attack, just discussion, but I don't care. Alice11111 Jan 2018 #70
Hillary Clinton! And thank you Sparkly! UtahLib Jan 2018 #5
Hillary Clinton mahannah Jan 2018 #6
I think it was decided in advance DURHAM D Jan 2018 #7
Yes. This was not a political night. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #18
Who said near the end that the HFP was not afraid to elect a woman president? SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2018 #8
Was that Francis McDormand? Justice Jan 2018 #15
It was Frances McDormand who said that. geardaddy Jan 2018 #37
Thanks. She said much in a short period of time. SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2018 #48
HFP? progressoid Jan 2018 #49
Hollywood Foreign Press. nolabear Jan 2018 #59
Im still with h...Hillary Clinton. Guilded Lilly Jan 2018 #9
I proudly say...... CatMor Jan 2018 #10
Hillary Clinton! Hekate Jan 2018 #11
I'm proud to say MontanaMama Jan 2018 #12
I am also. triron Jan 2018 #16
yes!!! samnsara Jan 2018 #13
Frances McDormand did, indirectly frazzled Jan 2018 #14
yeah! she did and that was a part i heard but didn't certainot Jan 2018 #19
That would have taken away from the message of this event frazzled Jan 2018 #24
you're right certainot Jan 2018 #26
Excellent point. I agree. Silver Gaia Jan 2018 #61
Yes! spicysista Jan 2018 #17
Seth Meyers also made a joke.... IcyPeas Jan 2018 #20
Hillary is Our Hero! dlk Jan 2018 #21
Very Proudly, Sparkly! Cha Jan 2018 #22
ImWithHer oasis Jan 2018 #23
As a wound that's never healed opens again in my heart . . . NBachers Jan 2018 #25
Great post. The Golden Globes posturing did not impress me. 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2018 #27
And I'm right with you: Hillary Rodham Clinton...one of my heroes iluvtennis Jan 2018 #28
Thank you. lamp_shade Jan 2018 #29
I'm StillWithHer DesertRat Jan 2018 #30
Im with Hillary! Lonestarblue Jan 2018 #31
Yes, Hillary Clinton should have been there!!!!! onecent Jan 2018 #32
And she didn't throw a hissy fit because she was not front and center, Old Terp Jan 2018 #33
K&R... spanone Jan 2018 #34
Always... Lucinda Jan 2018 #35
K&R Scurrilous Jan 2018 #36
Minngal marieo1 Jan 2018 #38
Hillary Clinton! lillypaddle Jan 2018 #40
Kicked and recced. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #42
HILLARY!!!! HILLARY!!!! HILLARY!!!! niyad Jan 2018 #43
Hillary Clinton!!! pandr32 Jan 2018 #44
Hillary Clinton radical noodle Jan 2018 #45
Hillary Clinton is one of my feminist icons ismnotwasm Jan 2018 #46
Hillary Clinton. The first/the best Rene Jan 2018 #47
Thank you Hillary for all you have done, and will continue to do!! Ninga Jan 2018 #50
You are right. Hillary Clinton mainstreetonce Jan 2018 #51
Thank you, Sparkly! BlueMTexpat Jan 2018 #52
Yes. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2018 #54
YES! NastyRiffraff Jan 2018 #55
Hillary Rodham Clinton! demigoddess Jan 2018 #56
Hillary Clinton! Aristus Jan 2018 #57
Hillary Rodham Clinton! nolabear Jan 2018 #60
Hillary has worked to help people everywhere while always getting unfair undeserved criticism. lancelyons Jan 2018 #62
I almost names my daughter after her. xmas74 Jan 2018 #63
I'M STILL WITH HER!!! onetexan Jan 2018 #64
I would contribute this. Firebrand Gary Jan 2018 #65
May I say how personally gratifying the responses here are to me - Sparkly Jan 2018 #66
I'm with Her. fleabiscuit Jan 2018 #67

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
41. I didn't watch the Golden Globes, so was not aware of that slap in the face to Clinton
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 12:46 PM
Jan 2018

I had a hard time digesting this, this morning. I wonder if there was a deliberate decision of the women "stars," or if the fault lies elsewhere.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
53. What slap in the face? I watched it.Surely, you don't mean that because Susan Sarandon was a present
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 03:14 PM
Jan 2018

She has also been around for an eternity, like Shirley McClain and 101 year old Kirk Douglas, who both took the stage. The room was filled with Hillary supportors. What am I missing?

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
58. Uh....I'm responding to the actual original post. "Amid...ONE NAME CONSPICUOUSLY MISSING."
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 06:00 PM
Jan 2018

You don't think that it constitutes a "slap in the face"?

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
68. No, not really.Why would Hillary be mentioned at the Globes
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:08 PM
Jan 2018

Plus, so many people, especially Repubs, but even Dems on this site, then bring up Bill. As far as I am concerned, Bill did his time, and was pretty severely punished for his affairs, however disgusting, w consenting adults.

Still, the Hill Haters can't let it go, so there is always the risk of spoiling the moment, especially when the GG were addressing #metoo. Guillibrand called for reopening Bill Clinton's investigation. I don't think Hillary wants to stir these vipers up.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
69. Did you READ the post that I was reponding to? It's self-explanatory.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:30 PM
Jan 2018

I was just putting words to the prevailing sentiment. I give up; no need to reply.

DURHAM D

(32,634 posts)
7. I think it was decided in advance
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 12:34 AM
Jan 2018

to keep the focus on the issues of MeToo and TimesUp.

I could not help but notice how many of the women speaking out on the Red Carpet and during the awards were Hillary supporters. Susan Sarandon is the exception.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
14. Frances McDormand did, indirectly
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 01:00 AM
Jan 2018

After thanking the Foreign Press (in her typically back-handed, sardonic way), she said: “At least they elected a woman president. I’m just saying.”

That was definitely a shout out to the nation that failed to elect Hillary Clinton and chose a completely unqualified, vulgar, and ignorant male instead. Even the goofy Foreign Press Association had the sense to elect a dignified, qualified woman.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
19. yeah! she did and that was a part i heard but didn't
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 01:25 AM
Jan 2018

think about it in the sense of being the only reference. that really sucks, altho i wouldn't blame anyone in particular, they barely had time to thank their spouses
you're right, it's too bad there weren't more

americans need to remember the asshole in the white house is there because of talk radio and the kremlin

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
24. That would have taken away from the message of this event
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 02:19 AM
Jan 2018

Which was purposefully focused singularly on issues of harassment, equal opportunity, and respect for women ... not just in the entertainment field, but as Oprah said, for domestic workers, farm workers, in academia and medicine and everywhere, both here and around the world.

The past year and a quarter has been focused inexorably, 24-7, on the past election and this administration and its misdeeds. Tonight was a night to listen to women’s voices. The absence of any overt reference to our political situation was intentional. Time’s up: the voices of women regarding safety, and freedom, and opportunity are being heard and the changes will come. It was a message I’m sure Hillary Clinton applauded. And it was a huge relief to have the name of Donald Trump not even mentioned once. It was the right thing to do. And I bet he hated not getting the spotlight.

Tomorrow, we’ll hear plenty about him.


spicysista

(1,663 posts)
17. Yes!
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 01:12 AM
Jan 2018

Hillary Clinton! Thanks for making the road a little easier for the next woman who chooses to run. Your service to this country is admirable. You're a true hero.

IcyPeas

(22,065 posts)
20. Seth Meyers also made a joke....
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 01:31 AM
Jan 2018

About the 3 words Trump would hate: Hollywood.Foreign.Press. He said the only thing Trump would hate more would be Hillary.Mexican.Salad association.

dlk

(11,697 posts)
21. Hillary is Our Hero!
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 01:31 AM
Jan 2018

Oprah's speech was about sexual harassment and abuse, and yes, Hillary has been fighting for women her entire career.

Cha

(299,188 posts)
22. Very Proudly, Sparkly!
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 01:43 AM
Jan 2018

That would have been so Appropriate if they had celebrated Hillary.

And, she's working behind the scenes for us.

Lonestarblue

(10,497 posts)
31. Im with Hillary!
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 10:26 AM
Jan 2018

We came so close, and I think would have won without Comey’s letter and the abdication of the mainstream media, which chose to ignore Trump’s failings and chose to magnify every tiny issue about Clinton—including the laughable notion that she was not physically fit to be president because she had walking pneumonia! I was hoping to see in my lifetime the destruction of the notion that any man, no matter how incompetent, is better than the smartest woman. I’m not sure we’re there yet, even with all the new focus on women. I’m remembering a man-on-the street interview done by one of the news outlets during the campaign, and a 40-something woman said she could not vote for Clinton because only men could handle the job of president. So now we have a child in office.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
38. Minngal
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 12:24 PM
Jan 2018

Oh, I am so glad you posted this - it needs to be seen all over the world. I have long admired and appreciated every single thing Hillary Clinton has done for all of humanity!! She never singled anyone out into categories (i.e. male, female, black, white, gay, straight, rich, poor, and I'm sure I've missed a few)!! Instead she put the emphasis on the important things she needed to fight for and she did, health care, equality for all, children's rights, women's rights, etc. She is also diplomatic enough to keep us out of a major nuclear world war. Something our current administration seems to be trying very much to get us into!! Bravo's to Hillary. She is a great and intelligent lady!!

niyad

(114,907 posts)
43. HILLARY!!!! HILLARY!!!! HILLARY!!!!
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 01:47 PM
Jan 2018

Thank you for this excellent post. I caught a few minutes of the monologue, but not the program. The omission was upsetting, to say the very least.

ismnotwasm

(42,078 posts)
46. Hillary Clinton is one of my feminist icons
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 01:51 PM
Jan 2018

I want to live a long, long life to see what history has to say about this time.

Ninga

(8,302 posts)
50. Thank you Hillary for all you have done, and will continue to do!!
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 02:30 PM
Jan 2018

She is still a force to be reckoned with...

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
51. You are right. Hillary Clinton
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 02:45 PM
Jan 2018

Someone should have brought her as their guest.

She could host the next one.

I also think Michelle Obama should have been there.

BlueMTexpat

(15,387 posts)
52. Thank you, Sparkly!
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 02:59 PM
Jan 2018

And I am very proud to join you: Hillary Clinton!



And I won't stop feeling this way.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
54. Yes.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 03:14 PM
Jan 2018

I hate how the fake history spread by the androcentric repuke/media brotherhood took on a life of its own, never questioned never challenged for the blatant stew of confabulations that it is.

It is sooooo easy to demonize a woman; sexism is insidious in such a way that even the most pro-woman among us can still be subconsciously steered by it. An entire world can practice it, and believe their God(s) included it in the world They created.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
55. YES!
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 04:58 PM
Jan 2018

Hillary opened doors for women and girls, way before she held any office; way before her presidential runs.

HILLARY CLINTON!

demigoddess

(6,650 posts)
56. Hillary Rodham Clinton!
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 05:56 PM
Jan 2018

they didn't want her to use her maiden name

they didn't want a woman in the White House

They donn't want a woman to beat a man in the presidential race.

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
62. Hillary has worked to help people everywhere while always getting unfair undeserved criticism.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 07:00 PM
Jan 2018

its been that way for 30 years.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
65. I would contribute this.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 09:35 PM
Jan 2018

First, let's also take this opportunity to notice that all the monikers that have spent the last 24 hour derailing the potentiality of Oprah running for POTUS, are silent and unsupportive of this OP. We know who you are!

Second, I've worked on HRC's campaign, twice! In over ten states in two different elections, she's my hero and my champaign, unequivocally. At this moment I'd offer this, Hillary is not absent from the discussion, just delayed-which is needed, in my opinion. I love Hillary and we do need to have that conversation, that said, in order to cast the widest net possible, we should move forward.

Sparkly

(24,167 posts)
66. May I say how personally gratifying the responses here are to me -
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 11:44 PM
Jan 2018

- as a feminist who came of age in the 1970s.

I am so glad to see some energy behind the idea of embracing women who carried the torch and took us another mile forward, rather than dismissing them and pretending we ourselves made it happen, and then placing ourselves apart -- either above it, or beyond it.

This is about HRC herself, but it's also about the whole battle. Instead of cheering every crack in the glass ceiling, we somehow step back, establish distance, and enjoy the results while pretending we alone made it happen.

We fold back in and retreat, because it's easier, individually. We back away, without a word of celebration for our most recent forbearer(s), afraid that the backlash might rub off, pretending we got where we are all on our own, and enjoying the fantasy that we've created something never confronted before.

Yay, women! Yay, equality! Yay, fighting abuse, sexism, unfairness! But the struggle is NOT new. Why do we distance ourselves at every step, with "But that's not ME," always above it or beyond it.

The "above it" version of "But that's not ME" says, "I just wouldn't go THAT far."

- Those suffragettes who got themselves arrested? "I understand; I agree women should have the right to vote. But I would never go against the law. That's not ME."

- Those women who want to keep their jobs when the GIs return? "I understand, but I'm not so selfish I'd deprive a hero, coming home to head a family, his income so I can have pin money.""That's not ME."(And if you have a problem with that, take a pill)

- Those militant feminists fighting for an Equal Rights Amendment? "I think we should have equal rights, but I wouldn't go as far as demonstrating, acting mannish or hating men." "That's not ME."

Since then, "That's not me" has shifted its meaning from "I wouldn't go THAT far" to "Oh, I'm past all that," as though nothing had happened in-between, and as though the playing field has been level all along.

We're post-sexist in the same way we're post-racist. "No bias!! It's just that one particular woman."

SHE IS THAT WOMAN!!!
Why on earth would she not be celebrated?!?

Anyway, I haven't posted in a long while, and want to say thanks for restoring my faith in DU.

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