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Revisiting .. should we give Trump his lousy wall to secure DACA (Original Post) Le Gaucher Jan 2018 OP
First DACA Me. Jan 2018 #1
Exactly right. Orrex Jan 2018 #4
We do not negotiate with terrorists like Trump nm AmericanActivist Jan 2018 #2
normally I would agree lapfog_1 Jan 2018 #3
No janterry Jan 2018 #5
Get DACA. dawg day Jan 2018 #6
Hell No, Let Mexico pay for it............ Old Vet Jan 2018 #7
Think: What Would Donald Do? Girard442 Jan 2018 #8
they are talking about border security now AlexSFCA Jan 2018 #9
NO way... Dem_4_Life Jan 2018 #10
We will talk wall after DACA and after we see Trump's tax returns. Doodley Jan 2018 #11
He can have his fucking wall as soon as he gets Mexico to pay for it. Stinky The Clown Jan 2018 #12
Just holding Trump to his word. It's how it should be done BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #15
I have no issue with it. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #13
NO NO NO NO NO NO and HELL NO. themaguffin Jan 2018 #14
NO! panader0 Jan 2018 #16
trump lies. That should give you the answer to your question. shraby Jan 2018 #17
I agree Jake Stern Jan 2018 #18

Orrex

(63,334 posts)
4. Exactly right.
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 12:54 PM
Jan 2018

It's like telling a child "I'll give you this candy if you stop screaming," and then being surprised when they eat the candy and keep screaming.

That orange idiot racist fuckhead is all about his own instant gratification and aggrandizement. His word isn't worth shit, and only a fool would accept his guarantee on anything.

lapfog_1

(29,254 posts)
3. normally I would agree
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 12:54 PM
Jan 2018

but compromising with the far right only pushes the nation more to the right.

When he rescinded the executive order on Dreamers he said that Congress should fix it with legislation.

A clean bill (a term he didn't understand yesterday) is what he basically called for... and that is what should be passed. And it would pass except for Ryan and McConnell being terrified of the "Freedom Caucus" (Authoritarian Caucus).

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
6. Get DACA.
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 12:58 PM
Jan 2018

DACA would have to come first.

"We can talk about the Wall after that."

The GOP does this all the time. "Susan Collins, vote for our tax bill, and then we'll talk about what you want!"

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
9. they are talking about border security now
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 01:05 PM
Jan 2018

the same stuff that was already proposed before and failed as part of comprehensive immigration reform. It’s mostly technology but also fence (not wall), cbp wants transparent barrier - of course trump will call it a wall. Yes, they should approve it because dems had voted for it before. It’s clear now after reading the book that the media needs to start translating trump’s language of grotesque and 4 y.o. vocabulary to appropriate standards.Instead, they keep sensasiolazing every dumb word he said. It is what it is and will only get worse as he is not willing to seek treatment for his condition.

Dem_4_Life

(1,765 posts)
10. NO way...
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 01:10 PM
Jan 2018

Also you should definitely go to Beto O'Rourke's Facebook page (I can't link it at the moment) and watch the video from this weekend where he visited the National Butterfly Center.

https://www.nationalbutterflycenter.org/about-nbc/maps-directions/9-national-butterfly-center/258-border-wall-information

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
13. I have no issue with it.
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 01:29 PM
Jan 2018

As long as DACA is not attached to the start of the wall. Dirty little secret. The wall is a joke. It can't be built. Period. Not the way they imagine. We should be gleeful over such a deal.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
17. trump lies. That should give you the answer to your question.
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 01:58 PM
Jan 2018

He can't be trusted . You can trust a dog not to eat a biscuit if you tell him no a lot more than you can trust trump to keep his word.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
18. I agree
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 02:24 PM
Jan 2018

Truth is, even if Trump were to renege, that wall will be bogged down with logistics, planning and litigation by landowners, environmental groups and so on for YEARS.

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