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EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 07:43 PM Jan 2018

Why isn't the "Hillary should have left Bill" crowd demanding Melania leave the Adulterer-in-Chief?

After all, if Bill having adulterous but consensual sex with a young intern should have been enough for Hillary to blow up her 25-year marriage, certainly the Donald's constant whoring around during his 12-year marriage - including unprotected sex with porn "stars" - should be a dealbreaker for Melania.

Right?

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Why isn't the "Hillary should have left Bill" crowd demanding Melania leave the Adulterer-in-Chief? (Original Post) EffieBlack Jan 2018 OP
Because theyre all full of sh!t. bullimiami Jan 2018 #1
You have a point. OnDoutside Jan 2018 #2
Recommended. H2O Man Jan 2018 #3
Maybe because people expected a feminist to leave marlakay Jan 2018 #4
You have no idea what their contract is. DURHAM D Jan 2018 #6
An essential element of feminism is making your own choices without others telling you what to do EffieBlack Jan 2018 #13
You are right. Very simple. A marriage and its ups/downs are for the parties to sort out. erronis Jan 2018 #52
what a bunch of malarkey tenderfoot Jan 2018 #14
So- no standards for anyone except feminists, LOL. Transparent garbage. And Melania claims to be a bettyellen Jan 2018 #16
Thank you EffieBlack Jan 2018 #40
There is no point in having standards if youre not going to apply them. WTF?!? bettyellen Jan 2018 #49
Simply because it is not Hillary or a Clinton. yallerdawg Jan 2018 #5
trump is not even any good at sex Miigwech Jan 2018 #7
Ugh! The thought of him having sex with anybody just makes me smirkymonkey Jan 2018 #20
Amen, Smirkymonkey Ohiogal Jan 2018 #33
I know Ohiogal! smirkymonkey Jan 2018 #36
Yes, also it makes me want to hurl! Ohiogal Jan 2018 #43
But he has money to pay big bucks for it. Cha Jan 2018 #29
OK lordsummerisle Jan 2018 #8
And bringing about the End Times not fooled Jan 2018 #38
Let's see what she does once Trump is out of office. jalan48 Jan 2018 #9
Birds of a feather underpants Jan 2018 #10
Because he wasn't in the Oval Office nini Jan 2018 #11
And Trump hasn't admitted to it TexasBushwhacker Jan 2018 #47
Because in Hillary's case an unholy cabal of marybourg Jan 2018 #12
Hypocrisy defines them treestar Jan 2018 #15
Hypocrisy created them. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2018 #25
It's OK if you are Republican. Don't you know that? madinmaryland Jan 2018 #17
Nobody cares? Cracklin Charlie Jan 2018 #18
They are 100% hypocrites with everything. BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #19
Melania is what they expect women to be. Progressive dog Jan 2018 #21
One has a non disclosure agreement worth millions. Historic NY Jan 2018 #22
redumbliCONs play by a different set of rules. democratisphere Jan 2018 #23
The MAGATs I have seen on line say it is different AllyCat Jan 2018 #24
So the other accusations they love bringing up, Paula, Juanita, Gennifer, no longer matter EffieBlack Jan 2018 #41
See how easily they can deflect that? AllyCat Jan 2018 #50
Still hypocrites, they claim it is immoral treestar Jan 2018 #53
I asked that on quora lol TalenaGor Jan 2018 #26
Damn it! Why can't I rec this multiple times.... paleotn Jan 2018 #27
She's a "former" sex worker and is being paid for her services underthematrix Jan 2018 #28
Kinda amazing how someone with virtually zero modeling income.... Major Nikon Jan 2018 #54
Thank you underthematrix Jan 2018 #56
Good question mcar Jan 2018 #30
Because... Sophiegirl Jan 2018 #31
Damn good question---with an obvious answer: they're fucking hypocrites. (nt) Paladin Jan 2018 #32
Oh, yes kskiska Jan 2018 #34
Simple. Trump is Republican. Morals and honor are irrelevant when applied to Republicans. Kablooie Jan 2018 #35
They should, and should also work up impeachment proceedings arising from this ... Shoonra Jan 2018 #37
the difference is 1200 radio stations attacking the clintons but making excuses for trump certainot Jan 2018 #39
I'm thinking the meme is set as seed by mostly unseen oligarchical interests. yonder Jan 2018 #57
and the kremlin may have been seeding it for about 10 years, when certainot Jan 2018 #59
Just one in a long list of rhetorical questions LiberalLovinLug Jan 2018 #42
Because IOKIFYAR* Still In Wisconsin Jan 2018 #44
She'll leave the shithole Liberalagogo Jan 2018 #45
Because they know the difference customerserviceguy Jan 2018 #46
Each person is an universe... IluvPitties Jan 2018 #48
1) maybe they are--have you checked?; shanny Jan 2018 #51
She;s having her own affair(s). lark Jan 2018 #55
Comparing Hillary to Melania is unfair lunatica Jan 2018 #58

marlakay

(13,282 posts)
4. Maybe because people expected a feminist to leave
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 07:48 PM
Jan 2018

Because Hillary has high standards and many thought she would be stronger alone. I am one of those, it was her choice but i think she could have gone further alone.

I don’t nor do many people hold Melania to those standards, she knew she was a trophy wife and probably expected him to stray.

I would have left either man but its not my marriage.

DURHAM D

(33,054 posts)
6. You have no idea what their contract is.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 07:50 PM
Jan 2018

Nor do I.

Her/their choice, not mine or yours.

imo She has extremely high standards, and followed them.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
13. An essential element of feminism is making your own choices without others telling you what to do
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 07:59 PM
Jan 2018

Marriages are very complicated and no one knows what goes on in anyone else's relationship. That's why I have a real aversion to hearing other people talk about what Hillary should or shouldn't have done - no one but Hillary herself is any position to know what is best for her.

erronis

(23,882 posts)
52. You are right. Very simple. A marriage and its ups/downs are for the parties to sort out.
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 05:28 PM
Jan 2018
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
16. So- no standards for anyone except feminists, LOL. Transparent garbage. And Melania claims to be a
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 08:15 PM
Jan 2018

feminist, so there is that, too....

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
49. There is no point in having standards if youre not going to apply them. WTF?!?
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 11:12 PM
Jan 2018

What a joke!

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
5. Simply because it is not Hillary or a Clinton.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 07:49 PM
Jan 2018

Those "higher standards" don't apply, even to the present First Family.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
20. Ugh! The thought of him having sex with anybody just makes me
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 08:33 PM
Jan 2018

want to vomit.

What some women will do for money. I really don't understand it. Some things are just so sickening that no amount of money can make one lower their standards.

lordsummerisle

(4,653 posts)
8. OK
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 07:53 PM
Jan 2018

so why then isn't the "Religious Right" leaving Trump for the same reasons? Oh wait, I just remembered...supporting anti-abortion causes means that you will put up with *anything* else...

not fooled

(6,680 posts)
38. And bringing about the End Times
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 09:57 PM
Jan 2018

Don't forget that punce and the rest of the religious nutjobs are trying to bring about the end of the world, and see dump as the means to the end (literally)!

Such fine people!

nini

(16,830 posts)
11. Because he wasn't in the Oval Office
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 07:56 PM
Jan 2018

That's what they'll say. That he defiled the oval office and office of the presidency.

45 wasn't president yet so that will help with their hypocrisy.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,204 posts)
47. And Trump hasn't admitted to it
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 10:23 PM
Jan 2018

He will continue to deny it no matter what evidence is presented.

marybourg

(13,640 posts)
12. Because in Hillary's case an unholy cabal of
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 07:57 PM
Jan 2018

RW and Russian villains started the meme. Why some progressive women eventually went along is beyond my ability to explain. In the current case, the villains have no interest in starting the meme, the rest of us don't give a sh*t and don't expect principled behavior from the tRump family anyway.

If there's a lesson anywhere in this, it's to stop allowing the RW and the Ruskies to manipulate our emotions.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
15. Hypocrisy defines them
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 08:13 PM
Jan 2018

Any time they mention the Clintons from now on, they ought to be called out on their hypocrisy.

Historic NY

(40,037 posts)
22. One has a non disclosure agreement worth millions.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 08:38 PM
Jan 2018

the other worked it out, after kicking him in the ass. Twice

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
23. redumbliCONs play by a different set of rules.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 08:41 PM
Jan 2018

They lie and cheat about everything; perfectly acceptable.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
41. So the other accusations they love bringing up, Paula, Juanita, Gennifer, no longer matter
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 10:02 PM
Jan 2018

because they were all pre-White House.

Good to know. Thanks.

AllyCat

(18,842 posts)
50. See how easily they can deflect that?
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 11:54 PM
Jan 2018

It was all about national security, not family values.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
53. Still hypocrites, they claim it is immoral
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 05:50 PM
Jan 2018

to commit adultery, that should be any time.

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
27. Damn it! Why can't I rec this multiple times....
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 08:57 PM
Jan 2018

We need a multi-rec button.

You are spot freaking on!

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
54. Kinda amazing how someone with virtually zero modeling income....
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 05:51 PM
Jan 2018

can afford an apartment in Manhattan while traveling back and forth to Europe to illegally renew a tourist visa.

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
31. Because...
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 09:11 PM
Jan 2018

She is bought and paid for. And, she signed an agreement to stay with him for a certain amount of time. Which is probably close to ending.

Kablooie

(19,107 posts)
35. Simple. Trump is Republican. Morals and honor are irrelevant when applied to Republicans.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 09:32 PM
Jan 2018

Only Democrats are required to live honorably and morally.

And that's the truth.

Shoonra

(602 posts)
37. They should, and should also work up impeachment proceedings arising from this ...
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 09:44 PM
Jan 2018

Bill Clinton's affair with Monica was brief, transient, and possibly the result of extreme proximity to temptation.

But Trump's affair with Stormy involved searching out a porn star who resembled his daughter, a very prolonged relationship, and a lot of money.

Psychologists (and others) will be writing books about Trump's affair (and contrasting it to Bill and Monica) for decades to come.

In the meantime, we might wonder if Trump is currently catting around with someone who won't slap his hand away.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
39. the difference is 1200 radio stations attacking the clintons but making excuses for trump
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 09:58 PM
Jan 2018

that's the whole story

yonder

(10,293 posts)
57. I'm thinking the meme is set as seed by mostly unseen oligarchical interests.
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 06:50 PM
Jan 2018

With a little watering by those 1200 AM radio stations, it blossoms into an item for the news cycle, then harvested as a successful crop by the oligarchy. Prune or plow under as needed, then repeat. What can go wrong other than a loss of democracy?

We're needing different farmers, seed (of truth) and water (of life). We'll take care of the harvesting.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
59. and the kremlin may have been seeding it for about 10 years, when
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 08:50 PM
Jan 2018

rove lost the white house.

manafort was campaign director for mccain and limbaugh wouldn't support mccain until he picked palin.

palin was the talk radio candidate and got the trump teabag base

maybe she was the russia candidate too

LiberalLovinLug

(14,689 posts)
42. Just one in a long list of rhetorical questions
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 10:05 PM
Jan 2018

Which can all be answered by the same answer:

One is a Democrat
And one is a Republican

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
46. Because they know the difference
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 10:19 PM
Jan 2018

between a smart woman like Hillary, and a bimbo like Melania. You have lower expectations for the latter.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
51. 1) maybe they are--have you checked?;
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 11:57 PM
Jan 2018

1.5a) who's in the "Hillary should have left Bill" crowd anyway?; 1.5b) why would we listen to them whoever they are?; and 2) maybe they have no respect for Melania and therefore don't expect anything

lark

(26,081 posts)
55. She;s having her own affair(s).
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 06:27 PM
Jan 2018

She's a lying, plagiarizing, porn actress, illegal immigrant, gold digger. She has no morals, and is doing nsda ss FLOTUS. Most useless and lazy and no good first lady (OK, she's not a lady at all) ever.

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