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Sanders Blames Democrats For Looming Government Shutdown (Original Post) George II Jan 2018 OP
Helpful hint angrychair Jan 2018 #1
That was done deliberately melman Jan 2018 #2
Yep jalan48 Jan 2018 #3
The great big "Sarah Sanders" tweet graphic wasn't a clear enough hint for you? EffieBlack Jan 2018 #5
The one you don't see unless you open the thread? melman Jan 2018 #7
with you - thought the same thing...Bernie? Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2018 #11
Why assume Bernie? treestar Jan 2018 #13
Why Assume Bernie? Me. Jan 2018 #15
Among some here there is more hate for Bernie than Sarah. aikoaiko Jan 2018 #23
I Don't Honestly Think That's So Me. Jan 2018 #25
"Carping" ... excellent word. Couldn't be any more perfect. NurseJackie Jan 2018 #29
HiYa Me. Jan 2018 #35
.... ehrnst Jan 2018 #44
Care to back up that trashing of those here on DU with some data? ehrnst Jan 2018 #42
And DU is an online forum chuck full of opinions. aikoaiko Jan 2018 #45
So it's a bias, then. ehrnst Jan 2018 #49
Why play this game? melman Jan 2018 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author aikoaiko Jan 2018 #21
Because this is DU. Iggo Jan 2018 #22
Yep. shanny Jan 2018 #6
yep the poster of the op just wanted to make sure questionseverything Jan 2018 #26
How is the OP a threat to "unity"? NurseJackie Jan 2018 #67
was this one done deliberately also? It was LBN still_one Jan 2018 #76
How ridiculous melman Jan 2018 #78
you are ridiculous. Both headlines are ambiguous until you look at the content. Telling me that still_one Jan 2018 #81
I thought it was... Wwcd Jan 2018 #53
+1 Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2018 #68
Sanders is full of shit. Iliyah Jan 2018 #4
I think the same. NurseJackie Jan 2018 #73
Sanders bashing Dems? What a fucking surprise. BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #8
Sanders is a liar Gothmog Jan 2018 #9
I totally agree! NurseJackie Jan 2018 #71
Yep Gothmog Jan 2018 #72
I just read her full comments, totally Trumpian mcar Jan 2018 #10
Sanders thinks the economy is booming treestar Jan 2018 #12
Well, she is getting a paycheck irisblue Jan 2018 #14
You can edit the OP to say "Not Bernie" Sanders ..... L. Coyote Jan 2018 #16
K & R Wwcd Jan 2018 #17
Why is this fellow blaming the Democrats ? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2018 #18
I still miss watching him play. Bleacher Creature Jan 2018 #37
When referring to "Sanders" maybe we should use "S. H. Sanders" Yavin4 Jan 2018 #20
Okay, that's enough. Iggo Jan 2018 #24
How about a little music: George II Jan 2018 #27
could you edit post to say sarah sanders, thanks juxtaposed Jan 2018 #28
Yes because someone alerted thinking it was about Bernie BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #30
Geez, they alerted before opening the post!? Wwcd Jan 2018 #58
I was on a jury for it BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #61
Understood. However I have seen (not here as much) more Wwcd Jan 2018 #63
Somebody alerted on this thread. I voted "it clearly does not break the rule." When asked my reason StevieM Jan 2018 #31
Same here, and that's not the only one. Rhiannon12866 Jan 2018 #32
I was on that jury, and voted and thought the same ms liberty Jan 2018 #36
Well, I guess we mostly all voted the same way, marybourg Jan 2018 #40
i have a bridge for sale questionseverything Jan 2018 #82
These tiresome bait and switch posts are intended to be provocative for the sake of attention. nt procon Jan 2018 #33
I'm not a Bernie fan, but I concur that this is really misleading. NT Bleacher Creature Jan 2018 #34
Sarah Sanders Not Bernie Sanders maryallen Jan 2018 #38
OMG! Who cares? NurseJackie Jan 2018 #39
Referring to the press secretary by using her actual name lapucelle Jan 2018 #74
Ha! I saw that! NurseJackie Jan 2018 #75
What error? Sanders is her name. treestar Jan 2018 #41
Is clicking on the link and reading it prior to firing off a rant or alert on it ehrnst Jan 2018 #43
It's a form of clickbait. By default Sanders is Bernie, and SHS is to be identified as such. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #47
I think that people should click on a link before firing off a rant about it. ehrnst Jan 2018 #48
Sarah Sanders is in the news more than the other guy anyway. Wwcd Jan 2018 #55
I thought DU had a soft rule that SHS is supposed to be identified. Sanders implies Bernie Sanders. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #46
I stand with George. But then, I also read the post before reacting. Wwcd Jan 2018 #57
I sat on it for a couple of days and clicked on it, knowing it was clickbait, which it was. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #80
A soft rule? mcar Jan 2018 #69
Its like a whisper. The whisper rule. Wwcd Jan 2018 #77
Hard enough for newbies to figure out the lay of the land with written rules..... BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #70
Seems like there's enough room in the subject line to write "Sarah" before "Sanders" oberliner Jan 2018 #50
There is, but some DUers think its fun to provoke. Their methods are from Karl Roves playbook. Bluepinky Jan 2018 #52
Thank you for this,George II. So glad you brought this to DU's attention. democrank Jan 2018 #51
They only reason for being annoyed by this treestar Jan 2018 #54
Is the "confusion" being expressed actually "disappointment"? Anything's possible, I suppose. NurseJackie Jan 2018 #56
Why is this thread about bernie at all? ITS NOT ABOUT HIM! Wwcd Jan 2018 #62
With a phrase like "blames Democrats" in the title, it should be self-evident... NurseJackie Jan 2018 #65
Exactly. Wwcd Jan 2018 #66
this thread should read bdamomma Jan 2018 #59
Shes so strange ismnotwasm Jan 2018 #60
Her last name Sanders has become more commonly used as she has become familiar Wwcd Jan 2018 #64
Oh, I thought you were talking Bernie. He goes after Democrats so often. That was funny. Anny61 Jan 2018 #79

treestar

(82,383 posts)
13. Why assume Bernie?
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 11:41 AM
Jan 2018

We know there are two people in the news with that name.

And Sarah is now the more likely Sanders to be in the news.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
25. I Don't Honestly Think That's So
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 07:19 PM
Jan 2018

But there is a feeling/reflection of not wanting to put up with carping from anyone

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
29. "Carping" ... excellent word. Couldn't be any more perfect.
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 07:40 PM
Jan 2018
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/carping

carping
[kahr-ping]

adjective
1. characterized by fussy or petulant faultfinding; querulous:
carping criticism.

noun
2. petty faultfinding.


 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
42. Care to back up that trashing of those here on DU with some data?
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 08:40 PM
Jan 2018

I mean, we are the party of facts, right?

aikoaiko

(34,178 posts)
45. And DU is an online forum chuck full of opinions.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:29 PM
Jan 2018

It's just my opinion. If its not true it won't resonate with anyone.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
49. So it's a bias, then.
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 08:41 AM
Jan 2018

You didn't state it like it was an opinion. You might want to be clearer when you trash DU next time.

Response to treestar (Reply #13)

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
67. How is the OP a threat to "unity"?
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:36 PM
Jan 2018

OMG! So much hand-wringing! It's difficult for me to believe that the feelings and sensitivities of mature adults are so fragile that an ambiguous OP subject-line would cause such consternation.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
78. How ridiculous
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 01:31 AM
Jan 2018

The difference between that one and this one doesn't need to be explained. You know what it it, I know what it is, everyone knows what it is. So why play this game? Seriously, what is the point?

still_one

(92,304 posts)
81. you are ridiculous. Both headlines are ambiguous until you look at the content. Telling me that
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 04:33 AM
Jan 2018

I knew what it was is wrong until I read the content, and that isn't the only OP which just refers to a common last name without identifying the first name.

Whenever there could be confusion, the title of an OP should try and avoid that so there is no ambiguity



Proud Liberal Dem

(24,422 posts)
68. +1
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:38 PM
Jan 2018

I feel like I always need to do a double-take on a lot of these things because, unfortunately, Bernie is not always Democrats' best friend and goes "off the reservation" even though he caucuses with us.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
12. Sanders thinks the economy is booming
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 11:39 AM
Jan 2018

and that it is because of the Orange Maniac? Wait, I don't think she thinks.

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
37. I still miss watching him play.
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 08:07 PM
Jan 2018

So elusive. I still have yet to see a player make defensive players miss like he did.

BumRushDaShow

(129,258 posts)
30. Yes because someone alerted thinking it was about Bernie
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 07:43 PM
Jan 2018


(I hate that the idjit press secretary has the same last name)
 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
58. Geez, they alerted before opening the post!?
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 11:19 AM
Jan 2018

Umm, anyone following news lately knows that bernie wouldn't make this statement in the first place, but Sarah Sanders did.
So why would they think its about him at all?

BumRushDaShow

(129,258 posts)
61. I was on a jury for it
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 11:25 AM
Jan 2018

And like a few others have posted recently, I have vowed from now on to call Sarah Sanders - "Sarah SLANDERS".

I think it's because before we ended up with her as the official SPOX, her name just wasn't bandied about around here except mostly as her being Sarah Huckabee (or Huckleberry... ) without her married name.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
63. Understood. However I have seen (not here as much) more
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 12:05 PM
Jan 2018

..headers referring to her as 'Sanders', perhaps as she became more well known, thus shortening her name to one word.

Nonetheless, her statement is typical deflection by Trump admin that pretty much drives the ire & division in the country.
Because without keeping that divided line holding firm, trump would have nothing & no base other than imaginary media bots & meme pushers.

Which is why he had such a scant showing for his inauguration.
Imaginary bots & trolls from Russia & the Ukraine can't physically attend a public gathering.
Cuz most are not real people.

Thus the need for people like Sarah Sanders to feed the divide.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
31. Somebody alerted on this thread. I voted "it clearly does not break the rule." When asked my reason
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 07:44 PM
Jan 2018

I said "they seem to have an honest misunderstanding of the post."

I don't believe that the OP was being deliberately deceptive. But I think that he or she should edit their post to be more clear who they are talking about.

ms liberty

(8,590 posts)
36. I was on that jury, and voted and thought the same
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 08:06 PM
Jan 2018

Then afterwards I saw the thread and saw who was the author of the OP...

marybourg

(12,633 posts)
40. Well, I guess we mostly all voted the same way,
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 09:16 PM
Jan 2018

since the post is still here. And I agree that the post would best be edited for clarity, since I'm sure the OP did not do this purposely as click-bait.

maryallen

(2,172 posts)
38. Sarah Sanders Not Bernie Sanders
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 08:10 PM
Jan 2018

It looks as if George 2 did not read the Twitter. It clearly stated it was Sarah Sanders that sent this message.

There is no appropriate alert selection for this type error.

lapucelle

(18,296 posts)
74. Referring to the press secretary by using her actual name
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 09:35 PM
Jan 2018

may be a type of "alertable error" because the senator from Vermont is the "default" name-holder.

If you don't believe it, check your list of "soft rules".

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
43. Is clicking on the link and reading it prior to firing off a rant or alert on it
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 08:42 PM
Jan 2018

too difficult?

TheBlackAdder

(28,210 posts)
47. It's a form of clickbait. By default Sanders is Bernie, and SHS is to be identified as such.
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 12:35 AM
Jan 2018

People just browsing the OP titles in the forum might get the impression that BS is coming down against the Democrats. After all, it plays into certain people's narratives. It's a given SHS would blame the Democrats, so there is no surprise in that.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
48. I think that people should click on a link before firing off a rant about it.
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 08:40 AM
Jan 2018

I don't think that's a lot to ask.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
55. Sarah Sanders is in the news more than the other guy anyway.
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 11:01 AM
Jan 2018

Why would anyone think it wasn't her


TheBlackAdder

(28,210 posts)
46. I thought DU had a soft rule that SHS is supposed to be identified. Sanders implies Bernie Sanders.
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 12:32 AM
Jan 2018

.

Of course Sarah Sanders blames the Democrats. She's not going to blame Republicans.

That's what makes the OP's title even more duplicitous, giving the GD thread topic reader the impression it's Bernie.

.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
57. I stand with George. But then, I also read the post before reacting.
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 11:09 AM
Jan 2018


How many people have the name Sanders in the USA?
Could be anybody.
Why do people just assume its about bernie? He would never say something like this.
Would he?

Sara gets much more press than bernie lately anyway, seems normal to think the headline is about her.

TheBlackAdder

(28,210 posts)
80. I sat on it for a couple of days and clicked on it, knowing it was clickbait, which it was.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 02:44 AM
Jan 2018

There's been an OP history that tries to cast Bernie Sanders in whatever bad light possible, even if that is just the subliminal OP title that people see on the GD page and don't click on it. Sort of like running Google ads, knowing that one will be read, but a thousand people will see the ad title and not click on it. So, if you word the ad properly, you get the message across without incurring a click charge.

It's a given SHS would back up Trump, so the OP was really a waste anyway.

And, no. The defacto is Bernie Sanders here. This was discussed in multiple other OPs over the past year.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
77. Its like a whisper. The whisper rule.
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 09:57 PM
Jan 2018

I know for a fact that I have NEVER been given the benefit of a "soft rule" with any of my posts.

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
70. Hard enough for newbies to figure out the lay of the land with written rules.....
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 03:28 PM
Jan 2018

....now there's "soft" rules?

FWIW, I had to make sure the full scope and context, so I opened and read the thread. BS has scolded Dems often enough....I wouldn't have been able to determine which Sanders just from the headline. But if one is assuming this OP is about BS, they could have had some precedence for thinking so.....seems like many Bernie supporters assumed this was about BS.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
50. Seems like there's enough room in the subject line to write "Sarah" before "Sanders"
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 08:43 AM
Jan 2018

Or even Huckabee.

democrank

(11,098 posts)
51. Thank you for this,George II. So glad you brought this to DU's attention.
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 08:54 AM
Jan 2018

Trump's Press Secretary, Bernie Sanders, is really an awful person. How could he blame Democrats
instead of....say....Mitch McConnell for the shutdown?

Oh, wait....

treestar

(82,383 posts)
54. They only reason for being annoyed by this
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 11:00 AM
Jan 2018

is the knowledge that Bernie might have blamed Democrats. If you didn't think he ever would do that, you'd know it was Sarah Fuckabee.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
62. Why is this thread about bernie at all? ITS NOT ABOUT HIM!
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 11:29 AM
Jan 2018

Its about the typical shitty statement made against the Dems from the trump spokesmodel Sarah Sanders.

Bernie's barely in the news anymore.

Everythings not always about bernie sanders.
Geez.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
65. With a phrase like "blames Democrats" in the title, it should be self-evident...
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 12:24 PM
Jan 2018

With a phrase like "blames Democrats" in the title, it should be self-evident which Sanders is making news.

And you know... even if it's not evident to some people, or even if some people automatically assume the opposite... I have to be honest here, it's really NOT all that hard for those individuals to READ beyond the subject line (assuming they're curious enough) to find out for sure.

ismnotwasm

(41,998 posts)
60. Shes so strange
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 11:24 AM
Jan 2018

I suppose, given what she has to work with, and the apparent expectation of ignoring any inconvenient truth she actually does a good job, but, damn this is surreal. She simply does not care what she says.

On edit, reading the thread, it’s not hard to figure out which Sanders is doing what.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
64. Her last name Sanders has become more commonly used as she has become familiar
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 12:18 PM
Jan 2018

In the Twitter world, which is used by every media & business, musician & politician etc., the # of characters is limited pr tweet, Sanders is far less characters than Huckabee-Sanders.

I could come up with a few other descript words to shorten her legal name, but she wouldn't like them much.

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