Can a test for dementia discover a pathology like malignant narcissism?

[kentuck]

It good to know there is no dementia but what about other mental and psychiatric problems?

Does the test tell us anything about the character of Donald Trump?

The tests do not resolve the abnormal behavior and actions of Donald Trump.

The tests have little to do with the behaviors that concern the America people.

[highplainsdem]

1. No. And for that matter MOCA can miss early stages of dementia, according to what I read

yesterday while googling this. Trump could also have been coached on the test, if given even a few hours' warning.

[Chasstev365]

2. No; and Dr. Howard Dean all but said that on Lawrence O'Donnell's show last night!

[atreides1]

3. Not a definitive assessment of cognitive functions

https://www.yahoo.com/news/3-things-know-cognitive-test-235524320.html

“It’s a brief exam that assesses general cognitive function, but it lacks sensitivity to subtle cognitive decline,” according to Dr. David Knopman, chairman of the Alzheimer’s Association Medical and Scientific Advisory Council and a professor of neurology at the Mayo Clinic College of Medicine.

Knopman called the test “reliable and valid,” noting that it’s been around about 10 years, but said it doesn’t tell us everything.


“Because it’s a brief examination, it is not considered a definitive assessment of cognitive function,” Knopman told HuffPost. “More detailed neuropsychological testing should be performed if there are suspicions that a person has cognitive dysfunction despite their store on the MoCA.”

[Igel]

6. And yet what's being claimed

isn't "subtle cognitive decline."

"It doesn't show subtle cognitive decline" is being taken to mean "it overlooks moderate to moderately-severe dementia".

There are ways of testing for various kinds of dementia years before the first symptoms become obvious, but they're complicated, not always accurate, and, again, test for dementia years before the first symptoms become obvious. In other words, they help explain some small, almost trivial changes. Not the huge deviances from acceptability with Trump.

[get the red out]

4. I can't imagine it would

I take my Mom to a neurologist for her dementia and the tests they give her wouldn't show any kind of psychiatric problem, she suffers from depression and also sees a psychiatrist for that (as do I).

[Orrex]

5. In the old days they would gut the beast and read the entrails

Just saying.